Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
then incendiary flow and oath of chandra counts though.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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then incendiary flow and oath of chandra counts though.
It sure is... I picked an excellent time to pick up the game.
Also, whoever said to buy Authority of the Consuls was on point: it seems sold out everywhere.
Joe Molotov
Member
Ironically, I wonder if Spell Pierce and Duress improves the meta for Red Aggro. It doesn't run a lot of non-creature spells.
I want this, a sealed Beta starter deck for the low, low price of 7k:
http://store.channelfireball.com/catalog/magic_sealed_product-starter_decks/beta_starter_deck/65288
http://store.channelfireball.com/catalog/magic_sealed_product-starter_decks/beta_starter_deck/65288
They're uncommon and rare tho
Nothing wrong with lightning strike at common in limited. It's no doom blade.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It doesn't do anything.
Duress and Spell Pierce aren't mainboard cards in an environment that doesn't have Jace the Mind Sculptor or something in it. The most powerful one is Chandra, but Chandra doesn't randomly get repeatable Brainstorm.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Didn't duress see mainboard play during the days of CoCo?
Grixis does give you access to Sweltering Suns which is better than Bontu's Last Reckoning. Control needs a cheap board wipe for aggro now that Radiant Flames and Flaying Tendrils are rotating out. You have a point about the mana base though; Wandering Fumerole will be missed. Will Ixalan have decent enemy colored lands? I never know how WotC rotate their lands.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
CoCo isn't legal and neither is something game-breaking like Jace the Mind Sculptor. It would have to be a format where there's enough non-creature spells you can hit mainboard. A format dominated by aggro isn't such a format.
It has generic taplands. Wizards has proven they're okay with enemy colored lands getting the shaft these days. You'll probably see an enemy colored cycle in Dominaria, but who knows if it will actually be any good.
charlequin
Banned
The biggest problem here is that the really painful lag time (between finalizing a set and releasing it) is mostly due to physical production issues. They have to start printing a set way in advance to be able to actually release it in sufficient quantity on day one, and they have to reserve print time so they need to have absolute deadlines to get final files in place. I don't think in comparison there's actually that much they can do on the design side to speed things up here.
They just printed the enemy fastlands in KLD though...?
Wulfric
Member
HASCON Exclusive playmats: http://imgur.com/gallery/H28w7
Grimlock is double sided, it looks like. Anyone going to this thing?
Grimlock is double sided, it looks like. Anyone going to this thing?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
They made 2 new cycles of duals with types w/o completing them as a huge FU to EDH players. One of them having cycling making them almost impossible to print in anything soon.
Oh right we're losing that, how could black have the worst wraths in a set that's lending from exodus.
Angry Grimace
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That's in an entirely different rotation block though and in the middle of them doing a bunch of weird stuff with rotation at the time.
They keep making new untapped cycles that are allied only for some random reason.
SigmasonicX
Member
Speaking of HasCon, I think we should temporarily change the thread title for Iconic Masters.
Iconic Masters - A tournament of completely unknown cards
I wanted to make an Ubisoft iconic joke, but saying what's going on is more important.
Iconic Masters - A tournament of completely unknown cards
I wanted to make an Ubisoft iconic joke, but saying what's going on is more important.
I'm considering it now that the tickets are on sale for $30. It's just a train ride away and they've got anniversary drafts and the Iconic Masters prerelease. But I wouldn't be able to go until Sunday so the novelty of the latter will probably have worn off by then...
I don't really care about any Hasbro properties other than MTG and D&D, though, and I don't really see much of a point in the D&D stuff they have going on. I dunno. It's a hard sell.
At least it won't be crowded!
I'd love cycling to be evergreen. It makes printing/playing corner case cards so much more viable and is a boon to the game, imo.
https://twitter.com/GabySpartz/status/905456768343449604
At least we know they are going to actually show us the game in action, not just show us videos and stuff.
At least we know they are going to actually show us the game in action, not just show us videos and stuff.
