I assume you mean the spirit of oppressive far-left fanaticism?Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Yeah, that other forum getting a black theme is truly the final nail in the coffin.
Everyone too excited to proclaim "the king is dead."
It'll pick up one day, and 2019 will roll around and people will wonder why GAF didn't die even after its golden members left
More focused insofar as if you want to spend any decent amount of time reading GAF you have to reread the same posts 4 or 5 times just to fill fifteen minutes, sure. Or even more focused as in people are focused on pretending that the site is better off now. Or even so focused that people have tunnel vision and totally forgot that Blizzcon exists or that there are things to talk about.I cant sign up for email reasons. Just means I have to wait it out and see if neogaf is still worth posting on in 6 months.
Edit: also kinda hoping the currently small community means a more focused discussion when it comes to gaming, it seems to be doing alright
I assume you mean the spirit of oppressive far-left fanaticism?
Well, that spirit you speak of was a bit toxic for my tastes.Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Exactly, why would I follow the shitty part of Gaf to some knock off site thats taking this opportunity to to line its own member count.
And yet, even if there are tons of alts on Era (I pretty much call bullshit on that), it's still 10x more active than here. Fucking pathetic.I mean they took 25K posters and a few over and who knows how many of those are alts. I mean not even they do because their IP tracking system in XenForo is broken. So people have multiple alts.
I know someone who has 12 alts. Not joking. People stockpile those 100% they do.
Not trying to say everyone does but a good chunk do.
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Well, that spirit you speak of was a bit toxic for my tastes.
Also i don't see a good reason as to why jump ship.
And yet, even if there are tons of alts on Era (I pretty much call bullshit on that), it's still 10x more active than here. Fucking pathetic.
It'll pick up in due time when more members get approved. Just whether the storm.
So they didn't have to close down the Donna Brazile thread and restart it?The moderation over there is transparent with explanations for each warning and ban post visible to all and I haven't seen any cases where the discussion turns one-sided or mean-spirited. That's hardly toxic.
But it's far easier for everyone to just stigmatize the other side as a far-left boogieman, I'm sure
So they didn't have to close down the Donna Brazile thread and restart it?
1. I call bullshit on these baseless hyperbolic assumptions, which you reached anecdotallyNot really bullshit it's literally being echo'd by all the alt forums that ERA is being targeted by that they have alts on the site. You don't understand the length these people go to fuck with sites/people.
There is probably maybe a good 4000 alt accounts on ERA without a doubt.
Less approvals actually and more just all of them being Juniors.
The moderation over there is transparent with explanations for each warning and ban post visible to all and I haven't seen any cases where the discussion turns one-sided or mean-spirited. That's hardly toxic.
But it's far easier for everyone to just stigmatize the other side as a far-left boogieman, I'm sure
1. I call bullshit on these baseless hyperbolic assumptions, which you reached anecdotally
2. That still doesn't account for the level of activity. I mean, if it's the same posters posting from all kinds of alts, dedicating hours to write out long posts directed at their other own alts, and having a discussion... Well kudos to them!
On the other hand, what I have personally witnessed, is a concerted effort by many prominent ex community members and personalities who coordinated the exodus externally (Twitter, discord, etc) and it seemingly worked. Plus they got decent positive coverage by journalists and gaming outlets. Give credit when it's due.
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
The first sentence doesn't reflect what was many here state was going on, the second one is something hard to disagree with.
You are mixing different things here. I was talking about myself, stating that it was insider information that I was about (perhaps weekly reports as well) that I was after, moderation didn't matter to me.
Whether its mods who where bringing insider contents, I don't know, it's not something I'm arguing about.
There was a thread where junior member was banned for stating that black are better boxers.
It was racist, he was told. I asked for explanation why scientifically provable (I wasn't sure about boxing, but in light athletics among men black race is dominant for clear biological reasons) non-controversial statement is considered racist. My post was simply ignored.
Gotta separate the minority views from the contrarian views. Also, this ain't a bastion of free speech, either. That said, OT was purged, but I had a bookmarked link to a mod post explaining how conservative ideology is antithetical to the GAF population. That was an alarming thing to say coming from a moderator....
I just came across the tweets you included in post #415 of this thread, and some other RE related tweets you posted. I think you went off the deep end by being too invested. And based on that, I don't think there's any point to having a conversation about anything related to the subject matter. I hope you move on one day.Lol they aren't posting back and forth at themselves, I mean you'll see people padding those alts by just posting once in a thread, and leaving not staying for a conversation things like that. Most of the active users will not be alts obviously, but there are alts on there and a good amount of them too.
Sure putting any new forum against neogaf is gonna be positive nothings happened on the other forum yet. It also barely worked lmao, the launch at least on the backend of the forum was rushing to get everything done last minute (except that sweet sweet dark theme/mobile)
But Kudos to getting the site up in time even if they missed 3 deadlines.
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
I just came across the tweets you included in post #415 of this thread, and some other RE related tweets you posted. I think went off the deep end by being too invested. And based on that, I don't think there's any point to have a conversation about anything related to this subject matter. I hope you move on one day.
You feel slighted by the site creators. Therefore the subjectivity of your thoughts on the site's performance is questionable... Just my 2 cents.Ok I guess? Not sure why my tweets have anything to do with the subject matter of what I'm talking about.
