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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 previews

how far were you in Xenoblade?? You don't have to wait much for cool downs further into the game with higher level and more artes available.

So I barely got into Xenoblade at all, hated the combat so much that I never played more than a few hours in spite of literally everything else being amazing. Got further in XCX, up to the point where you first get your skell license. After that though I couldn't keep going and stopped.

This is a series that I badly, badly want to like. Hoping it finally clicks with this one.
 

Wamb0wneD

Member
And it fits perfect.


XB2:
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Ofc you conveniently chose the MC picture with the mockup inflated boots to make him look more goofy. Nice one.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Ofc you conveniently chose the MC picture with the mockup inflated boots to make him look more goofy. Nice one.

This is really a non-issue. The "real" boots and in general the MC is still as awful. The inflated boots just makes him more goofy. The real one is actually a serious design. I think that's even worse.

 

Waji

Member
What is excatly wrong with the Xenoblade 2 models. I get they're full tilt anime with dumb eyes, but how many other JRPGs have similar art styles.

Why is it such a problem here and not for any other games. Considering that the Xenoseries is being pushed like Final Fantasy I'm glad that every game goes for a different look and art style.
Nothing is wrong.Different standards and degrees of judgment.

Especially when the writing and directing actually do 95% of the work. People like to focus on the wrong things.
Praise the "tastes" of the mighty.
 
In-game doesn't look as bad, but I want to take those goofy pants off. First thing imma do is run in my underwear. It's the pants which destroy the design, TBH, otherwise it's just typical anime, which isn't good, but serviceable.
 

ozfunghi

Member

Yup. Don't know why the youtuber who uploaded that, is claiming it's a DS game, but this was the reveal trailer before the name change i believe. This trailer did not get a lot of attention back then, it seemed rushed and rough. But i could already tell it would be great. Something that the Wii sorely needed.

And please port X to Switch and release a sequel to tie the knots.

Just release a story DLC with an actual main quest that progresses throughout the world, keep the environments, the characters, the creatures, the mechanics... just create a new story quest, something like a prequel, maybe a scouting recon mission of a few people, that have to search for a suitable place to settle. The game would be 80% complete, based on X.
 

Wamb0wneD

Member
Yes the narrative is flowing strong
Oh well, waiting for date and LET here

Yeah, I find it just annoying that yet another thread is derailed by this shit. If the OT is going the same way I'll contact mods for the first time I'm here.

Make a thread to complain about it and stay there FFS.

This is really a non-issue. The "real" boots and in general the MC is still as awful. The inflated boots just makes him more goofy. The real one is actually a serious design. I think that's even worse.

That's exactly what I said though? If people find it awful ok, no need to make him look more ridiculous by posting mockups and act like they are the concept art. Oh and also everyone seems to forget that there is no reason to believe you can't change the freaking gear later on anyway.

It's such a fucking non-issue and yet almost every XB2 related thread get's derailed with it.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Oh and also everyone seems to forget that there is no reason to believe you can't change the freaking gear later on anyway.

Actually there is a pretty good reason to believe this. Hopefully that "cosmetics" shop theory is true, because the character menus don't inspire confidence.
 

LordKano

Member
Actually there is a pretty good reason to believe this. Hopefully that "cosmetics" shop theory is true, because the character menus don't inspire confidence.

You think that because there are artworks in the menu they wouldn't let you change costumes ? Because I played a bazilions JRPGs that had the same kind of stuff and you could still change your clothes.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Who cares how the characters look when the framerate is fucked?


Because character design (which I don't dislike) is there to stay while frame rate issues will very likely be partially solved before release (looking good at past work done by Monolith, at Nintendo work in general, at it not being in golden phase and at it not having yet a firm release date)?
 

Lilo_D

Member
=. = you guys are really debating something useless
The real concern here is the lack of a release date and that's all
 

KLoWn

Member
while frame rate issues will very likely be partially solved before release (looking good at past work done by Monolith, at Nintendo work in general, at it not being in golden phase and at it not having yet a firm release date)?
Both XC and XCX had extremely dodgy framerate, and on top of that horrendous pop-ins, so no, their past work doesn't instill any confidence in me.

