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[Byakuya769]

Man, Kenyon thought he was about to be winning with that garbage take.

 

[Slayven]

My issue is the liberal use, which has become defacto by now. Mocking Costumes and yuppie restaurants with bullet holes are to be fairly criticized. No issue with that.

Here's another recent critique of the concept.

http://observer.com/2017/07/unpacki...-what-it-will-cost-us-media-robbie-robertson/

”Cultural appropriation, properly defined, is the exploitation or co-opting of a culture to which one has no rightful heritage. What does that look like in practice? Depending on who you talk to, it's Katy Perry wearing a kimono in her performance at the American Music Awards. It's Elvis popularizing black music and becoming obscenely rich in the process. According to one angry student in San Francisco, it can be growing your hair into dreadlocks. Just this year, a massive controversy in the art world reared up over whether a white painter could show a painting about the death of Emmett Til."

Unpacking the Absurd Logic of Cultural Appropriation—and What It Will Cost Us

Article is loaded and doesn't even really take on the concept.

Elvis should be able to turn black music into rock and roll, just as Rick Ross should be able to transcend his career as a correctional officer to take up any image he likes as a rapper, just as Idris Elba should be and could be a badass James Bond, just as Lin-Manuel Miranda is rightly lauded for doing whatever he wants with Alexander Hamilton

Really? Really?

What parallels are he drawing here?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

One of those nice threads where everyone is in agreement. Feels good man.

 

[Escape Goat]

kenyon's probably feeling like how he felt when he changed his lips tattoo

I can’t begin to understand how you look at yourself in the mirror and decide this is the look for you.

 

[entremet]

You called it one of the most ignorant theories to come out of academia.

It is as currently defined. The outright mocking aspect was something not part of its original concept. If you want to add it to it, there’s more nuance there.

 

[Heshinsi]

My issue is the liberal use, which has become defacto by now. Mocking Costumes and yuppie restaurants with bullet holes are to be fairly criticized. No issue with that.

Here’s another recent critique of the concept.

http://observer.com/2017/07/unpacki...-what-it-will-cost-us-media-robbie-robertson/

“Cultural appropriation, properly defined, is the exploitation or co-opting of a culture to which one has no rightful heritage. What does that look like in practice? Depending on who you talk to, it’s Katy Perry wearing a kimono in her performance at the American Music Awards. It’s Elvis popularizing black music and becoming obscenely rich in the process. According to one angry student in San Francisco, it can be growing your hair into dreadlocks. Just this year, a massive controversy in the art world reared up over whether a white painter could show a painting about the death of Emmett Til.”

What’s the difference between Katy Perry wearing a Kimono and Tyrese wearing this:

Neither clothing are part of either celeb’s culture, so why is one cultural appropriation and the other isn’t?

 

[Derwind]

You know, I somehow doubt Asian men are the group you look for in America for "reinvented" and "vogue" fashion. I really doubt Jeremy Lin has any mainstream social influence haha.

I was bringing up the cheif criticism of cultural appropriation from my own lens, I wasn't applying that to Lin.

 

[excelsiorlef]

My issue is the liberal use, which has become defacto by now. Mocking Costumes and yuppie restaurants with bullet holes are to be fairly criticized. No issue with that.

Here’s another recent critique of the concept.

http://observer.com/2017/07/unpacki...-what-it-will-cost-us-media-robbie-robertson/

“Cultural appropriation, properly defined, is the exploitation or co-opting of a culture to which one has no rightful heritage. What does that look like in practice? Depending on who you talk to, it’s Katy Perry wearing a kimono in her performance at the American Music Awards. It’s Elvis popularizing black music and becoming obscenely rich in the process. According to one angry student in San Francisco, it can be growing your hair into dreadlocks. Just this year, a massive controversy in the art world reared up over whether a white painter could show a painting about the death of Emmett Til.”

Wait you realize Elvis getting rich playing music created by black folk while those black folk struggled for pay and rights is like one of the most damning examples of CA at work right?

 

[Slayven]

What’s the difference between Katy Perry wearing a Kimono and Tyrese wearing this:

Neither clothing are part of either celeb’s culture, so why is one cultural appropriation and the other isn’t?

*Googles"

Tyrese Wears Arab Clothing Through LAX On His Way To Middle East

I see

 

[Zen Aku]

I'm siding with Jeremy on this one. I know i am bias because i think he is cute, but how many players in every sport have Chinese character tattooed on them? I never understand why people have a hard up on non-Black people with dreadlocks. I remember going to Japan for the first time and seeing a Japanese guy with dreadlocks and i thought that was pretty freaking cool. If any context my family is from the Caribbean, so seeing non-Black people with dreads is pretty cool.

