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[GrizzleBoy]

Just another reminder that many people simply went to the forum that hadn't proposed to ban all political and social discourse and wasnt treating OT and it's many many different communities, archives of posts and interests, as sacrificial scapegoats.

 

[llien]

a lot of what is left is on the right wing end of the spectrum

Depends on the definition of "right wing", I guess:

Political Compass Off-Topic 2018: I'll show you mine if you show me yours

 

[EviLore]

Just another reminder that many people simply went to the forum that hadn't proposed to ban all political and social discourse and wasnt treating OT and it's many many different communities, archives of posts and interests, as sacrificial scapegoats.

???

 

[J Bro]

???

He must be mad that he can't get some people together to send death threats to Palmer Luckey and his girlfriend, or whoever else, anymore here.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Just another reminder that many people simply went to the forum that hadn't proposed to ban all political and social discourse and wasnt treating OT and it's many many different communities, archives of posts and interests, as sacrificial scapegoats.

I know you didn't mean this to be funny, but it is to me.

You are right tho from what I've heard. They don't ban all political discussion, just the ones who disagree. No worries we been there lol.

People decided to leave because they felt they were the moral police and knew how people should act. They then decided to show how mature and superior they were by acting immature and trashing the site in a childish fit.

People also decided to leave because those mature and superior people decided to trash the site in a childish fit.

People also left because social Gaf were shitheads.

Theres actually a lot to what happened. But if you want to put all blame 100% on Evilore and Mods I can't stop you.

 

[Corronchilejano]

That's true. It was more purge-like when they were here getting everyone else banned.

First Evilore has always been the site owner, he hasn't left, and it was all done under his own supervision, so don't just blame it all on who are no longer here. Second, I managed to not get banned, maybe because I wasn't trying to push anyone's buttons nor openly going against site rules. Did you get banned before? Because there's a bit of spite in your posts.

Some decided to leave. Others decided to act like cunts and try and burn the place down and destroy the site.

That was immature at best and personally the worst part of the whole ordeal.

 

[J Bro]

maybe because I wasn't trying to push anyone's buttons nor openly going against site rules. Did you get banned before? Because there's a bit of spite in your posts.

There was a lot of spite when the undesirables left from everyone around the internet. Because they were fucking crazy.

 

[Corronchilejano]

There was a lot of spite when the undesirables left from everyone around the internet. Because they were fucking crazy.

Posts like these is why people believe GAF went from far left to far right. Where you banned before?

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Posts like these is why people believe GAF went from far left to far right. Where you banned before?

People think that because they are misinformed

 

[RokkanStoned]

I've found an easy way to summarize GAF. We're about here after EoE.

Now get in that fucking robot!

 

[Papa]

Posts like these is why people believe GAF went from far left to far right. Where you banned before?

What about that post is “far right”?

 

[jufonuk]

I am liking this new GAF.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

???

Some left because they just didn’t like that as soon as GAF came back online, all political and social discourse would be going to be banned, the OT threads people put time and effort into would be nuked or the feeling of falling under a bus/being scapegoats.

It wasn’t all about the initial controversy to everyone, is what I’m saying.

Framing it as such and lumping people all together like so many are doing in this thread isn’t the whole truth.

He must be mad that he can't get some people together to send death threats to Palmer Luckey and his girlfriend, or whoever else, anymore here.

Oookay.

Maybe you replied to the wrong person?

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Some left because they just didn’t like that all political and social discourse would be going to be banned, the OT threads people put time and effort into would be nuked or the feeling of falling under a bus/being scapegoats.

It wasn’t all about the initial controversy to everyone, is what I’m saying.

Framing it as such and lumping people all together like so many are doing in this thread isn’t the whole truth.



Oookay.

Maybe you replied to the wrong person?

Thank you for explaining what you meant. Appreciate it.

 

[Sephzilla]

Just another reminder that many people simply went to the forum that hadn't proposed to ban all political and social discourse and wasnt treating OT and it's many many different communities, archives of posts and interests, as sacrificial scapegoats.

Yup.

Some people didn't like that half of the forum basically got thrown under the bus for no good reason. A lot of things contributed to the huge exodus of users, not just the #MeToo moment.

 

[Corronchilejano]

What about that post is “far right”?

That one's on me, there's no proof otherwise.

It never answers the question, so it leads me to presume whoever's the owner of this profile was indeed banned before. I examine the member's posts and find he/she's gamer gater, so definetly banned before.

