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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2017 (Sep 04 - Sep 10)

Eolz

Member
It's a mixed situation for japanese third party support, ranges from great to low/inexistent really. Which isn't that bad now that we're seeing big third party support from the rest of the world as well.
PSO2 was unexpected.
 
seriously,the whole childish panicking needs to stop,it's pointless and bullshit af tbh

Btw,Kirby launching on Spring is a pretty good strategy,decent direct also
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
The Direct clearly had a Global focus - and the release schedule is pretty much filled for Nintendo with their first party content and what is published world wide. Very good showing.

Obv. their will be more announcements in the future whenever Bamco, Level 5, SE and co. are ready to talk. But unless these games are dropping anytime soon there is no reason to announce or start market them now - this has been the whole Switch software strategy from Day 1.

seriously,the whole childish panicking needs to stop,it's pointless and bullshit af tbh

I agree.
 
My guess is for the first half of 2018 we will get 3 small games like Kirby and Yoshi and one major(my guess is Abinal Crossing)
My predictions are
Kirby
Yoshi
Animal Crossing
New IP
For first half of 2018
Fill the rest with 3rd parties
 
Kirby is launching before Yoshi, I'm surprised.

Yoshi looked extremely incomplete so not that surprising in hindsight I suppose.

And I def do agree the Japanese support is awful thus far. But looking at the Western support I'm less of the opinion that they dont want to support it and more of the opinion that their porting and development pipelines are way less flexible.
 
It's not like a Nintendo Direct is the only place that third parties will announce games. A lot of publishers like to announce their stuff on their own schedule.

As of right now, we can say that Square Enix and Koei Tecmo are all in. Sega is also giving decent support, and Atlus has already announced Shin Megami Tensei for the system. Bandai Namco is the major question mark in terms of their relative lack of support so far, but they are committed to bringing Tales and Taiko, and with the strong performance of Xenoverse 2, I would imagine more Dragon Ball games (and probably more of their anime games in general) would likely to be on the way. I'm still a bit surprised that Hacker's Memory didn't get a Switch version, but I'd be surprised if Digimon doesn't start to move over with the next version.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I'd add that i know it doesn't count for Road of TGS and we've known about it since January...but Octopath Traveler looks really good and a serious effort from SE. I don't think that should be overlooked.
 

kinger256

Member
Wait for TGS I suppose.
Not too worried really. The Switch is going to eventually be transitioned to. I'm just surprised Western devs did it faster given how little faith I had in them. Doom and Skyrim are bigger than anything Japanese publishers will have out this year. . . how?

Because Skyrim is bring published by Nintendo, I feel it's more of an initiative from Nintendo rather than Bethesda, and that it didn't really say much about Bethesda's attitude towards the switch. But Doom and Wolfenstein definitely shows they at least have some positive opinions about the switch.
 

Oregano

Member
I'd add that i know it doesn't count for Road of TGS and we've known about it since January...but Octopath Traveler looks really good and a serious effort from SE. I don't think that should be overlooked.

As I said it's great to see it got placed alongside Pokémon, Xenoblade and Mario as a major title for the direct too. I think Nintendo is going to push it hard.
 

Ōkami

Member
3DS has the strongest holiday season again, albeit Switch will still be the bigger system.

Minecraft only on new 3DS is dissapointing, I had high expectations, as is there are less new 3DSs than Vita's.
 

Eolz

Member
I'd add that i know it doesn't count for Road of TGS and we've known about it since January...but Octopath Traveler looks really good and a serious effort from SE. I don't think that should be overlooked.

It looks fantastic, but for some reason, it also feels like a Bravely Second situation to me.
A game with a cheaper budget than it should. Will still be great though, looks way better than Lost Sphear.
 

horuhe

Member
Ōkami;248900159 said:
3DS has the strongest holiday season again, albeit Switch will still be the bigger system.

Minecraft only on new 3DS is dissapointing, I had high expectations, as is there are less new 3DSs than Vita's.

Well, it was very well known that OG 3DS couldn't move that as a hardware. Thus, I think Minecraft Vita really had an anomalous behaviour on Sony platforms. I bet on a Nintendo platform doing on par if not better.
 

Ōkami

Member
No new games for Switch this year, TGS may change that, but I wouldn't be sure.

Doom and Skyrim are 2018 titles in Japan, November has no big game and the biggest thing for December is Xenoblade 2.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Switch has already quite the impressive lineup...it doesnt need a specific game for a specific months to have strong Holiday sales. Every new owner in the next months will have enough to chose from.
 

Oregano

Member
Fallout 4 had huge problems to sustain 30fps target on PS4 and Xbox One. Doom runs on toaster PCs well below even Xbox One. They are really not comparable.

True but it's a lot more believable now than it was.
Ōkami;248900159 said:
3DS has the strongest holiday season again, albeit Switch will still be the bigger system.

Minecraft only on new 3DS is dissapointing, I had high expectations, as is there are less new 3DSs than Vita's.

Nintendo making sure 3DS stays up YoY.
 

noshten

Member
Ōkami;248901218 said:
No new games for Switch this year, TGS may change that, but I wouldn't be sure.