You think every Asian guys is cute.

 

[norm9]

*Googles"



I see

Hahaha. This is a real feel good thread.

 

[freeofgreed]

Article is loaded and doesn't even really take on the concept.



Really? Really?

What parallels are he drawing here?

Yeah that article is pretty bad. Elvis' part in erasing rock and rolls' black roots is probably one of the best arguments against cultural appropriation you can make.

What's the difference between Katy Perry wearing a Kimono and Tyrese wearing this:

Neither clothing are part of either celeb's culture, so why is one cultural appropriation and the other isn't?

Who says that image isn't cultural appropriation lol? I'm sure most people who dislike the Katy Perry thing would also dislike this.

Edit: Oh so he actually had a valid reason to wear it. Even better lol.

 

[rokkerkory]

Great stuff Lin!

 

[gnomed]

Martin wasn't even on a court and got dunked on.

Hah. Keep it classy Lin. I wonder how kmart feels about Rich Chigga.

 

[number11]

damn.. he just opened himself up for that comeback

 

[Abstruse Moose]

What’s the difference between Katy Perry wearing a Kimono and Tyrese wearing this:

Neither clothing are part of either celeb’s culture, so why is one cultural appropriation and the other isn’t?

He looks so excited to be wearing that.

 

[LionPride]

Whoever brought up rich chigga, I hate him from name alone, cause I feel the same way about Chigga as I do wigger

 

[ghostofsparta]

Saving you a web search:

I think the biggest offense here is the hair on top + shaved sides, but I'm just an old guy yelling at a cloud so what do I know

 

[adamsappel]

Can someone translate those? Do they mean what he thinks they mean?

 

[Wallach]

kenyon's probably feeling like how he felt when he changed his lips tattoo

the fuck did he change it to, mother brain?

 

[norm9]

Whoever brought up rich chigga, I hate him from name alone, cause I feel the same way about Chigga as I do wigger

He's got regrets about it too.

From the New Yorker-

In an interview with The Fader, Imanuel called his handle “this ignorant ass name” and admitted, “I didn’t really know what I was doing and I definitely did not know people were gonna pop off like this.” Imanuel is regularly chastised on Twitter as a racist, but it’s hard to imagine that he would have been able to fully comprehend and negotiate the complicated racial and artistic politics of a different country on the other side of the globe, watching hip-hop videos on his laptop and learning English from YouTube. In response, Imanuel told me that he’s stopped using the N-word in his songs and has modified his approach to writing lyrics. “I’m trying to avoid writing about guns and killing people in the new songs,” he said. “I want to write from my own experience.”

 

[Vicetrailia]

Lin gets a pass on this, and everyone has Chinese tats, lol. Pass pass pass.

 

[Count Dookkake]

"these people"

 

[Takuan]

I think he looks ridiculous, but it's still an improvement from the Goku hair or whatever the fuck that was.

He also approaches it very respectfully. Dude has class.

K-Mart just being K-Mart. Still one of my favorite PF's.

 

[Desi]

Saving you a web search:

I think the biggest offense here is the hair on top + shaved sides, but I'm just an old guy yelling at a cloud so what do I know

I had that and my homeboy has that now. Like an earlier poster said, best hairstyle Lin had in a while.

 

[neojubei]

Saving you a web search:

looks good on him.

 

[cartographer]

Can someone translate those? Do they mean what he thinks they mean?

"I <3 Popcorn"

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Lins hairstyle reminds me of Yukis hairstyle, just with the sides shaved off-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747hJQNJpeg

It looks great on Lin btw.

 

[hollomat]

Lin is in the right. Kenyon is a complete idiot so not too surprising he’s wrong on this. As other people have noted it’s pretty shitty for the guy with Chinese tats to accuse Lin of cultural appropriation.

 

[Heshinsi]

He looks so excited to be wearing that.

*Googles"



I see

Yeah that article is pretty bad. Elvis' part in erasing rock and rolls' black roots is probably one of the best arguments against cultural appropriation you can make.



Who says that image isn't cultural appropriation lol? I'm sure most people who dislike the Katy Perry thing would also dislike this.

Edit: Oh so he actually had a valid reason to wear it. Even better lol.

