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[Gavin Stevens]

Ugh, getting a tad fed up with my TV now, have to say. After waiting weeks for Samsung to repair it, they finally did. The new panel is already showing signs of dark brown sides. But worst still is I'm not getting this odd issue where some inputs (namely YouTube, Internet, Prime, Netflix etc) seem to auto darken the screen after a while. The same way how when you have no input on, the screen goes a bit dimmer? Yeah, all the eco settings are off, too.

Also, I had to take off the SmartLED completely, because it seemed to be clipping my colours far too much. I had a still image from Skyrim and went through every single setting, and the only one that made the colours clip really badly was SmartLED. It looked almost like I was losing half the detail in the image. So now, I have worse blacks, but at least I have the actual detail.

Really big shame how many issues I seem to have had with this. What a bugger.

 

[VincentMatts]

Ugh, getting a tad fed up with my TV now, have to say. After waiting weeks for Samsung to repair it, they finally did. The new panel is already showing signs of dark brown sides. But worst still is I'm not getting this odd issue where some inputs (namely YouTube, Internet, Prime, Netflix etc) seem to auto darken the screen after a while. The same way how when you have no input on, the screen goes a bit dimmer? Yeah, all the eco settings are off, too.

Also, I had to take off the SmartLED completely, because it seemed to be clipping my colours far too much. I had a still image from Skyrim and went through every single setting, and the only one that made the colours clip really badly was SmartLED. It looked almost like I was losing half the detail in the image. So now, I have worse blacks, but at least I have the actual detail.

Really big shame how many issues I seem to have had with this. What a bugger.

Just seems like bad luck tbh, ive had no issues with it.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Just seems like bad luck tbh, ive had no issues with it.

As much as I wish I could say I agree, I've seen countless issues online with the same problems. Quite shocking build quality wise. This is why I haven't gone Samsung in a long time, and likely my next TV wont be either. They just aren't up to scratch.

 

[VincentMatts]

As much as I wish I could say I agree, I've seen countless issues online with the same problems. Quite shocking build quality wise. This is why I haven't gone Samsung in a long time, and likely my next TV wont be either. They just aren't up to scratch.

Well i was very lucky with it i guess, other than that HDR fix im still waiting on, its been great. But yeah, i feel like Samsung in general can be a lot better quality wise.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

I've seen countless issues online with the same problems.

It was a extremely popular TV model that year. Highly recommended. They sold a ton. And the only people that post online about TVs a year later are the ones having problems or the dissatisfied. So going by what you see online it's always going to look like a bunch of problems. That's pretty much all you are going to see since everyone else is either happy with it or oblivious and won't be posting. I'm not saying the KS8000 is equal to, better, or worse than other models in this area, but that the amount of issues you see online is a very poor indicator of how reliable the set is on the whole. You had problems, so that's really all that matters to you, ultimately.

 

[Belker]

It was a extremely popular TV model that year. Highly recommended. They sold a ton. And the only people that post online about TVs a year later are the ones having problems or the dissatisfied. So going by what you see online it's always going to look like a bunch of problems. That's pretty much all you are going to see since everyone else is either happy with it or oblivious and won't be posting. I'm not saying the KS8000 is equal to, better, or worse than other models in this area, but that the amount of issues you see online is a very poor indicator of how reliable the set is on the whole. You had problems, so that's really all that matters to you, ultimately.

Yep. It's a self-selecting group. My only problem with the TV is I'm still getting the 3D effect, but much, much less frequently than before (touch wood). I daren't try to get a new panel in case I end up with a worse one.

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Anyone noticed when playing sea of thieves in HDR the brightness needs to be down around 30? It’s the same as The Witness. 45 is far too blown out and grey.

 

[CreateNowSleepLater]

What is the 3

Yep. It's a self-selecting group. My only problem with the TV is I'm still getting the 3D effect, but much, much less frequently than before (touch wood). I daren't try to get a new panel in case I end up with a worse one.

What is the 3D effect? You mean the Soap Opera effect?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Anyone noticed when playing sea of thieves in HDR the brightness needs to be down around 30? It’s the same as The Witness. 45 is far too blown out and grey.

Use dynamic contrast and +1 gamma. Only way I’ve found to get around it in forza etc.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

What is the 3D effect? You mean the Soap Opera effect?

I think they're referring to the brief red/blue color separation bug that sometimes appears in game mode.