Those two things were pretty much the only major issues I had with the games though, so I'd like to experience at least one Xenoblade game devoid of any of that shit.
 

LordKano

Member
Both XC and XCX had extremely dodgy framerate, and on top of that horrendous pop-ins, so no, their past work doesn't instill any confidence in me.

Those two things were pretty much the only major issues I had with the games though, so I'd like to experience at least one Xenoblade game devoid of any of that shit.

Uh, XC and XCX framerates were fine ? Some drops in heavy battles but nothing major.
 

KLoWn

Member
Uh, XC and XCX framerates were fine ? Some drops in heavy battles but nothing major.
XCX was way better than XC, but both still had regular slow downs.

Especially XC in places like Makna forest, that place was horrendous (not to mention a certain boss fight).
 

Ridley327

Member
XCX was way better than XC, but both still had regular slow downs.

Especially XC in places like Makna forest, that place was horrendous (not to mention a certain boss fight).

I'm honestly struggling to think of a place with regular slowdown in XCX, and even the more elaborate battles with tons of effects going on stay smooth.
 
Both XC and XCX had extremely dodgy framerate, and on top of that horrendous pop-ins, so no, their past work doesn't instill any confidence in me.

Those two things were pretty much the only major issues I had with the games though, so I'd like to experience at least one Xenoblade game devoid of any of that shit.

XCX did not have a dodgy framerate.

Monolith should remaster XBC though with this new engine. Ho ma gawd.
 

KLoWn

Member
I'm honestly struggling to think of a place with regular slowdown in XCX, and even the more elaborate battles with tons of effects going on stay smooth.
Hmm I seem to remember having a tough time with it in NLA, but my memory might be mixing up the shitty pop-ins with framerate issues.
 

Ridley327

Member
Hmm I seem to remember having a tough time with it in NLA, but my memory might be mixing up the shitty pop-ins with framerate issues.

Pop-in, yes, that's definitely an issue with how they chose to optimize the game, but that's because they wanted to the framerate to be smooth the whole way through. It's actually rather amazing how consistent the framerate stays, given how insane some of the battles can get later on, both for the story and the post-game Tyrants.
 

KLoWn

Member
Pop-in, yes, that's definitely an issue with how they chose to optimize the game, but that's because they wanted to the framerate to be smooth the whole way through. It's actually rather amazing how consistent the framerate stays, given how insane some of the battles can get later on, both for the story and the post-game Tyrants.
I just skimmed through Digital Foundry's XCX video, and it seems I misremembered my framerate issues, which is a good thing I suppose.

Just pop-in's left then I guess, assuming they actually fix the framerate.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Did they say anything about changing outfits? I still find that girl's outfit completely ridiculous.
 

shingi70

Banned
How does everyone feel about the gamepkay changes compared XCX? I will miss the more WRPG styled game, but Zelda kinda filled that gap for me this year.

I haven't played the original Xenoblade so I'm not sure what to compare Xeno2 too.
 

sinonobu

Banned
Did they say anything about changing outfits? I still find that girl's outfit completely ridiculous.

I think there will be customization options since previous titles had them.... The only problem is that she's a blade and I'm not sure if they'll let you customize them.
 

Ridley327

Member
I think there will be customization options since previous titles had them.... The only problem is that she's a blade and I'm not sure if they'll let you customize them.

Yeah, at a minimum, I expect that every Blade is locked in terms of appearances, especially since there's supposed to be so many of them.
 
I really really want an RPG on my Switch, I just could not get into the battle system of the first one at all...

I am really bummed about it too as this game does seem neat, I just don't get the buff debuff tank gameplay and sit and watch aspect. May be those are too general of sentiments and I am not playing it right any help is appreciated.
 
I really really want an RPG on my Switch, I just could not get into the battle system of the first one at all...

I am really bummed about it too as this game does seem neat, I just don't get the buff debuff tank gameplay and sit and watch aspect. May be those are too general of sentiments and I am not playing it right any help is appreciated.

XBX is really tanky and I personally didn't enjoy the combat as much. XBC though, if you customized your arts and gem builds with crafting, you could make the combat go pretty quickly. Lots of ways to accelerate the combat.

