freeofgreed
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Whoa holy shit. Yes please.
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Amazon CEO demands a 'Game of Thrones' style hit
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Whoa holy shit. Yes please.
One Eyed Willy
Member
Isn't there a Witcher TV series already in the works?
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
People calling for a Warhammer series are nuts. Mainstream audiences will never watch grimdark hyper violence in the millions.
Thrones snuck it's fantasy elements in after several seasons of political intrigue that would have fit in a period drama. By the time the fantasy elements took center stage people were already invested in the characters so they didn't care.
It's almost laughable to think people would watch seven foot tall hulking space marines fight bugs and demons en mass.
Some that focuses on people being people brings the audiences in. The wire, the supranos, breaking bad, etc. All these shows are focused on intricate, intense character interaction.
Dune would work if it were trimmed of a lot of Sci fi elements. Hell it might be great if adapted to low fantasy to ground it more.
Thrones snuck it's fantasy elements in after several seasons of political intrigue that would have fit in a period drama. By the time the fantasy elements took center stage people were already invested in the characters so they didn't care.
It's almost laughable to think people would watch seven foot tall hulking space marines fight bugs and demons en mass.
Some that focuses on people being people brings the audiences in. The wire, the supranos, breaking bad, etc. All these shows are focused on intricate, intense character interaction.
Dune would work if it were trimmed of a lot of Sci fi elements. Hell it might be great if adapted to low fantasy to ground it more.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Nah you strip Dune of its headier elements and you might as well make Dances With Wolves or any other normal white savior story.
An Ivalice TV show would basically be Final Fantasy GoT!...
Okay, so only I want that.
I wonder what it would take to get your average TV watcher to get into a live action Gundam series? You could have the grey morality, political maneuverings, backstabbings, many important characters, crazy death scenes, AND giant robots.
Okay, so only I want that.
I wonder what it would take to get your average TV watcher to get into a live action Gundam series? You could have the grey morality, political maneuverings, backstabbings, many important characters, crazy death scenes, AND giant robots.
The problem with Amazon Prime is 'what is an Amazon show'? You could argue that their signature show is Transparent but Bosch is probably the most popular show they produce. And while Netflix has a good spread of genres there's nothing that sets Amazon apart in the way that a Handmaid Tale gives Hulu an identity.
Rumours were Amazon was going to get into business with WB/DC (possibly picking up Scalped?) which has intensified when Geoff Johns started following Roy Price on Twitter.
So..., probably expect a DC or Vertigo adaptation announced for Amazon Prime in the next few weeks?
Rumours were Amazon was going to get into business with WB/DC (possibly picking up Scalped?) which has intensified when Geoff Johns started following Roy Price on Twitter.
So..., probably expect a DC or Vertigo adaptation announced for Amazon Prime in the next few weeks?
S1 of that show was better than this past Game of Thrones season, but I don't think it has the same wide appeal. Great job though by the producers on American Gods.
Probably won't happen, but I'm definitely cool with them trying and adapting good stories with high budgets.
This would be amazing.
This would be amazing.
I liked American Gods, but tbh the show felt drawn out on purpose. Like they're really trying to stretch it out and trying to get as many seasons as possible from it, which makes the show suffer imo. So if that's the case for S2, personally I'm out.
Locke Lamora
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Would love to watch a The First Law (Joe Abercrombie) TV show. Probably I'd be the only one watching it though. 
Robin Hobb's series would seem to be an ok fit. There's a lot of magic going on but it seems to be pretty low key IIRC for the first few books/season.
They blew it when they didn't snatch The Witcher. That book series/game already has a built in fan base with a similar world to GOT. Lots of backstory, lots of intrigue, and "magic" is really rare for the most part. The games jacked up the magic usage for gameplay and variety reasons but that can be toned down, particularly in a world where most people are so averse to magic anyway.
They blew it when they didn't snatch The Witcher. That book series/game already has a built in fan base with a similar world to GOT. Lots of backstory, lots of intrigue, and "magic" is really rare for the most part. The games jacked up the magic usage for gameplay and variety reasons but that can be toned down, particularly in a world where most people are so averse to magic anyway.
N7 MRP Weasel
Banned
HBO would be the best choice anyways...
Stormwatch
Member
I'd love to see an original idea. It seems like everything these days is some sort of adaption, sequel, or reboot.
China Mieville's Bas Lag trilogy of novels (Perdido Street Station, The Scar, and The Iron Council) would make an absolutely amazing live action series but would be an incredibly massive undertaking considering all the crazy shit that happens and the variety of truly fantastical creatures. Not too mention the novels are filled with all kinds of amazing characters, amazing battles and political intrigue and drama in a truly fantastical setting the likes we rarely see. Oh and the representation would be great as across the three novels we have a black, a female and a gay set of protagonists.
It took a while for the show to become the 'water cooler' phenom it is.
You can't buy that genuine reaction to things. A lot of people I know got into the show after the red wedding pierced the mainstream media. I mean it was on front pages in the U.K. That is hilarious to think.
You can't buy that genuine reaction to things. A lot of people I know got into the show after the red wedding pierced the mainstream media. I mean it was on front pages in the U.K. That is hilarious to think.
Would love to watch a The First Law (Joe Abercrombie) TV show. Probably I'd be the only one watching it though.
That user name tho.
It's even more laughable to think that a TV show on Amazon would have a budget to even do any of that shit from that universe.
I mean The Tick is a lot of fun but it's cheap as hell, but thankfully it's the one show where that kind of still works in it's favor a little bit.
I can't imagine a large scale scifi epic fantasy where basically everything would need CGI.
shira
Member
Warcraft, Star Wars, Transformers, Avatar. Shit like that
I feel like Mistborn needs to be an anime. I don't think it's work live action.
supermetfreud
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Adapt the Dandelion Dynasty
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Having your show become the cultural zeitgeist isn't a common thing. Its good to have lofty goals but thats pretty much winning the lottery.
