• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Edge Magazine: The 100 Greatest Videogames 2017 Edition

fatherKratos

Neo Member
Are these games listed randomly or the order matters? As its hard to believe Arkham Knight at 66 while games like Bioshock, COD4 towards the end of 80s and even farcry 4 over Witcher 3. But anyways...lists like these always do this.
 
Nekketsu Kõha;247350758 said:
Not significant historically but hardly a personal list either right I mean it is all over the place.

i think edge's own explanation is entirely clear. it's a list of the 100 best games to play today, as judged by edge's critics. it's not a personal list, nor is it objective (as if such a thing were remotely possible).

it's just a list of legitimately great games that everyone should make the effort to check out. would you say anything on the list doesn't meet that criteria?

don't overthink it.
 

Jumeira

Banned
BoTW is great but not the best, I believe W3 is a greater triumph in world design, ambition and scope. I was staggered with W3, never quite felt that with BoTW. But ok list overall. Great games in top 10.
 
i think edge's own explanation is entirely clear. it's a list of the 100 best games to play today, as judged by edge's critics. it's not a personal list, nor is it objective (as if such a thing were remotely possible).

it's just a list of legitimately great games that everyone should make the effort to check out. would you say anything on the list doesn't meet that criteria? don't overthink it.

tenor.gif


But I can't understand the games picked in that context at all for half the list. It doesn't compute!!!

I give up however.
 

Prithee Be Careful

Industry Professional
Witcher 3 at 55 and Far Cry 4 at 54..haha alright.

Happy to see Horizon there though, probably a bit high though.

Destiny at 36 is pretty crazy also.

Yeah, nonsense list with a painfully predictable first pick... second pick only counts if you play the DSfix PC version too.
 
For a list of the best videogames of all time this sure is missing most of the best videogames of all time.

Fallout: New Vegas, Gothic 2, VTMB ???
 

RossoneR

Banned
BB, TLOU, Dark Souls in top 5? Amazing list. Finally list that isnt filled with blind nostalgia.
Witcher 3, sotc, halo 3 should be higher, probably top 20. Gta5, uncharted 4, rez, mgs 5 should be removed , imo. Either way great list.
 
Why does Bomberman always get on these lists, opposed to like 99% of it's sequels that are better in every way?

Edit: no Pac-Man CE DX on the list?!
 

Carcetti

Member
Just on a quick skim of the list, I'm glad it's moved past the 'everything is nostalgia' and recognizes the quality of modern games.
 

Widge

Member
Furthermore, as someone who's played FFVII, if you're willing to look past the graphics the game is still a blast to play. Generally 2D ages better than 3D, but the materia system is great and the tons of Easter eggs/mini games are a delight.

I just don't know about FFVII any more. I mean the game was so significant for me, I spent the best part of a year playing it over and over again on the PSone and only just finished it again for the millionth time this year.

But.

Now I play it, I see how it creaks, all the places where it is a bit of a Frankenstein's monster of a game. I certainly would recommend it to someone if I felt they could peer past the aging process, but it probably doesn't stand up well when compared to the newer games now. I think it has aged way better that FFX has though. Going back to the remaster of that just shows the growing pains.

It's why I feel that a list like this needs to be split. Top 100 games you should play right now vs. Top 100 most significant games ever.
 

paperlynx

Member
Interesting to see a list that doesn't gush over older games, but they are missing quite a few of them...some games have no place on a top 100 list, like Destiny and The Witness
 

DKPOWPOW

Member
Metroid Prime at 72? And it's the only Prime game on the list? Are you on crack?

F-Zero GX at 90? CoD4 at 82? Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Link to the Past in the 30's and not even a mention of (the far superior) Twilight Princess?

Why are they saying only one game per series with straight up sequels, and then have 5 Mario and Zelda games?

Besides a lot of things, it's not a bad list. Plenty of great games in there. BotW at #1 doesn't surprise me, it's changed my entire lookout on how to play games. It really made me notice how incredibly linear some games are (not a bad thing, just depends on the setup).
 

