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An important statement from Naughty Dog
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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Liliana Eileen
Member
Riiiiiight. Yet multiple other people have said the same thing in response to David. They're lying, right?
With something as serious as this they needed to release a statement ASAP
CaptainKashup
Neo Member
You know, ND is a pretty big company, and Sony is even bigger.
It might be possible, for ND at least, that they really didn't had any clues.
It might be possible, for ND at least, that they really didn't had any clues.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Proving or disproving harrassment is something that is really hard, because most of the time, there just isn't any evidence.
Lys Skygge
Member
Surly the accuser could provide the evidence of his complaint? There must have been some sort of email correspondence he had saved.
LordOfLore
Banned
Did the allegations get sent to Sony instead of ND?
Well it's something you want to get out in front of fast.
But like I said in the other thread. Unless the person has proof and if he ever did I hope he kept it. Then it's going to be a bit tough. Who was notified? Did he go to ND first or did he just go to HR etc.
CalamityPixel
Member
If Dave Ballard posts evidence now Sony and ND are gonna look like trash
This isn't about there being no signs of sexual harassment. What they said is that they have no record of him making such allegations in the first place, which imo, is a more serious denial.
The statement they put out spoke clearly for both. So...
Permanently A
Junior Member
I can only hope Dave saved voicemails or emails or something.
ShemhazaiX
Member
No, they said they don't have any evidence.
Edit: in other words, he may have spoken to HR off the record and was let go for different reasons on the books.
Yoshimitsu126
Member
Ballard wrote those tweets in the other thread right? Did he disclaim them afterwards? Not sure what ND means about not receiving allegations.
The thing is most of the recent sexual assault accusations in the news don't include any evidence, just the accusers account of the violation.
Which seems to be enough to out people
Astral Dog
Member
Plot thickens, but i still believe David until this is confirmed false.
Yes.
didnt he say that sony fired him the day after he went to hr to file a complaint? so, if the complaint was never filed...there are no records.
Hopefully the accuser has more than just a story because this is the kind of stonewall PR statement you're going to get in these cases...basically implying that the accuser is a liar. Neither ND or Sony want to be liable for a sexual harassment scandal in this climate so they want to nip this immediately.
Maybe if we had actually effective journalists they could help out here.
Maybe if we had actually effective journalists they could help out here.
Bits N Pieces
Member
This could potentially get very messy for all parties, unfortunately 
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Do yall read what yall wanna read or what. Shit they didnt even deny it just said they have no evidence of it and of it comes out they did than thats when the problems are gonna start
funkystudent
Member
I am sure they totally put in the time, over the weekend noless, to really find out what happened and where quickly able to get to the bottom of it in less then 24 hours
(Sarcasm)
(Sarcasm)
entremet
Member
No. It' a very legally couched statement. All it says they haven't found evidence.
Naked Snake
Member
This will be gud.
CaptainKashup
Neo Member
Yeah, that's an issue. I didn't really understood that since I'm not that fluent in English, but I get it now. I'm pretty disappointed in ND.
I just want to say, I am not picking sides and I have NO facts whatsoever about the situation.
However, I have worked as an employment discrimination attorney for a while. And it's not at all uncommon for a disgruntled former employee to make up claims of sexual harassment.
I want to add this disclaimer in bold - sexual harassment does occur and it's, unfortunately, all too common in every industry.
However, none of us should draw any conclusions based on what little we know about the situation. It may have happened. But it may not have happened. Naughty Dog and Sony absolutely need to investigate the allegations if they have not already done so.
However, I have worked as an employment discrimination attorney for a while. And it's not at all uncommon for a disgruntled former employee to make up claims of sexual harassment.
I want to add this disclaimer in bold - sexual harassment does occur and it's, unfortunately, all too common in every industry.
However, none of us should draw any conclusions based on what little we know about the situation. It may have happened. But it may not have happened. Naughty Dog and Sony absolutely need to investigate the allegations if they have not already done so.
RecRoulette
Member
Surprised that Naughty Dog would also speak for SIE.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Hoping for some evidence to surface then
Bits N Pieces
Member
They haven't found evidence of the allegation, which actually ramps this whole episode up considerably.
KneehighPark
Member
Note to future self: secretly record all conversations with HR.
Leyasu
Banned
ND got their very own police and forensics department.
No.
Nights Owl
Member
Assuming his recollection of events were accurate, he should still have some sort of paperwork or email or something regarding it I'd hope. I believe him fully, and I want this shitty PR of "Deny it hard" to blow back into their face. Jesus fucking Christ, how low can a company go.
They can both be telling the truth.
Whoever was in HR at both companies could very easily of decided not to document it. Both Sony and Naughty Dog need to continue the investigation and not leave this as the issue being settled. I hope Ballard kept the letter they presented him, although it's quite possible they only verbally informed them of their intent.
So, I also hope that if Ballard can't produce documentation, that people don't immediately discount his story.
I always recommend and tell my employees that if they want to document something, e-mail HR regarding it and forward it to yourself. It's still possible that the company won't create an official report on the incident, but then you'll have proof that the person responsible in the company DID actually receive your complaint, regardless if they did the right thing or not.
Whoever was in HR at both companies could very easily of decided not to document it. Both Sony and Naughty Dog need to continue the investigation and not leave this as the issue being settled. I hope Ballard kept the letter they presented him, although it's quite possible they only verbally informed them of their intent.
So, I also hope that if Ballard can't produce documentation, that people don't immediately discount his story.
I always recommend and tell my employees that if they want to document something, e-mail HR regarding it and forward it to yourself. It's still possible that the company won't create an official report on the incident, but then you'll have proof that the person responsible in the company DID actually receive your complaint, regardless if they did the right thing or not.