Oh yeah no question, still they have a rocky road ahead of them after seeing how crazy some people went with their ban requests I mean damn hard pressed to say anything of unreplaceable value was lost. It's gonna be nutty here also but from what were already hearing about the other forum I'm pretty ok with just chilling here.I mean they took 25K posters and a few over and who knows how many of those are alts. I mean not even they do because their IP tracking system in XenForo is broken. So people have multiple alts.
I know someone who has 12 alts. Not joking. People stockpile those 100% they do.
Not trying to say everyone does but a good chunk do.
I have no real attachment to Gaf and if it really no longer operates as a strong source of news ill drop it. However, the incredibly obnoxious and childish behavior of everyone that left is a turnoff. Gaf right now is probably the least hostile it's been since ive joined so i dont mind sticking around and seeing if the ship can right itself.
Not really bullshit it's literally being echo'd by all the alt forums that ERA is being targeted by that they have alts on the site. You don't understand the length these people go to fuck with sites/people.
There is probably maybe a good 4000 alt accounts on ERA without a doubt.
You feel slighted by the site creators. Therefore the subjectivity of your thoughts on the site's performance is questionable... Just my 2 cents.
Yes, because you also didn't want to hear some opinions (most of them outright hostile, I admit).Okay, seems like I did.
This would be a very difficult subject to weigh in on. There is a reason Blacks go for athletics and are dominant in athletics and it isn't all to do with genetics.
Also it would depend on how he said it. Saying "Blacks are better boxers" is racist because not every Black is a better boxer or even a boxer at all. Same would be if I said "Asians are smart" or "White people can't jump". Majority of Blacks do not box, are not runners, do not play pro-football, etc. As said above, there is a very big reason why Blacks are steered to athletics.
I mean sure the site creators might have done something wrong and I don't like how it was handled in anyway at all.
But I can talk about the sites performance easily without bias, I know the behind the scenes info I have been given, and what I'm talking about.
Yes, because you also didn't want to hear some opinions (most of them outright hostile, I admit).
One by one:
1) "Blacks are better boxers" (I am not sure, if this is factually true) and "all blacks are better boxers" is not the same statement.
2) There is a reason blacks are steered to athletics IN US.
3) There is a reason 100m sprint only among males is dominated by black athletes (not necessarily from US, current champion is from Jamaica). There are notable differences between legs of black and white males, which lead to that. Note how it isn't the case among females.
Statements about brain functions is something totally different and understandably taboo.
All that might be very arguable, but banning junior member who is asking questions, instead of talking to him/her, is not right..
Ok, well let me just venture into US PoliERA 2017 hangout.I didn't see that one. Even then, that's just an example of good moderation.
Ok, well let me just venture into US PoliERA 2017 hangout.
I'm sure I'll find all sorts of political discussions with every side fairly represented in there and it won't just be another Democrat cheerleading echo-chamber the likes of which we see in the daily "Trump's so stupid/evil/mean/racist" threads that constantly populate the OT form there...
Oh wait.
You sure you can speak without bias with the statements you been making?
..and judging by that thread that would be any not coming from the Democrats.Mods there cracked down on even insulting Trump in a personal manner, sooooo.
And no... not "every side" will be or should be fairly represented there. Some beliefs/ideologies do not deserve the light of day or a second of time spent responding to it.
Back when Neogaf first came back online and Evilore revealed the statement, my plan was to be a cross poster on both forums.Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Lol they aren't posting back and forth at themselves, I mean you'll see people padding those alts by just posting once in a thread, and leaving not staying for a conversation things like that. Most of the active users will not be alts obviously, but there are alts on there and a good amount of them too.
Sure putting any new forum against neogaf is gonna be positive nothings happened on the other forum yet. It also barely worked lmao, the launch at least on the backend of the forum was rushing to get everything done last minute (except that sweet sweet dark theme/mobile)
But Kudos to getting the site up in time even if they missed 3 deadlines.
Just curious as to the reasons people have for not moving to the new forum. The spirit of the community that I joined years ago is there now and I have no reason to be here anymore.
Not trying to be inflammatory but want to know why some people don't want to jump ship?
Even if the other forum is active and others have apologized for that behavior, first impressions matter to me.
GAF now is no longer oppressive to moderate voices. It was horrible seeing people banned if they didn't advocate violence even against people I don't like.
You know what makes Gaf great now? Constant bitterness over the old posters who left and bitching about how the new place sucks.
Ok, well let me just venture into US PoliERA 2017 hangout.
I'm sure I'll find all sorts of political discussions with every side fairly represented in there and it won't just be another Democrat cheerleading echo-chamber the likes of which we see in the daily "Trump's so stupid/evil/mean/racist" threads that constantly populate the OT form there...
Oh wait.
What about the first impression GAF made when it came back online and it was filled with right wing voices rejoicing at the death of the "SJW Snowflake Echo-chamber" and other nasty shit...that's cool yeah?
You should actually have a look and see for yourself. Lots of moderate and right leaning views over there that aren't being silenced unless they're abrasive and not arguing in good faith...and the same warnings and bans are being handed out to left leaning folk as well. And we can see this information due to how transparent it is now.