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Rick & Morty [Mafia] |OT| Someone's been spending too much time around glowing rocks

Earlier Kawl advanced his theory about Bronx and I asked which player were involved and would target Bronx for such a reason. He did not provide any names.
I don't know how you expect him to be able to name a specific player that would investigate Bronx on behalf of scum to check if he had a special role day 1, such a decision was probably made in a semi-random or was chosen from a pool of players scum didn't have a good read on.
 

Faddy

Banned
I don't know how you expect him to be able to name a specific player that would investigate Bronx on behalf of scum to check if he had a special role day 1, such a decision was probably made in a semi-random or was chosen from a pool of players scum didn't have a good read on.

He said scum may have targeted Bronx because of his good play in a different game. If Kawl wants that idea to be taken seriously he should provide names so that people who did not participate in that game can have an idea who he is throwing shade at.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
He said scum may have targeted Bronx because of his good play in a different game. If Kawl wants that idea to be taken seriously he should provide names so that people who did not participate in that game can have an idea who he is throwing shade at.

I literally stopped reading the game once I died, I just know he won as a SK. I barely have time to read this game, I'm not going to go read a second game to give you a name, when it is equally as likely to have come from someone who is merely aware of Bronx coming off of a 3rd party win. You don't have to have played in a game to be aware of its outcome/winners/losers. I actually wasn't throwing shade any one in particular, but do keep putting words in my mouth, they taste delightful.
 
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Fat4all (3)
CCS 1038
Ourobolus 1050
The Wizard 1062

Sorian (2)
*Splinter 1009
acohrs 1018

Swamped (2)
Kawl_USC 1029
Sorian 1083

No active vote for Day 3: Dr. Worm, Dusk Soldier, Faddy, Fat4all, Giant Panda, Nomadic Sparks, Penguin, SalvaPot, Swamped, zeemumu, Zeusy

Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 11, acohrs 8, CCS 5, Dr. Worm 4, Dusk Soldier 7, Faddy 16, Fat4all 1, Giant Panda 3, Kawl_USC 15, Nomadic Sparks 1, Ourobolus 10, Penguin 9, SalvaPot 2, Sorian 17, Swamped 6, The Wizard 4, zeemumu 6, Zeusy 2


Day 3 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

10 votes for majority
 
Thinking it over more, I'm actually worried about a scenario where neither Fat or Zee is scum. It seems a bit suspicious to me that one of the biggest pushers of a Fat lynch got vote blocked (highly likely to be a scum ability) and that the last voter for Zee got night killed. It makes me wonder if scum were trying to throw suspicions towards the next top lynch targets to try to get us to stick to looking mostly at them today. With that in mind, we should be careful not to tunnel vision too much onto just Fat and Zee.

Swamped for example is an interesting choice, I'll need to reread some of her posts to get an idea about her. I'll try to do that at the same time I'm looking into Fat and Zee again. I'm a little reluctant to completely drop acohrs too.
 
And yes, I didn't care if people followed me but I did want a counter that I actually thought could be scum. The "had a chance" means had a chance to be scum, not had a chance to be the lynch.

Also I don't think Swamped being town hurts us more than any other mislynch. She isn't really contributing much.

jeez, wish I was this good with my analysis
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
Thinking it over more, I'm actually worried about a scenario where neither Fat or Zee is scum. It seems a bit suspicious to me that one of the biggest pushers of a Fat lynch got vote blocked (highly likely to be a scum ability) and that the last voter for Zee got night killed. It makes me wonder if scum were trying to throw suspicions towards the next top lynch targets to try to get us to stick to looking mostly at them today. With that in mind, we should be careful not to tunnel vision too much onto just Fat and Zee.

this is where I'm starting to end up with the voteblock, honestly

I think whoever did it to me did so knowing I'd raise a big stink, and fat4all would probably be an easy enough lynch even without my vote in that scenario

Zeusy, Nomadic, what's your take on this?
 

Penguin

Member
Can folks expand on their vote?

Like cards on the table, probably no surprise I'm leaning Zeem, but Nomadic, Zeus, Dusk? Why Fat and Salvo?
 
this is where I'm starting to end up with the voteblock, honestly

I think whoever did it to me did so knowing I'd raise a big stink, and fat4all would probably be an easy enough lynch even without my vote in that scenario

Zeusy, Nomadic, what's your take on this?