For the first game, definitely learn how to craft gems, the ones you make are much better than the ones you find.
 
I just skimmed through Digital Foundry's XCX video, and it seems I misremembered my framerate issues, which is a good thing I suppose.

Just pop-in's left then I guess, assuming they actually fix the framerate.
Of course you misremembered the framerate issues. Maybe some of you should relax. Everyone has said framerate was fine in the past two games. There's no reason this game will be any different.

Did they say anything about changing outfits? I still find that girl's outfit completely ridiculous.

We found a Cosmetics shop in the game and there's a Cosmetics icon in your menu. This could be for changing clothes.

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sinonobu

Banned
We found a Cosmetics shop in the game and there's a Cosmetics icon in your menu. This could be for changing clothes.

I think character customization is definitely going to be there since past entries had them too.

The real question here is if the game will allow to customize your blade's appearance which seems less likely.
 

KLoWn

Member
Of course you misremembered the framerate issues. Maybe some of you should relax. Everyone has said framerate was fine in the past two games. There's no reason this game will be any different.
Anyone that says the framerate in XC was all fine is a fuckin liar. Simple as that.
 
That menu is about Arts, not characters.

I think that's because the cursor is on the first icon and that stands for Enhance Arts.

See the full picture is for Characters and then you have the 5 icons with it saying select an option to customize.

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I think character customization is definitely going to be there since past entries had them too.

The real question here is if the game will allow to customize your blade's appearance which seems less likely.

I'm starting to believe it more with the picture I posted and the Cosmetics section along with shops. I doubt your Blade's appearance can be changed. I look at them kind of like a Persona or Pokémon and you can't change their appearance.
 

jwillenn

Member
I really really want an RPG on my Switch, I just could not get into the battle system of the first one at all...

I am really bummed about it too as this game does seem neat, I just don't get the buff debuff tank gameplay and sit and watch aspect. May be those are too general of sentiments and I am not playing it right any help is appreciated.


You mean stand still during auto attacks, move to end auto attacks for better positioning or other reasons?

I don't see the problem. It's an "outside the box" way of something that is fundamentally typical. Go and play something typical, like Breath of the Wild (talking basic combat here). When you are there mashing A or whatever, are you moving? You can't actually move while you are swinging your weapon. In this game, all that's truly different is you don't actually have to press the button. By being still, you are saying "press the button". It just happens automatically. When you move, the button is not being pressed, like when you start moving in Breath of the Wild, you're not pressing A at the same time.
 
You mean stand still during auto attacks, move to end auto attacks for better positioning or other reasons?

I don't see the problem. It's an "outside the box" way of something that is fundamentally typical. Go and play something typical, like Breath of the Wild (talking basic combat here). When you are there mashing A or whatever, are you moving? You can't actually move while you are swinging your weapon. In this game, all that's truly different is you don't actually have to press the button. By being still, you are saying "press the button". It just happens automatically. When you move, the button is not being pressed, like when you start moving in Breath of the Wild, you're not pressing A at the same time.

See fundamentally I just wasn't getting the actions or any consistency when I played, it just feels like I am not doing anything, or that I am telling the art to use then trying to time the animations and not the action being performed I guess.

Is that standard MMO type control though?
 

sinonobu

Banned
I'm starting to believe it more with the picture I posted and the Cosmetics section along with shops. I doubt your Blade's appearance can be changed. I look at them kind of like a Persona or Pokémon and you can't change their appearance.

Yeah completely agree with you.

Hopefully they'll give the customization options for certain blades like Homura.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
I think that's because the cursor is on the first icon and that stands for Enhance Arts.

See the full picture is for Characters and then you have the 5 icons with it saying select an option to customize.

Ah, you're right. Now I'm curious what's behind icon number 2.
 
I think that's because the cursor is on the first icon and that stands for Enhance Arts.

See the full picture is for Characters and then you have the 5 icons with it saying select an option to customize.

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I think it's still questionable what each could mean, but cosmetics is probably one of these options, especially given the cosmetics shop. I'm more curious about the first and fifth option sharing art, so could this menu still be placeholder?
 
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