I don’t care that he’s wearing it (I would never call it cultural appropriation, and it's too late to get pissy about non Arabs wearing Arab clothing due to Islam and how Muslims from all around the world have adopted them), I just want to know what the difference is? Is it because Katy was performing in one? Well Busta Rhymes made an entire song and music video about “Arab money” and dressed in Arabic clothing.

I think neither are cultural appropriation is what I’m saying, so I just want clarification why similar things are called out differently. The Elvis taking and profiting from black musicians when they themselves couldn’t do the same, is clear cut cultural appropriation to me.

 

[The Faceless Master]

kmart got dedded by jlin? lol

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Can someone translate those? Do they mean what he thinks they mean?

probably thinks "no pain no gain"

but it doesn't...

 

[ghostofsparta]

I had that and my homeboy has that now. Like an earlier poster said, best hairstyle Lin had in a while.

ridiculous, fade that shit for christs sake

 

[terencecah]

"rich chigga - glow like that" is p good

 

[Adam Sadler]

God damn at Jeremy Lins reply lmao

 

[cartographer]

I don’t care that he’s wearing it (I would never call it cultural appropriation, and it's too late to get pussy about non Arabs wearing Arab clothing due to Islam and how Muslims from all around the world have adopted them), I just want to know what the difference is? Is it because Katy was performing in one? Well Busta Rhymes made an entire song and music video about “Arab money” and dressed in Arabic clothing.

I think neither are cultural appropriation is what I’m saying, so I just want clarification why similar things are called out differently. The Elvis taking and profiting from black musicians when they themselves couldn’t do the same, is clear cut cultural appropriation to me.

One person was being sincere?

 

[ronaldthump]

Jeremy's response was all class. A+++

bonus points for #slay

 

[RedAssedApe]

the fuck did he change it to, mother brain?

lol a crown but i like your interpretation better

 

[CountAntonius]

LOL.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

JLin is also an avid Dora 2 player who goes to the annual International tournament and now owns a pro Dota 2 team.

Just FYI.

KMart stay losing.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

I was watching Brooklyn play Miami today amd saw Lin's hair. I kind of like it haha. He has been doing a lot of different styles the past couple seasons. That's pretty much all I have to add. Oh, the chinese tatoos line was ether too. Damn son.

 

[Usobuko]

Can someone translate those? Do they mean what he thinks they mean?

It's kinda a zen saying in mandarin.

Huo de huo shi.

Basically have a zen like mentality of whether you get something or not. "As it comes" sort of.

There's a few interpretation perhaps but this is the closest for me.

 

[shintoki]

Can someone translate those? Do they mean what he thinks they mean?

Pain and suffering can be exchanged for pleasure

 

[Heshinsi]

One person was being sincere?

You know you are right. I had thought Katy dressed up in that outfit at a concert in Japan, not opening the god damn American Music Awards. Nah fuck that. As I said, I have no problem with Tyrese wearing our clothing, so I had thought Katy was in Japan performing and wore something to tie into the Japanese leg of a tour.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

Martin being a dickhead.

Nigga ain't wrong though.

 

[Randy Monk]

Damn, Kmart got shut down.

 

[Rentahamster]

I remember going to Japan for the first time and seeing a Japanese guy with dreadlocks and i thought that was pretty freaking cool.

You saw Tak Fujii?

 

[necrosis]

Cultural appropriation remains among the most historical ignorant theories to come out of academia.

Almost every major cultural artifact is appropriated in some sense, from Tea to Numerical systems.

you're out of your depth

it probably gets tossed around too often, but it's absolutely valid and often something needs to be addressed

things like native american headdresses are used for costume parties and lose almost all of their original meaning. and then there are symbols like the swastika and nordic runes

 

[cartographer]

You know you are right. I had thought Katy dressed up in that outfit at a concert in Japan, not opening the god damn American Music Awards. Nah fuck that. As I said, I have no problem with Tyrese wearing our clothing, so I had thought Katy was in Japan performing and wore something to tie into the Japanese leg of a tour.

Given she has a history of tone deaf moments along the same lines, surely you can see how it's hard to take that in good faith?

Isn't there another way to "honor" Japan than to dress up as a geisha? Is that seen as a sign of respect? I don't know where Tyrese was travelling, and even if I did I don't know how that would be received among the people there. Would it be received as a sign of respect or thoughtfulness?

 

[CountAntonius]

Kmart newest response


"It was a joke..but i don't like it."