Whoever voteblocked is scum

I'd be very shocked if fat was townie and yet very not surprised considering town's luck so far
 
Can folks expand on their vote?

Like cards on the table, probably no surprise I'm leaning Zeem, but Nomadic, Zeus, Dusk? Why Fat and Salvo?

First of all, you are quite possibly deflecting any conversation about yourself because you may be a bit scummy

second of all I agree with whoever that fat4all may be scum as well

third of all, I just bandwagon until I hit a landmine
 

Penguin

Member
First of all, you are quite possibly deflecting any conversation about yourself because you may be a bit scummy

second of all I agree with whoever that fat4all may be scum as well

third of all, I just bandwagon until I hit a landmine

What conversation about me have I deflected?

And bandwagoning isn't a smart way to play the game. You'll just be led by scum to targets they want to take out
 

Sorian

Banned
Obviously I second Panda on this being a town v town situation with Zee and Fat.

I'm not actually sure what Nomadic is on against Penguin in these last couple posts. I'm actually surprised Nomad is even in a back and forth.

I'm on mobile so slightly scattered but I feel like this is just a page of people voting for the sake of it because ynnny posted a vote count.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Obviously I second Panda on this being a town v town situation with Zee and Fat.

I'm not actually sure what Nomadic is on against Penguin in these last couple posts. I'm actually surprised Nomad is even in a back and forth.

I'm on mobile so slightly scattered but I feel like this is just a page of people voting for the sake of it because ynnny posted a vote count.

I know I am.
 

Fat4all

Banned
First off, I wanna apologize for being so flaky in general this game. I would try to explaine, but it’s a combination of outside-of-the-game issues that have kept my mind only half on this game for a while. Because of this, I can understand those voting for me for my inconsistent play and activity during the game so far. I would ask that you to trust me, though, when I ask to give me a second chance to fully throw myself back into the game. Second, my thinking on the last days events aligns with that of Giant Panda. I feel as if Scum is looking to get either Zee or myself lynched off of the results of the end of yesterday.

While I’m going to bed right now, I will be back 6 hours before the end of the day, so I’ll be doing as best I can do when I wake up in giving both reads and opinions to try and prove my worth more than I have so far. I won’t drop the ball anymore, promise.

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Sorian

Banned
I must have missed something because it's not obvious to me. Why?

Zee voters have pretty much all been sketchy with their reasoning of why he was ever of interest which has continued to read to me like lazy sheep mixed with scum going for an easy target.

Fat reads so painfully like town that doesn't have time for the game. He posts so infrequently but when he does, he actually puts out actual thoughts and reads (lol at the post above this one only serving as an excuse though). If he were scum, I feel like he'd be leaning harder into that crutch.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Zee voters have pretty much all been sketchy with their reasoning of why he was ever of interest which has continued to read to me like lazy sheep mixed with scum going for an easy target.

Fat reads so painfully like town that doesn't have time for the game. He posts so infrequently but when he does, he actually puts out actual thoughts and reads (lol at the post above this one only serving as an excuse though). If he were scum, I feel like he'd be leaning harder into that crutch.
I mean I voted for zee and I feel like I had reasoning behind it.

Also I don't think posting activity can really be indicative of alignment. Unless it's Kawl, who posts once per day and is therefore scum. But I mean I've been scum before and also had shit to do and have had to put all of my thoughts into a few meaningful posts.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Sorian, let me just ask

Do you think you would learn anything from a Fat flip? Scum or town? I feel like I would, but I'm curious what you think.
 

Sorian

Banned
I mean I voted for zee and I feel like I had reasoning behind it.

Also I don't think posting activity can really be indicative of alignment. Unless it's Kawl, who posts once per day and is therefore scum. But I mean I've been scum before and also had shit to do and have had to put all of my thoughts into a few meaningful posts.

And that's great that you do that but I'd put you in a pretty high category as a mafia player. On average, your typical scum doesn't sweat getting meaningful posts out when they have a spare moment. We've proven plenty of times that hiding in inactivity is a valid strat. I don't see Fat taking advantage at all which is why I'm leaning town.

Sorian, let me just ask

Do you think you would learn anything from a Fat flip? Scum or town? I feel like I would, but I'm curious what you think.