 

[Belker]

I think they're referring to the brief red/blue color separation bug that sometimes appears in game mode.

Yep.

 

[DryvBy]

Is anyone else still having issues with Game mode? Every time I do that mode, I run into color separation problems.

 

[Insane Metal]

Is anyone else still having issues with Game mode? Every time I do that mode, I run into color separation problems.

Personally I've never had this issue, but it's a known one from this TV model, unfortunately. A lot of people seem to run into this issue and no fix has ever been released.

Samsung sucks.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Is anyone else still having issues with Game mode? Every time I do that mode, I run into color separation problems.

I've seen it but it happens so briefly (1/2 second?) that it's a non-issue. Even then I only see that once a day at most. How often does it happen to you and for how long?

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Use dynamic contrast and +1 gamma. Only way I’ve found to get around it in forza etc.

Using Forza 7, Gran Turismo Sport and Sea of Thieves to test HDR. Every game looks fantastic to my eyes with the following HDR settings.

Backlight 20
Brightness 35
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast High
Contrast 100
Colour 55
Sharpness 15

With these settings the Forza in game brightness and contrast sliders stay at default, they don’t need to be adjusted. I’m gonna leave it like this until something looks drastically bad. The wishy washy look is completely gone and everything looks mesmerising in every game I’ve tested.

Any minor clipping on whites is more than made up for with a much greater overall picture.

Give these a watch..

 

[Composer]

Has anyone used the Steam Link app on the TV? What are your thoughts? And what would it be like to play a game like Vermintide 2 on it?

 

[Dibils2k]

Using Forza 7, Gran Turismo Sport and Sea of Thieves to test HDR. Every game looks fantastic to my eyes with the following HDR settings.

Backlight 20
Brightness 35
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast High
Contrast 100
Colour 55
Sharpness 15

With these settings the Forza in game brightness and contrast sliders stay at default, they don’t need to be adjusted. I’m gonna leave it like this until something looks drastically bad. The wishy washy look is completely gone and everything looks mesmerising in every game I’ve tested.

Any minor clipping on whites is more than made up for with a much greater overall picture.

Give these a watch..

i am glad you like it but for others It should be mentioned one of the points of HDR is seeing the fine detail in bright brights and dark darks, turning on dynamic contrast pretty much crashes this and you get pretty much a SDR picture that has abit better contrast

 

[Panther84]

Using Forza 7, Gran Turismo Sport and Sea of Thieves to test HDR. Every game looks fantastic to my eyes with the following HDR settings.

Backlight 20
Brightness 35
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast High
Contrast 100
Colour 55
Sharpness 15

With these settings the Forza in game brightness and contrast sliders stay at default, they don’t need to be adjusted. I’m gonna leave it like this until something looks drastically bad. The wishy washy look is completely gone and everything looks mesmerising in every game I’ve tested.

Any minor clipping on whites is more than made up for with a much greater overall picture.

Give these a watch..

I dialed in your settings and love how hdr looks! Got that wow effect when I first bought my ks8000. Do you use the same settings for sdr? Thanks again for the settings =)

 

[Noboru Wataya]

I dialed in your settings and love how hdr looks! Got that wow effect when I first bought my ks8000. Do you use the same settings for sdr? Thanks again for the settings =)

No for SDR I just follow the majority of the other settings.

Backlight 8-10
Brightness 45
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast Off
Contrast 100
Colour 55
Sharpness 15

When using the HDR settings, depending on game I may move the brightness above 35 but never played a game that required it as high as 45
Also Colour could be dropped to 50, but if you like a vivid image 55 is fine.

Glad its helped someone out You may miss small details in the whites with those settings, but really do you care when everything else looks so so good. The TV doesn't have a good enough standard contrast ratio for HDR, and that's why Dynamic Contrast is required.

 

[Panther84]

No for SDR I just follow the majority of the other settings.

Backlight 8-10
Brightness 45
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast Off
Contrast 100
Colour 55
Sharpness 15

When using the HDR settings, depending on game I may move the brightness above 35 but never played a game that required it as high as 45
Also Colour could be dropped to 50, but if you like a vivid image 55 is fine.

Glad its helped someone out You may miss small details in the whites with those settings, but really do you care when everything else looks so so good. The TV doesn't have a good enough standard contrast ratio for HDR, and that's why Dynamic Contrast is required.