UnemployedVillain
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Lol you can't honestly believe this. Netflix has been saying for years that their plan is to move over to primarily more original content compared to licensed content. Amazon didn't "scare" them into doing anything
Depends, the way the filter bubble works it would definitely inflate it. If all you see on social media are articles from Upworthy and Buzzfeed about American Gods for example, you're bound to think that the entire world is talking about it. That's why people are always surprised that a show like Big Bang Theory gets so many viewers still. All we see on the internet are articles and videos tearing it down, but there are literally millions of people who love the show and watch it religiously.
I don't think there is any further news about The Witcher except that Platige Image is producing it and that it's based on the books. We don't even know if it's going to be a live action show or an animated show.
I can legitimately see this happening.Easy. World of Darkness. Tons of world building, multiple locations, Magic and Tech. Vampire clans, Werewolf tribes, Mages, mortal hunters, The Church and CIA conspiracies. Guns and Sex.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I 100% think Berserk would work well as a live-action Game of Thrones-esque TV show and be the best adaptation of the source material. Good luck getting the budget for that though.
Easy. World of Darkness. Tons of world building, multiple locations, Magic and Tech. Vampire clans, Werewolf tribes, Mages, mortal hunters, The Church and CIA conspiracies. Guns and Sex.
Oh yeah. That would easily work.
Though I'd kill for a Gaunt's Ghosts series, since Warhammer 40K has been brought up.
clarknova156
Member
I have a suggestion... Berserk.
Haha right. That won't happen.
michaelius
Banned
And yet most people at least heard about one of HBO shows while I can't even remember anything that was made by Amazon.
Easy. World of Darkness. Tons of world building, multiple locations, Magic and Tech. Vampire clans, Werewolf tribes, Mages, mortal hunters, The Church and CIA conspiracies. Guns and Sex.
I'm for this. Urban fantasy is cheaper than period pieces and sci-fi. If you want to spice it up make it near future/cyberpunk like Shadowrun.
In fact, Shadowrun gets Dragon CEOs! Let's just do Shadowrun!
Note: my phone hates Shadowrun as a word, immediately tries to delete it no suggestions.
John Rabbit
Banned
First thought was Jeff Bezos demanding someone be killed by poison.
i'm definitely not advocating a warhammer show but the first scene of GOT season 1 was supernatural stuff and the last scene was dragons, zombies were already at the wall in season 1.
Season 2 introduced ghost shadow assassin baby's and other wierdness.
It's fantasy elements have only really gotten a much bigger focus in this latest season because things are all coming together, the nights watch and Dany's stories have finally moved toward kings landing.
I think 100% that Berserk would not work as a "GoT" style show that Amazon wants to have "GoT" style appeal.
This is coming from a mega-fan of Berserk.
Legend of Galactic Heroes has way better appeal, though their going to have to rename it to sound cooler.
Reptars Revenge
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Make it 2. One for the fall and spring. Zelda please but good.
I think the solution is simple...there's an easy way to synergize Amazon's role as a seller while creating a hit show:
Remake the Truman Show, and have everything there on the show available to Amazon buyers. Just grab a kid, build a giant dome, hire everyone to be actors around him or her...it'd be messed up, but really cool. Or just don't even make it a reality show...I just want want more Truman Show-related drama and stories. If there's any company that could make a giant sustainable dome though...it'd probably be Amazon.
Remake the Truman Show, and have everything there on the show available to Amazon buyers. Just grab a kid, build a giant dome, hire everyone to be actors around him or her...it'd be messed up, but really cool. Or just don't even make it a reality show...I just want want more Truman Show-related drama and stories. If there's any company that could make a giant sustainable dome though...it'd probably be Amazon.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It's a roll of the dice, and a pretty expensive one at that. Thrones built on its audience year after year. That kinda momentum is rare. Walking Dead has it. Breaking Bad had it. And now Game of Thrones. There are just a myriad of reasons why something might look like Thrones on paper, but ultimately won't connect. I have a feeling lots of networks are going to be chasing "the next Thrones" and will fall on their faces. Just like all the Lost wannabes that were around in the late 2000s.
In my opinion the world building and fantasy setting is a distant second as to why GoT is so popular. The story is set up like a soap opera or cw drama, a cliff hanger in most chapters, constant backstabbing etc. If something like LotR was on hbo with an unlimited budget it wouldnt be nearly as popular.
autumnleaf
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Ugh I hate talk like this, always from useless executive types who do nothing and yet paid a fortune for it. Did it really take looking at "the data" for some time to realise big shows make the difference? Really? Did you pitch that big breakthrough to your bosses and get a fat bonus for it? Pfft.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
GoT is a gateway to fantasy.. it fits small bits of fantasy into a pretty standard medieval setting.
I'm not so sure a full high fantasy or sci-fi series will have the same cross-over appeal.
Correct, LotR doesn't have the same theme of internal and external politics that drive the entire story arc... if you think about it GoT and say the Sopranos are really the same show but different genres. The backbone is the political intrigue the characters are involved in.
I'm not so sure a full high fantasy or sci-fi series will have the same cross-over appeal.
Correct, LotR doesn't have the same theme of internal and external politics that drive the entire story arc... if you think about it GoT and say the Sopranos are really the same show but different genres. The backbone is the political intrigue the characters are involved in.
killertofu
Member
How about making a non-shit interface first?
Netflix's UX honestly is part of the reason why I gravitate towards them instead of Amazon. And Amazon has a way better selection imo
Netflix's UX honestly is part of the reason why I gravitate towards them instead of Amazon. And Amazon has a way better selection imo