On it's own? No, I don't think a town flip would tell me a lot. Without seeing both Zee and Fat's exact alignment then a town flip on either would be very bare bones on assisting in reads. Obviously if he flipped scum, that's a ton of info since we'd then have a day where he was a wagon in contention.
 

*Splinter

Member
Zee voters have pretty much all been sketchy with their reasoning of why he was ever of interest which has continued to read to me like lazy sheep mixed with scum going for an easy target.
Fuck off with this Sorian it doesn't become true just because you keep repeating it. Zee pulled plenty of shit already. He opened day two pretending I was only interested in him because his name started with a Z ffs. You haven't even given a single reason that Zee is so obviously, just claimed the case against him is weak while voting out Kalor who was barely discussed.

Fat hasn't played scummy (which makes the apology odd imo) but is more implicated by the vote movements. When did "good townie play" become exclusive to town players? That shit is easy to fake and you know it, the idea that you'd ignore all of D2 based on some early town reads is completely farcical.




I think Fat is the best vote today as he's likely scum and provides a much better picture of D2 with his flip. Zeemumu could still be town or scum and his flip tells me less. Swamped is scummiest at a gut read level. But I still want to lynch Sorian for his (scum aligned) obstructionist bullshit.
 

*Splinter

Member
I didn't even realize we were so close to deadline.

I agree with Panda that Zee vs. Fat has monopolized discussion all day.

vote: Salvapot
Fuck this as well. I swear people just get bored of discussing the sensible options and jump on a random lynch that tells us nothing. Lynch Salva today and we repeat all this shit tomorrow, no thank you.

Hell he could flip scum and it'd barely advance the game.
 

*Splinter

Member
Fuck off with this Sorian it doesn't become true just because you keep repeating it. Zee pulled plenty of shit already. He opened day two pretending I was only interested in him because his name started with a Z ffs. You haven't even given a single reason that Zee is so obviously, just claimed the case against him is weak while voting out Kalor who was barely discussed.

Fat hasn't played scummy (which makes the apology odd imo) but is more implicated by the vote movements. When did "good townie play" become exclusive to town players? That shit is easy to fake and you know it, the idea that you'd ignore all of D2 based on some early town reads is completely farcical.




I think Fat is the best vote today as he's likely scum and provides a much better picture of D2 with his flip. Zeemumu could still be town or scum and his flip tells me less. Swamped is scummiest at a gut read level. But I still want to lynch Sorian for his (scum aligned) obstructionist bullshit.
*so obviously town
 

Sorian

Banned
Fuck off with this Sorian it doesn't become true just because you keep repeating it. Zee pulled plenty of shit already. He opened day two pretending I was only interested in him because his name started with a Z ffs. You haven't even given a single reason that Zee is so obviously, just claimed the case against him is weak while voting out Kalor who was barely discussed.

Fat hasn't played scummy (which makes the apology odd imo) but is more implicated by the vote movements. When did "good townie play" become exclusive to town players? That shit is easy to fake and you know it, the idea that you'd ignore all of D2 based on some early town reads is completely farcical.




I think Fat is the best vote today as he's likely scum and provides a much better picture of D2 with his flip. Zeemumu could still be town or scum and his flip tells me less. Swamped is scummiest at a gut read level. But I still want to lynch Sorian for his (scum aligned) obstructionist bullshit.

The boldest is my point exactly. This is the dumb shit that put Zee on trial. Go back and read the start of day 2 again. Tell me he really believed this and wasn't saying shit to be funny. The case against him makes no fucking sense from any angle and so many people are trying to push it for some reason. Wonder what that reason could be? I'm sure it's not scum trying to set up a patsy with the fuel that's already been thrown all over this.

As far as the rest, what would you like me to gather from day 2? That votes shifted at the end? And? That's par for the course in any mafia game. I'm skipping the next step of sitting here with our thumbs up our ass forcing us to lynch Fat and Zee next. If they are both town then the script just forces two more mislynches and for what? So you can check a point in terms of vote movement? Yeah, I'm not on board for it. The boogieman of "scum could have good townie play" is dumb too. No shit but I'm not going to go and lynch every town lean I have because they might be playing too good. I like to work from the weakest link up.