FinalAres

Member
Furthermore, as someone who's played FFVII, if you're willing to look past the graphics the game is still a blast to play. Generally 2D ages better than 3D, but the materia system is great and the tons of Easter eggs/mini games are a delight.
.
It just shows how much 'brand' plays into lists like these. Final Fantasy is at a low point with its brand so now people are saying what was once hailed as the greatest game ever "was never actually good" whereas Zelda is at a high point with its brand (and rightly so) so it is called the greatest game ever made.
 

Striek

Member
One mention of Deus Ex and no mention of Morrowind ITT despite their very notable absence from the top 5/entire list...

tJ8smuY.jpg
 
It's not completely without merit, but there's so much wrong with it. List has GTA V ranked 3rd and Uncharted 4 17th for starters.... I mean c'mon.
 
Buy it here: https://www.myfavouritemagazines.co.uk/gaming/the-100-greatest-videogames/



Previous list (2015): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1117812


100. Super Hexagon
99. Her Story
98. Super Monkey Ball
97. Final Fantasy XII
96. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
95. Hyper Light Drifter
94. Katamari Damacy
93. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
92. Resogun
91. Puzzle Bobble
90. F-Zero GX
89. The Sims 3
88. R-Type Final
87. Elite: Dangerous
86. Bomberman
85. StarCraft II
84. Pac-Man: Championship Edition
83. BioShock
82. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
81. Puzzle & Dragons
80. Tearaway
79. League of Legends
78. Super Meat Boy
77. Xenoblade Chronicles
76. OutRun 2006: Coast to Coast
75. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
74. Civilization IV
73. Battlefield 4
72. Metroid Prime
71. Hearthstone
70. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
69. Limbo
68. Towerfall Ascension
67. EarthBound
66. Batman: Arkham Knight
65. Transistor
64. Puyo Puyo
63. FTL: Advanced Edition
62: Persona 4 Golden
61. Mass Effect 2
60. Okami
59. The Stanley Parable
58. XCOM: Enemy Unknown
57. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
56. The Witcher III: Wild Hunt
55. Far Cry 4

54. Titanfall 2
53. Doom (2016)
52. Trials Fusion
51. Nidhogg
50. Fez
49. Overwatch
48. Super Mario 3D World
47. Journey
46. Dead Space
45. Dota 2
44. Vanquish
43. Super Mario Maker
42. Fire Emblem Fates
41. Inside
40. Shadow of the Colossus
39. Halo 3
38. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
37. Spelunky
36. Destiny
35. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
34. Kerbal Space Program
33. Dishonored
32. Splatoon
31. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
30. Rock Band 3
29. The Last Guardian
28. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
27. Ico
26. Super Metroid
25. Demon's Souls
24. Horizon: Zero Dawn
23. Advance Wars
22. The Witness
21. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
20. Ultra Street Fighter IV
19. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
18. Rez Infinite
17. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
16. Super Mario World
15. Red Dead Redemption
14. Super Mario 64
13. Portal
12. Bayonetta 2
11. Minecraft
10. Resident Evil 4
9. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2
7. Tetris
6. Half-Life 2
5. Bloodborne
4. The Last of Us
3. Grand Theft Auto V
2. Dark Souls
1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

I'm in complaining mood today so I marked games bold I think don't belong on that list at this time in gaming (or that high).

Best games out of that list:
2. Dark Souls
5. Bloodborne
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2
10. Resident Evil 4
90. F-Zero GX
72. Metroid Prime
40. Shadow of the Colossus
38. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
29. The Last Guardian
27. Ico
26. Super Metroid
25. Demon's Souls
21. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
14. Super Mario 64

All of these deserve a place in the top 10.
 

13ruce

Banned
Hmm, not sure what to think of that. Happy for Zelda, but quite a number of absent SNES titles there too.

Galaxy 2 over Mario 64?!
These millennial raters...

Both Galaxy games are better than 64 imo.
Hopefully Mario Odyssey even moreso cuz that kinda is the real 64 successor.

Decent list. No Splatoon anywhere is meh but whatever. Nice some of the Metroid games made it tho.
 

mrmickfran

Member
There is so much wrong with that list that I could make a thread about it.