What I'd like to know is where the spite comes from, but I guess the far right comment might have put the poster off.

 

[DESTROYA]

I was shocked myself that people were on the warpath shouting “rapist” “burn my account” “perma-ban me” blah,blah,blah from only accusations, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
It worked itself out and I’m still on Gaf everyday and in my eyes better.
EviLore
Keep your chin up there are times that try everyone and it’s not what happens when your under pressure it’s how you handle the pressure.

 

[J Bro]

Posts like these is why people believe GAF went from far left to far right. Where you banned before?

I've never had an account before. I didn't want to associate with anti-gamergate and it's myriad of rapists and abusers or their daily two minutes hate.

If that's right wing, then I'm right wing.

 

[Corronchilejano]

I've never had an account before. I didn't want to associate with anti-gamergate and it's myriad of rapists and abusers or their daily two minutes hate.

If that's right wing, then I'm right wing.

It's not right wing, but you may be misinformed.

 

[TrainedRage]

Funny story from Old Gaf... My first post was in a thread about a psychotic black guy that got shot while in traffic waving a gun around. He was shot and Old Gaf was pissed about it. I simply said I'm so past the point of caring about every stupid person getting shot getting a topic about how fascist and Nazi like the police are. I was permanently banned from Gaf after one post. I remember the mod told me "if you don't care about this then I don't care if you get a permanent ban."

I came back after all those libturds who got outraged at people's lack of outrage were suicided. Place is so much better now.

 

[J Bro]

It's not right wing, but you may be misinformed.

Multiple people who parroted the anti-Gamergate narrative have been outed as rapists, abusers, or even pedophiles. - https://twitter.com/i/moments/851713200537993216
Zoe Quinn lied about Wizardchan, a forum of depressed people. - http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx
Wolf Wozniak tried to out Zoe Quinn for sexually harassing him after Eron tried outing her as his abuser. - https://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2014/09/wozniak3.png
There's also the Crash Override leaks. - for lack of a better source : https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Crash_Override_Network_Log_Leaks#Serious_Chat_.28Short.29

https://twitter.com/statuses/972573271693471744

https://twitter.com/statuses/972703510973132800

You don't have an excuse for your ignorance anymore.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Funny story from Old Gaf... My first post was in a thread about a psychotic black guy that got shot while in traffic waving a gun around. He was shot and Old Gaf was pissed about it. I simply said I'm so past the point of caring about every stupid person getting shot getting a topic about how fascist and Nazi like the police are. I was permanently banned from Gaf after one post. I remember the mod told me "if you don't care about this then I don't care if you get a permanent ban."

I came back after all those libturds who got outraged at people's lack of outrage were suicided. Place is so much better now.

You talking about the one firing at cops. And people felt the cops shot him too many times?

 

[TrainedRage]

You talking about the one firing at cops. And people felt the cops shot him too many times?

I think so... There were so many just like it being pushed every day. Hence my apathy. And thus permanent ban.

 

[Corronchilejano]

You don't have an excuse for your ignorance anymore.

I am at a loss for words. I want to write so much yet have so little desire because I know where this is going. Let's leave it at that.

 

[J Bro]

I am at a loss for words. I want to write so much yet have so little desire because I know where this is going. Let's leave it at that.

There's nothing worth saying in defense of anti-gamergate weirdos.

 

[Corronchilejano]

There's nothing worth saying in defense of anti-gamergate weirdos.

You're incredibly on edge.

 

[Tumle]

Funny story from Old Gaf... My first post was in a thread about a psychotic black guy that got shot while in traffic waving a gun around. He was shot and Old Gaf was pissed about it. I simply said I'm so past the point of caring about every stupid person getting shot getting a topic about how fascist and Nazi like the police are. I was permanently banned from Gaf after one post. I remember the mod told me "if you don't care about this then I don't care if you get a permanent ban."

I came back after all those libturds who got outraged at people's lack of outrage were suicided. Place is so much better now.

I’m just as glad that all those extreme people are gone.. but calling us on the other end of the political spectrum for libturds, is not helping anyone..

 

[J Bro]

You're incredibly on edge.

Sorry I don't like bad people.

 

[Corronchilejano]

Sorry I don't like bad people.

I don't even know how to approach this conversation.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Sorry I don't like bad people.

You're not being a good representative with your sweeping generalizations, insults and aggressive posts. It would be better to post your opinions in the Gamergate thread and with more tact and openness.

