Also going for buzzwords like "the mainstream left" "you can't turn a meme into a nazi symbol" and using "at least I'm not as bad as Richard Spencer" as a defense. Sure, maybe you're not actually a nazi, but you've said some pretty shitty things and spending 21 minutes defending your usage of said shitty things and Sam Hyde isn't where you wanna be if you're truly as compassionate and leftist as you claim to be. Just take the L and strive to do better.
Can I get a summary of the video.
I make it a general rule not to invest 20+ minutes listening to people ramble for anything but entertainment or serious information of which this dude offers none
The bolded is meaningless jesus, GW Bush is arguably not as bad as Richard Spencer.... that doesn't make GW Bush good in anyway
It also doesn't mean GW Bush is an alt-right sympathizer, which the Fader article tries to characterize Fantano as. Where you think he's a good guy or not is up to you, but the article weakly tries to make Fantano out to be something he's objectively not.
You guys have a literal alt-right sympathizer in the White House and you think this guys memes are doing damage.
If you aren't at least willing to take a mere 20 minutes listen to the accused person's defense and rebuttal, why bother engaging in the conversation?Can I get a summary of the video.
I make it a general rule not to invest 20+ minutes listening to people ramble for anything but entertainment or serious information of which this dude offers none
It also doesn't mean GW Bush is an alt-right sympathizer, which the Fader article tries to characterize Fantano as. Where you think he's a good guy or not is up to you, but the article weakly tries to make Fantano out to be something he's objectively not.
You guys have a literal alt-right sympathizer in the White House and you think this guys memes are doing damage.
It's absolutely hilarious that people actually accused melon of being legitimately alt-right. How could you watch the videos on thatistheplan and actually come to that conclusion?
Fader published a misinformed hit piece and Anthony Fantano defended himself quite well.
If you aren't at least willing to take a mere 20 minutes listen to the accused person's defense and rebuttal, why bother engaging in the conversation?
Yeah, it's because of thatWhy is he called Melon? I thought they were just making fun of his head in comments sections from his reviews.
Watched the Fantano response. Dude is basically 99% liberal and NeoGAF is trying to kill him because he is not 100% liberal.
This site is becoming extreme.
i like how he still refers to sargon of akkad as a political commentator and says that he's not all that bad and not alt right because he doesn't like how they talk about jewish people
Watched the Fantano response. Dude is basically 99% liberal and NeoGAF is trying to kill him because he is not 100% liberal.
This site is becoming extreme.
It's sort of baffling how unreasonable some posters on here can be.
Guilty until proven innocent.
If you aren't at least willing to take a mere 20 minutes listen to the accused person's defense and rebuttal, why bother engaging in the conversation?
Watched the Fantano response. Dude is basically 99% liberal and NeoGAF is trying to kill him because he is not 100% liberal.
This site is becoming extreme.
Yeah the Fader article was horseshit.
And lmao at those fucking cherry picked/out-of-context screengrabs.
Seems like the author must have had a major grudge.
Yeah I think the rest of his defense is reasonable except for that, and how he brushes off the amazing athiest part.
Have you actually read the thread and seen why people weren't happy with him?
Because those issues really weren't addressed in the video.
So what the article actually proved is that Anthony Fantano is not a comedian, because those videos are terribly unfunny if they're supposed to be satire. Not in that they're inappropriate or anything, they're legitimately bad jokes.
Watched the Fantano response. Dude is basically 99% liberal and NeoGAF is trying to kill him because he is not 100% liberal.
This site is becoming extreme.
So what the article actually proved is that Anthony Fantano is not a comedian, because those videos are terribly unfunny if they're supposed to be satire. Not in that they're inappropriate or anything, they're legitimately bad jokes.
I think he adequately defended himself. I thought the Fader article was trash to begin with, and I still continue to think so.
After watching the video, all 20 minutes, he's definitely a Nazi.
You've been in this thread since day 1 talking about this guy, watch the video.
I mean, if your conclusion is that he's definitely a Nazi, I don't really want to watch a Nazi's video.
I mean, if your conclusion is that he's definitely a Nazi, I don't really want to watch a Nazi's video.
I mean, he's probably not. But he sure wasn't losing sleep at night profiting from them.
He addressed it once by saying someone called him that in the comments once and it just stuck because ot seemed like such a dumb and flippant insult.Why is he called Melon? I thought they were just making fun of his head in comments sections from his reviews.