Only one Final Fantasy? And it's XII?
No Bayonetta? Didn't Edge give it a 10?
No Mario Galaxy? Didn't Edge give that a 10 as well?
Metroid Prime at 72?
Minecraft at 11?
Destiny in the top 40?
Destiny anywhere in the list?
No Persona 5?

I can only say nani so many times.

EDIT: HOLY FUCK NO CHRONO TRIGGER
 
can't trust any list that thinks Bayonetta 2 is a better game that Bayonetta 1

Hardcore 101 did the same. There is something to be said for it. 1 is deeper, but 2 more focused without the insta-fail QTEs, pseudo platforming and overblown Sega hommages. Visually more appealing as well.
 

King_Moc

Banned
Metroid Prime at 72? And it's the only Prime game on the list? Are you on crack?

F-Zero GX at 90? CoD4 at 82? Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Link to the Past in the 30's and not even a mention of (the far superior) Twilight Princess?

Why are they saying only one game per series with straight up sequels, and then have 5 Mario and Zelda games?

By straight up sequels, I think they mean iterative games within a series. So Gears of War 1,2 & 3, or the Gran Turismo's, for instance. Mario and Zelda games are generally complete reimaginings, though they do contain mini-series within them, such as NSMB or SMB 1-3.
 

King_Moc

Banned
There is so much wrong with that list that I could make a thread about it.

Only one Final Fantasy? And it's XII?
No Bayonetta? Didn't Edge give it a 10?
No Mario Galaxy? Didn't Edge give that a 10 as well?
Metroid Prime at 72?
Minecraft at 11?
Destiny in the top 40?
Destiny anywhere in the list?
No Persona 5?

I can only say nani so many times.

Going by their rules, only one FF, Bayonetta or Galaxy game is eligible. Though I'd argue that, despite the numbers, FF games are not traditional sequels.

Also, XII is the best FF anyway.
 

traveler

Not Wario
I'm in complaining mood today so I marked games bold I think don't belong on that list at this time in gaming (or that high).

Best games out of that list:
2. Dark Souls
5. Bloodborne
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2
10. Resident Evil 4
90. F-Zero GX
72. Metroid Prime
40. Shadow of the Colossus
38. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
29. The Last Guardian
27. Ico
26. Super Metroid
25. Demon's Souls
21. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
14. Super Mario 64

All of these deserve a place in the top 10.

...14 games deserve the top 10? Hahaha what?

Going by their rules, only one FF, Bayonetta or Galaxy game is eligible. Though I'd argue that, despite the numbers, FF games are not traditional sequels.

Also, XII is the best FF anyway.

Yeah, I don't see how you can be against including FFVII, FFXII, and FFXIV- just to name some random ones- in the same list but ok with including Dark Souls and Bloodborne in the name of diversity. IP/series name is just not that relevant.
 
There is so much wrong with that list that I could make a thread about it.

Only one Final Fantasy? And it's XII?
No Bayonetta? Didn't Edge give it a 10?
No Mario Galaxy? Didn't Edge give that a 10 as well?
Metroid Prime at 72?
Minecraft at 11?
Destiny in the top 40?
Destiny anywhere in the list?
No Persona 5?

I can only say nani so many times.

EDIT: HOLY FUCK NO CHRONO TRIGGER

They picked Bayo 2, Galxy 2 (both tens as well) and Persona 4 over other games in the series.
 
I don't like the list, though I believe it was compiled for people who are approaching gaming right now, hence the plethora of lesser but more modern games.

That aside my top 5 would have been:

1) Doom (the original)
2) Super Mario 64
3) ICO
4) Tetris
5) Pac-Man
 

mrmickfran

Member
They picked Bayo 2, Galxy 2 (both tens as well) and Persona 4 over other games in the series.

Oh, they're doing the one per franchise rule. Whoops should've read that lol

Bayonetta and Galaxy are superior to their sequels so my complaint still stands.
Going by their rules, only one FF, Bayonetta or Galaxy game is eligible. Though I'd argue that, despite the numbers, FF games are not traditional sequels.

Also, XII is the best FF anyway.
But C'mon, just XII? I like the game too but, XII?
 
Edge including average games like Horizon, Far Cry 4, Arkham Knight, Inside and so on over many of the classics they've left out is baffling to say the least
 
Top Bottom