 

[llien]

Multiple people who parroted the anti-Gamergate narrative have been outed as rapists, abusers, or even pedophiles

Are you seriously arguing that majority of anti-GG are rapists, abusers (?) or pedophiles?

 

[J Bro]

You're not being a good representative with your sweeping generalizations, insults and aggressive posts. It would be better to post your opinions in the Gamergate thread and with more tact and openness.

Are you seriously arguing that majority of anti-GG are rapists, abusers (?) or pedophiles?

I'm saying that the majority of anti-gg supported rapists abusers and pedophiles. Wasn't that the prevailing logic when it came to gg itself? I really don't understand this issue. The people who invented the narrative in the first place were the aforementioned abusers. It's fine to get played by liars, but if you continue the rhetoric after they've been outed, then at this point you know exactly what you're doing.

It's almost as if people are averse to treating real harassers and abusers as badly as they treated fictional harassers.

 

[llien]

I'm saying that the majority of anti-gg supported rapists abusers and pedophiles.

I now get your point, although we have a different thread for discussing GG events. Note that many would challenge your rapist/abuser/pedophile conclusion.

 

[bitbydeath]

There's nothing worth saying in defense of anti-gamergate weirdos.

Time to step away and get some air mate, re-read your posts later and facepalm.

Talk to others how you want them to talk to you.

 

[Corronchilejano]

I'm saying that the majority of anti-gg supported rapists abusers and pedophiles. Wasn't that the prevailing logic when it came to gg itself? I really don't understand this issue. The people who invented the narrative in the first place were the aforementioned abusers. It's fine to get played by liars, but if you continue the rhetoric after they've been outed, then at this point you know exactly what you're doing.

It's almost as if people are averse to treating real harassers and abusers as badly as they treated fictional harassers.

This is pretty much the reason why I don't know what to say. In the end you may say you're GG or anti-GG but everyone is judged based on what they do. Every time I had something to say it resounded with me that someone in GG had already used the exact same words to defend themselves. It's pot calling kettle.

I will say, however, that if we live in a new era (no pun intended) of NeoGAF and we can talk freely about issues, we can avoid the generalizations and maybe speak without prejudice, for us and others.

 

[J Bro]

Note that many would challenge your rapist/abuser/pedophile conclusion.

Yeah, but they're ignoring their own pre-resetera environment where even tacitly supporting gg people meant supporting gg as a whole. Their toxic anti-woman environment was staring them in the face this entire time.

Time to step away and get some air mate, re-read your posts later and facepalm.

Talk to others how you want them to talk to you.

I don't see the issue here. Maybe you've forgotten just how many innocent people were harassed and hounded by weird sycophants to well known abusers.

 

[bitbydeath]

I don't see the issue here. Maybe you've forgotten just how many innocent people were harassed and hounded by weird sycophants to well known abusers.

I agree with that, maybe I read wrong, thought your posts were coming off a bit too strong.

 

[strange headache]

Their toxic anti-woman environment was staring them in the face this entire time.

Yes, it's ironic how those who are virtue-signaling the hardest are usually those willing to commit the most atrocious acts. Be it in order to hide their own shortcomings or because they think it's for...

 

[Osukaa]

The events surrounding the allegations againt Evilore was some of the dumbest, most mean spirited shit I’ve seen in a long time. What made it more disturbing was I liked a lot of the people that left. I have no interest in the other forum, I’ve been here a long time and I’m comfortable here. I’m the type of person that’s happy to see a young person build something cool, and I actually think in the long term the forum will be better off.

Yeah, I admit I liked hearing from alot of the gaffers that left but seeing how they turned out to really be when it all went down was an eye opener. Gaf is better off without them. I consider myself a far left leaning progressive af kinda guy but it was ridiculous what happened here. It still blows my mind how people were so quick to judge and proclaim themselves holier than thou, but now that it's passed I am glad gaf survived even though its been slower here I enjoy it.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Yeah, I admit I liked hearing from alot of the gaffers that left but seeing how they turned out to really be when it all went down was an eye opener. Gaf is better off without them. I consider myself a far left leaning progressive af kinda guy but it was ridiculous what happened here. It still blows my mind how people were so quick to judge and proclaim themselves holier than thou, but now that it's passed I am glad gaf survived even though its been slower here I enjoy it.