You sound like my racist step-Dad trying to pretend he thinks rap music is racist.Let's say it together class:
Racist.satire.is.still.racist
There's.no.context.that.makes.racism.alright
That makes no sense. How can you be genuinely liberal and genuinely, knowingly a white supremacist? Those principals fundamentally contradict each other.Because 20 minutes of him "debunking" is unnecessary in this situation? Regardless of context or jokes, he used shitty imagery that can be construed as hurtful and got called out on it. Taking the L and moving on and trying to do better is the right move. He's not repentant at all, instead he's going on the offensive, and in some pretty dumb ways at parts.
So the defense of the person in question is deemed "unnecessary" because you don't approve of the production style of the video? Even though he provides more than enough information and context in his defense?
Actually, he was called out for being affiliated with the alt-right, essentially being labeled a white racist, which is unfounded. His imagery if hurtful to whom exactly? To people that lack self-awareness and a sense of irony?
Why would he take the L and have his name and reputation slandered on the grounds of false accusations? That is absurd.
Yes, because complaining about the "mainstream left media", defending sam hyde and "at least i'm not richard spencer" are 99% liberal.
You can be liberal, yet still be a piece of shit white supremacist who is unrepentant about making racist ass memes.
Thank goodness!The Jew pic is negligible.Why are people still saying he was creating racist memes? Did you even watch his response video?
The images, that supposedly evoked the past of black people being lynched, have no such meaning on their own nor did they in context of his videos. The connection was weak in the article and is just as weak from the people parroting it here. The image of the stereotypical Jew was the only legitimate point of criticism.
It's weird that you need to read an article to figure youtuber who's videos you watched (for a while?) is alt-right.
So the defense of the person in question is deemed "unnecessary" because you don't approve of the production style of the video? Even though he provides more than enough information and context in his defense?Because 20 minutes of him "debunking" is unnecessary in this situation? Regardless of context or jokes, he used shitty imagery that can be construed as hurtful and got called out on it. Taking the L and moving on and trying to do better is the right move. He's not repentant at all, instead he's going on the offensive, and in some pretty dumb ways at parts.
Yes, because complaining about the "mainstream left media", defending sam hyde and "at least i'm not richard spencer" are 99% liberal.
You can be liberal, yet still be a piece of shit white supremacist who is unrepentant about making racist ass memes.
You sound like my racist step-Dad trying to pretend he thinks rap music is racist.
His dumb videos arent fucking satire.
There's no ironic racism though.SATIRE. IS. WHEN. YOURE. RACIST. BUT. IRONICALLY.
fuck this guy and everyone he courts and associates with cont., if yall hadn't realised that this is what he is and these are the people he wants to be around until now then I don't really know what to say. The Fader article wasn't saying anything new about the guy, this is what he's been. Get off the fucking train, you don't need to defend him.
Yah that wasn't good, though people might not want to accept it as "just a mistake."The only notable point of the article that Anthony didn't address was the image of the Jew stereotype. That was fucking disgusting that he used the image at all even if it's specific usage wasn't to denigrate Jews.
But yeah. I'd like to be generous and say that he didn't completely destroy that article, but he sort of did.
It's not hard.After posting nazi memes, going on the "it's a hit piece" defense for 21 minutes instead of just going "regardless of the context, I'm sorry for causing hurt and will try to do better" is not a good look.
Also going for buzzwords like "the mainstream left" "you can't turn a meme into a nazi symbol" and using "at least I'm not as bad as Richard Spencer" as a defense. Sure, maybe you're not actually a nazi, but you've said some pretty shitty things and spending 21 minutes defending your usage of said shitty things and Sam Hyde isn't where you wanna be if you're truly as compassionate and leftist as you claim to be. Just take the L and strive to do better.
I mean, if your conclusion is that he's definitely a Nazi, I don't really want to watch a Nazi's video.
Why are people still saying he was creating racist memes? Did you even watch his response video?
The images, that supposedly evoked the past of black people being lynched, have no such meaning on their own nor did they in context of his videos. The connection was weak in the article and is just as weak from the people parroting it here. The image of the stereotypical Jew was the only legitimate point of criticism.
There's no ironic racism though.
Yah that wasn't good, though people might not want to accept it as "just a mistake."
He could have labeled it as a mistake/wrong, and then mention his 4:44 review where he called out what he viewed to be stereotyping/anti-Semitic rhetoric towards Jews in a line.