Oh right, I almost forgot about that. This weekend is going to be madness with everyone at hascon tweeting pictures of their draft packs and everyone cobbling together the full spoiler. Sounds fun!
I don't think there's need to change the title though.
hnnng I need to see it
FreedomFrisbee
Member
Physical production puts a cap on their maximum speed. As in, at minumum things need to hit the printers 6 months ahead of time (or whatever the number is). But set creation starts way off in lala land and goes through several years of rigamarole to even get to print. A lot of that lead time is necessary for the art end, but unlike printing it's something that can reasonably solved by throwing a reasonable amount of people at it, and we know they're doing that. Bulk up on staff, shorten lead time.
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
I would but $60 just to get in in really steep.
SigmasonicX
Member
It's an unusual enough situation that I think we should bring attention to it.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
In 2004, I went to a Wizard World convention thing explicitly to play in a Yu Yu Hakusho TCG regional tournament. I ended up making day 2, and had to fucking buy a Sunday day pass because I didn't realize it would have a day 2 cut, and only bought a Saturday pass.
Yes, I payed like $100 convention fees, in addition to the $30 entry fee for the tournament, and I didn't place high enough to cash.
Might as well not even bother developing it then
If I can play it on iPad I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting point!
Angry Grimace
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Prediction: everyone will be disappointed at whatever it is.
I don't think anyone outside the thread will care, but if you want to change it just pm charlequin
Doesn't line up with the stuff they have said about it being a replacement for mtgo.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Isn't arena a bigger deal than Iconic Masters?
Definitely, but I assume Nirolak will make a separate thread for the Arena announcement.
I'm guessing it's just Duels with none of the deckbuilding restrictions, full sets day and date (Kaladesh-on), and cross-platform play- same login works on all platforms.
I don't know how you handle Instants in any method other than the one Duels had, without making it even more clunky.
Significantly!
I don't know how you handle Instants in any method other than the one Duels had, without making it even more clunky.
Significantly!
I would be happy with this. It also has to have limited formats with actual 8 players drafts (not simulated like Eternal). The dream is also having some sort of points/pack redemption in physical boosters for the digital game. It makes so much sense to drive use of both the physical and digital product but I give it about a 5% chance of actually happening.
It's absolutely going to be something you can watch on twitch.
charlequin
Banned
That conversation thread was about Standard, tho. Eternal is a whole 'nother thing.
I mean it's not a random reason really, it's because they have a ton of cycles to catch up on so they usually finish one of those when they get the chance. They just need to dedicate themselves to doing reprinting more often when they do allied cycles so they can catch up.
I think they made the right call having Scry be the evergreen card flow mechanic. Cycling takes more conceptual space just due to having a cost and all these associated mechanics (cycling triggers, etc.) attached to it. It also plays in a noticeable way so it's better for periodic appearance, I think. I would say they should have it on higher rotation than they do, though.
I just don't think this part actually has much downside. The biggest issues with timing are that they can't react to current metagames and they sometimes print bullshit when they tweak stuff at the last second, but I don't think there's a lot of things where it feels like the idea itself is too out of date.
Now I am just picturing a poorly animated Jace avatar that constantly is spitting out one liners as you play your cards.
Edit: Gaby also posted that they will have beta signup info during the steam tomorrow
Imperfected
Member
We didn't change the thread for Commander 2017, why change it for Iconic Masters?
Because of the dumb no-spoiler gimmick alone?
Because of the dumb no-spoiler gimmick alone?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You're asking for MTGO v5, not whatever this is. The chance that they're going to completely cannibalize MTGO doesn't seem very high to me. I don't ever expect a Duels-type game to ever have drafting at all.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, MTGO could absolutely exist in a Hearthstone-quality game, just not for whatever money WOTC is willing to put into it.
I wouldn't even be surprised if whatever thing Gaby and Amaz are testing tomorrow turns out to be janky as fuck.
I wouldn't even be surprised if whatever thing Gaby and Amaz are testing tomorrow turns out to be janky as fuck.