Fuck this as well. I swear people just get bored of discussing the sensible options and jump on a random lynch that tells us nothing. Lynch Salva today and we repeat all this shit tomorrow, no thank you.

Hell he could flip scum and it'd barely advance the game.

Also, I'm the obstructionist one but a scum flip would barely advance the game.

Ok.
 
I think I'm going with

vote: fat4all
VOTE: fat4all
I've been pretty highly in favour of lynching fat but I don't like either of these votes as they feel similar to the Kalor train yesterday. Scum wanting us to lynch fat is starting to become more convincing.

The Salva vote is weird, I think dusk is just trying to apply pressure to someone who's been coasting by without offering much in terms of opinion. Sadly that seems to apply to a lot of players, a good chunk of which would have to be town.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Fuck off with this Sorian it doesn't become true just because you keep repeating it. Zee pulled plenty of shit already. He opened day two pretending I was only interested in him because his name started with a Z ffs. You haven't even given a single reason that Zee is so obviously, just claimed the case against him is weak while voting out Kalor who was barely discussed.

Fat hasn't played scummy (which makes the apology odd imo) but is more implicated by the vote movements. When did "good townie play" become exclusive to town players? That shit is easy to fake and you know it, the idea that you'd ignore all of D2 based on some early town reads is completely farcical.




I think Fat is the best vote today as he's likely scum and provides a much better picture of D2 with his flip. Zeemumu could still be town or scum and his flip tells me less. Swamped is scummiest at a gut read level. But I still want to lynch Sorian for his (scum aligned) obstructionist bullshit.
Ok Splinter is town
 

acohrs

Member
I agree and disagree on the salva vote. Think it is good that we are moving away from zee, but not sure if salva is the best next target. Feels a bit kalor-esque.

Still would like a fatdog flip despite the apology to confirm if d2 was town v town v town in my mind.
 

SalvaPot

Member
I'll be honest, I haven't read anything yet, mostly because I've been absorbed reading haikyuu. I've been on page 2 since forever, so must of my reads are in the "Who is talking about me and how much do they love me" field.

I'll feel bad if I don't read the rest of the game and I get voted out tho, since I'll be a useless replacement... ugh, I'll read... tomorrow
 

Sorian

Banned
I'll be honest, I haven't read anything yet, mostly because I've been absorbed reading haikyuu. I've been on page 2 since forever, so must of my reads are in the "Who is talking about me and how much do they love me" field.

I'll feel bad if I don't read the rest of the game and I get voted out tho, since I'll be a useless replacement... ugh, I'll read... tomorrow

Keep in mind the day phase ends in like 13 hours.
 

CCS

Banned
I've been pretty highly in favour of lynching fat but I don't like either of these votes as they feel similar to the Kalor train yesterday. Scum wanting us to lynch fat is starting to become more convincing.

The Salva vote is weird, I think dusk is just trying to apply pressure to someone who's been coasting by without offering much in terms of opinion. Sadly that seems to apply to a lot of players, a good chunk of which would have to be town.

On mobile so I don't want to have to find day end, was Zeusy on the Kalor train? I know NS started it.
 
Fuck this as well. I swear people just get bored of discussing the sensible options and jump on a random lynch that tells us nothing. Lynch Salva today and we repeat all this shit tomorrow, no thank you.

Hell he could flip scum and it'd barely advance the game.
i. Lynching scum always advances the game for town. we only get so many mislynches to work with.

ii. Salva is scum. Why are we pretending otherwise.

Castemere started the lazy lynch train on Zipped and posted "helpful" vote counts to pad his vote count.

Next Salva claims he doesn't have time to read through the game, is still working through page 2, but is able to respond to a prod vote wthin minutes of it happening?

This is coasting scum 101.
 

acohrs

Member
i. Lynching scum always advances the game for town. we only get so many mislynches to work with.

ii. Salva is scum. Why are we pretending otherwise.

Castemere started the lazy lynch train on Zipped and posted "helpful" vote counts to pad his vote count.

Next Salva claims he doesn't have time to read through the game, is still working through page 2, but is able to respond to a prod vote wthin minutes of it happening?

This is coasting scum 101.

first good reason for the salvapot lynch, however, why salvapot? You could have used the same reasons here, bar the post by salvapot that he is still working his way through the posts that came after the vote, for a number of other players when you first posted the vote for salvapot.
 
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