I'd like to mention that there's no need to generalize all the people leaving as doing it of mean-spirited reasons, as G GrizzleBoy has pointed out. For some it was the uncertainty in regards to what they could expect to participate in on the forum and the practical solution in doing what a lot of known community members were doing. So in a sense, they left because they felt GAF was sort of pushing them away and that an alternative that for them was a GAF replacement showed up. Things were chaotic for a while after all.

 

[Osukaa]

I'd like to mention that there's no need to generalize all the people leaving as doing it of mean-spirited reasons, as G GrizzleBoy has pointed out. For some it was the uncertainty in regards to what they could expect to participate in on the forum and the practical solution in doing what a lot of known community members were doing. So in a sense, they left because they felt GAF was sort of pushing them away and that an alternative that for them was a GAF replacement showed up. Things were chaotic for a while after all.

No I completely agree and I guess it does sound like I lumped everyone together but I mean just the ones that left posting porn and just being vile with their posts in order to get banned. I think the good ones that left quietly were overshadowed by the jerks.

 

[VAL0R]

I thought it was completely sickening how all these liberal internet hero types demonstrated their so-called virtue by judging EvilLore as guilty of all charges with no trial, no evidence, merely accusations (which EviLore denied!). No mercy, no grace, just ignorant judgement.

I know I have a very different worldview from EviLore from reading some of his past posts. But I should never publicly judge and condemn him or anyone else of sin/evil without reasonable evidence and proof. That is incredibly uncharitable, cruel and evil in itself. As a Catholic I believe it's a great sin to damage someone's good name and reputation without a just reason.

Honestly, once I saw the atmosphere here change and some of the rabble clear, I thought maybe I could survive for more than 10 hot minutes, and jumped in. I'm enjoying my stay so far, thanks!

 

[RokkanStoned]

No I completely agree and I guess it does sound like I lumped everyone together but I mean just the ones that left posting porn and just being vile with their posts in order to get banned. I think the good ones that left quietly were overshadowed by the jerks.

Yeah, agree with that. More so that for some people it became a sport of trying to show "resetera cred" by posting porn and juvenile inflammatory threads to get banned and then bragging about it.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Yes, it's ironic how those who are virtue-signaling the hardest are usually those willing to commit the most atrocious acts. Be it in order to hide their own shortcomings or because they think it's for...

Some of us have been around long enough to remember:



But you probably had something else in mind.

 

[caffeware]

I'm just surprised all the legendary neogaf posters left at a snap of a finger.

Herd mentality if you ask me.

I wish well to this site.

 

[Vicetrailia]

I'm just surprised all the legendary neogaf posters left at a snap of a finger.

Herd mentality if you ask me.

I wish well to this site.

These kinds of pot shots are bad for this site. All it does is encourage people to react harshly. Rather than relying on people to self sensor, why not just be more cordial?

 

[DKehoe]

I'm just surprised all the legendary neogaf posters left at a snap of a finger.

Herd mentality if you ask me.

I wish well to this site.

OT got shut down and a post then said that upon reopening conversations on it would be extremely limited (no talk of politics etc.) It’s not surprising that in that the community decided to move somewhere new as a way to preserve itself in the face of that kind of uncertainty.

 

[J Bro]

OT got shut down and a post then said that upon reopening conversations on it would be extremely limited (no talk of politics etc.) It’s not surprising that in that the community decided to move somewhere new as a way to preserve itself in the face of that kind of uncertainty.

They went somewhere else so they could continue their harassment campaign against people they didn't like. Daniel Vavra is the current target.

 

[RokkanStoned]

They went somewhere else so they could continue their harassment campaign against people they didn't like. Daniel Vavra is the current target.

You're not being very helpful for anyone with trying to sweep everyone under one comb. He's clearly saying that a lot of people left because of OT being an important part of the community and seemingly stopping of OT made people move due to the uncertainty and not ill will towards EviLore.
Chill man, there's no need to aggressively judge people like that. Nothing good will come out of it and it seems like you're just venting your own frustrations.

 

[Vicetrailia]

They went somewhere else so they could continue their harassment campaign against people they didn't like. Daniel Vavra is the current target.

I actually think that they went to that site because it was a more attractive product at the time.

Keep in mind that:
EviLore didn't own it/#metoo
Gaf went down due to DDOS
EviLore checked out
Political discussion would resume
Content creators left
The place promised a better tomorrow
Better forum features

And there may be more factors.