Doom and Skyrim are 2018 titles in Japan, November has no big game and the biggest thing for December is Xenoblade 2.

Switch owners have Splatoon 2 updates to look forward to, frankly it didn't really need another major 1st party game to continue selling extremely well - it just needs Nintendo to sort out stock.

3DS is getting it's last major seller in Ultra Sun/Moon with a Pokemon themed 2DSXL in November.

I'm still awaiting the announcement of physical Minecraft - it's September already and the game has been out dominating eShop Charts for four months now. Also when is Rocket League releasing in Japan?
 
I'd add that i know it doesn't count for Road of TGS and we've known about it since January...but Octopath Traveler looks really good and a serious effort from SE. I don't think that should be overlooked.

The demo being put out today, as well as the spotlight focus, makes it very clear that this is being positioned as a major title from Square. It also seems like they're pretty intent on building up a word of mouth campaign pre-release.
 
Because Skyrim is bring published by Nintendo, I feel it's more of an initiative from Nintendo rather than Bethesda, and that it didn't really say much about Bethesda's attitude towards the switch. But Doom and Wolfenstein definitely shows they at least have some positive opinions about the switch.

Oh sure I understand that. But the biggest supporters for the Switch were suppose to be Japanese publishers and the biggest Switch games this year outside of Nintendo's are all Western games. Fifa, NBA, Skyrim, Doom, Minecraft.

It's honestly pretty weird. It tells me Japanese publishers

A) Lack faith
B) Really have shitty development pipelines.

Square Enix are the best Japanese Switch supporter thus far. Weird.
 

starmud

Member
the larger pubs are showing support and it will get better. sega (outside of the yakuza fest), SE, TK, namco will show up with the usual's and surprises eventually.

im only concerned about two publishers/devs,

capcom, but who really knows where they plan on going...

i find level 5 the biggest oddity and probably a missing link to be worried about. the DS legacy left them looking very tight with nintendo and they added a ton of value to the DS. theyve been acting very differently as of late and recent releases.

we've seen some burnt feelings from developers who made successful IP based on the hardware of the DS complaining on how they can transfer to a one screen system. which feels insanely lazy and most of the games in such case could use a retooling (etrian/level 5 in general lol).
 

Oregano

Member
Just loaded up the Project Octopath Demo and I'm greeted with two unexpected logos:

Acquire
Unreal Engine

Guess it's one of those 20+ Unreal Engine games.

Also means Silicon Studio might still be making a new Bravely game
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Switch has already quite the impressive lineup...it doesnt need a specific game for a specific months to have strong Holiday sales. Every new owner in the next months will have enough to chose from.

I'd say the Western lineup is stronger than Japan.

...

That said, it won't matter this year- Switch will sell what it ships in Japan.
 

Ōkami

Member
Style Savvy 4 was a nice surprise, has been long enough since 3, but with everything declining on 3DS.

Its Pokémon vs. Yo-kai Watch again, fight is very different this year though, who will drop the hardest!?

Biggest November release for Switch is the DQX expansion, and in a weird twist of fate, it might sell the most on Wii U, either way far from a big release.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Ōkami;248903585 said:
Biggest November release for Switch is the DQX expansion, and in a weird twist of fate, it might sell the most on Wii U, either way far from a big release.

Yeah- unless there is a a surprise impactful port announced next week or so, 3rd parties this holiday in Japan have nothing substantial.
 
Japanese third-parties can't port their games fast enough, lol.

To be honest even Square Enix seems to be a bit confused. What is that DQB port and why is it coming so late? LMAO
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Yeah, given how barren Famitsu was this week, I'm not too surprised that Japanese developers don't seem ready. Still maintaining the Fall 2018 estimate for widespread support.

Bethesda is giving it a real go though. If we assume the Fallout 4 retail listing is real, that's all their major studios sans Arkane and Tango. Well, the MMO isn't there either, but I don't think anyone is expecting that.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Yeah, given how barren Famitsu was this week, I'm not too surprised that Japanese developers don't seem ready. Still maintaining the Fall 2018 estimate for widespread support.
.

I'd also add that switch has seen a decent amount of ports, etc. announced last 3 weeks that could have been unveiled in the Direct and all of a sudden its "flood of Japanese titles announced".

That said, still looks like an underwhelming holiday for 3rd parties. Not that it will matter.
 

ggx2ac

Member
So (I think it was) OrbitalBeard was half-right, Hamster is bringing Arcade Archives to Switch but surprisingly it is Nintendo's arcade games rather than what Hamster already put on PS4.

Went to check the list just to make sure that Donkey Kong (Arcade) obviously wouldn't be appearing.
 

flohen95

Member
For me the only missing thing was Minecraft retail version.



They said they will open them today.

I suspect the retail version of Minecraft will come with (or after) the Better Together update. That's why I'm not surprised that there's no new information on it just yet.
 
Ōkami;248900159 said:
3DS has the strongest holiday season again, albeit Switch will still be the bigger system.

Minecraft only on new 3DS is dissapointing, I had high expectations, as is there are less new 3DSs than Vita's.

No there are more new 3ds than vita
 
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