Primethius
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That's a very corporate denial that doesn't really tell us all that much.
I agree. It also completely ignores the allegations that he was terminated following his complaint. It's not addressed at all, because to address that would be to draw attention to the possibility that HR did not do a proper job. Instead they're putting this out to try and defuse the sexual misconduct angle which is the hot topic at the moment.
So now we wait for the evidence to surface.
Why did anyone expect that there was a paper trail? If the allegation that Sony paid him off 20$K to shut up, you better believe any records ever made of the inccident have been burned a long time ago.
$20K is a lot of money to not leave a trail behind.Not if you're trying to cover your own ass? Could've been a verbal agreement that was never formalized since he never took it.
Cases like these are so complex since proof is practically impossible to provide.
Why did anyone expect that there was a paper trail? If the allegation that Sony paid him off 20$K to shut up, you better believe any records ever made of the inccident have been burned a long time ago. You don't spend 20K to shut up someone without cleaning up the rest of the shit.
This number still doesn't make sense to me because it's way too low for an attempted payoff to avoid a larger lawsuit.Not if there was a severance offer or a pay off offer of $20k, there has to be a trail for that surely?
$20K is a lot of money to not leave a trail behind.
$20K is a lot of money to not leave a trail behind.
$20K is a lot of money to not leave a trail behind.
Just ND? They're also speaking for the entirety of SCE
They don't have to burn anything. They just never have to put in anything in writing. HR knows this.
$20K is a lot of money to not leave a trail behind.
This number still doesn't make sense to me because it's way too low for an attempted payoff to avoid a larger lawsuit.
Perhaps the HR person was going to do this out of his/her own pocket.
They actually have to put everything in writing, and are trained by armies of lawyers to do so.
Riiiiiight. Yet multiple other people have said the same thing in response to David. They're lying, right?
What a mess. I'd like to hear Naughty Dog's explanation for his firing then.
at the very least, a call log should exist to hr a day before he was terminated
We don't know and I doubt we ever will.The agreement was an offer. You don't need to make paperwork for that. If he took, yes you will need paperwork. But look at this, if he took it, he could never speak about it. He was trapped because he was unaware of the corporate game.
He got played sadly.
I think people need to actually read what is being said here...
- YES, its a "very corporate" response...ND is part of a corporation
- NO, this is not a denial that the allegations are true
- NO, it is not ND saying they have a police dept and foresics team that has conducted a thorough investigation.
- YES, this is ND saying they went back in their HR records to look for any official documentation of a complaint.
- YES, this is ND saying they have no record of a complaint being filed
its POSSIBLE ND are just flat out lying...but thats a bold strategy on their part...its also POSSIBLE that an HR employee never documented the complaint, which means ND would have no record of the complaint...its also possible that a complaint was never filed through official channels, which means ND would not have records of it...
there are TONS of possibilities as to what happened...but all this statement says is, we looked through our records, and didnt find an official complaint
I think people need to actually read what is being said here...
- YES, its a "very corporate" response...ND is part of a corporation
- NO, this is not a denial that the allegations are true
- NO, it is not ND saying they have a police dept and foresics team that has conducted a thorough investigation.
- YES, this is ND saying they went back in their HR records to look for any official documentation of a complaint.
- YES, this is ND saying they have no record of a complaint being filed
its POSSIBLE ND are just flat out lying...but thats a bold strategy on their part...its also POSSIBLE that an HR employee never documented the complaint, which means ND would have no record of the complaint...its also possible that a complaint was never filed through official channels, which means ND would not have records of it...
there are TONS of possibilities as to what happened...but all this statement says is, we looked through our records, and didnt find an official complaint
Not that I think hes lying, but this guy definitely has a motive to lie.Well, I'm not sure what I expected from ND :/. I believe two former employees have said they were sexually harassed, I'd like to think they weren't lying because they really wouldn't gain anything from it, and had potentially a lot more to lose. Anyways, we'll see where this goes and hopefully we get a happy ending :/.
We don't know and I doubt we ever will.
The agreement was an offer. You don't need to make paperwork for that. If he took, yes you will need paperwork. But look at this, if he took it, he could never speak about it. He was trapped because he was unaware of the corporate game.
He got played sadly.
"we take these allegations seriously and are publicly stating that we don't believe the victim less than a day after he made them."
Corroboration from others is the best evidence. Did he tell anyone else at the time? Are there others with similar stories?
Sorry, but right now, there is a mere allegation. It lacks specificity, evidence, and corroboration. That doesn't make it false, but it does make it irresponsible to treat it as presumptively true.
It's just ND and SCE and they did it over a Saturday night/Sunday morning, when they were surely firing on all cylinders.
He said it himself. He was made redundant. Position no longer required.
Like I said in the other thread, if he didn't make a formal complaint in writing then there will be no evidence unfortunately.
A public facing company isnt going to admit liability if they dont think they have any. Surely you wouldnt expect otherwise?"we take these allegations seriously and are publicly stating that we don't believe the victim less than a day after he made them."