Ya I agree that dynamic contrast is a must with hdr on the ks8000. Can't wait for the new firmware so I can have sdr and hdr settings in game mode.

 

[Hostile_18]

Does anyone else have to lower the in Game brightness settings to the darkest setting with HDR games to make it look right on this tv? Seems really strange.

 

[Panther84]

Does anyone else have to lower the in Game brightness settings to the darkest setting with HDR games to make it look right on this tv? Seems really strange.

I have noticed this too. When I use the calibration image in fifa 18 I see every bar in the brightness pattern. If I lower brightness to 15 then i get the proper brightness.

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Does anyone else have to lower the in Game brightness settings to the darkest setting with HDR games to make it look right on this tv? Seems really strange.

Yup, 45 is way wayyyyyy too high for HDR.

 

[Hostile_18]

I have noticed this too. When I use the calibration image in fifa 18 I see every bar in the brightness pattern. If I lower brightness to 15 then i get the proper brightness.

Last of Us, Final Fantasy, Shadow, Horizon and now Far Cry 5 all had to be lowered to either the lowest setting or very near it, using the in Game menus. Not sure what would cause it but what difference is night and day.

 

[ManUnkindH]

I'm sorry honey, got my set ISF calibrated and your settings are shite. Dynamic Contrast HIGH? Lmao.

 

[Noboru Wataya]

I'm sorry honey, got my set ISF calibrated and your settings are shite. Dynamic Contrast HIGH? Lmao.

What’s with the attitude? “LMAO”

Dynamic contrast is handled much better on the latest firmware, although on some games it’s very clippy on whites like Far Cry 5 or FFXV, so I drop it down. With Sea of Thieves it’s required, by me, to be on high to get those good blacks with detail and not a grey washed out mess of poor contrast, especially since there are no in game options.

There is no HDR standard for gaming and some games don’t have any display calibration options, due to that alone, your ISF calibrated display will only get you so far when it comes to poorly implemented HDR. Tweaking brightness and dynamic contrast are a good way to make up for some games poor implementation. The panel has a pretty good contrast ratio, but alone it isn’t high enough for HDR to be displayed perfectly, and without everyone getting ISF the dynamic contrast is a great quick and easy helper.

Enjoy your ISF calibration Friend

 

[ManUnkindH]

Sorry for my ahole attitude, just got tired of seeing so much disinformation in this and avs threads. Posted my settings after the calibration in here, feel free to check them out, just don't change anything with custom color space and white balance.

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Sorry for my ahole attitude, just got tired of seeing so much disinformation in this and avs threads. Posted my settings after the calibration in here, feel free to check them out, just don't change anything with custom color space and white balance.

No worries , yeah I will try out your settings. Will post back how I get on. Thanks.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Dynamic contrast should be enabled for certain games, otherwise it will wash out the colours on whites. For example, Forza will give a "grey" ui.

The bigger offender, is smart LED. If you enable smart LED, it will create clipping issues in some games. Take a static screenshot of something in dark, for example, the loading screens in Skyrim, and compare. It will bloom out the detail. Also, the xbox UI will fade in with a strange colour, rather than grey.

 

[Dibils2k]

i cant stand Smart LED, so it is turned off in SDR but its needed in HDR to get the HDR contrast

there was a time i needed to use it to beat the forced local dimming on this TV (dims whole screen if the majority of the image is dark) but thankfully i figured a way to turn that off in Service menu so i never touch Smart LED in SDR

 

[base]

2015 models are getting new firmware. We should really expect something coming for the 2016 models.

 

[kagigod]

2015 models are getting new firmware. We should really expect something coming for the 2016 models.

Can you elaborate more?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Just as I posted about my troubles with my screens before, an update... Samsung are repairing my FIFTH screen tomorrow. Number 5.

That’s insane. But because I replaced the first two instore, they refuse to replace the model unless this third screen has troubles as well. Which givin the build quality of this thing, just may be likely...

 

[Panther84]

What’s with the attitude? “LMAO”

Dynamic contrast is handled much better on the latest firmware, although on some games it’s very clippy on whites like Far Cry 5 or FFXV, so I drop it down. With Sea of Thieves it’s required, by me, to be on high to get those good blacks with detail and not a grey washed out mess of poor contrast, especially since there are no in game options.

There is no HDR standard for gaming and some games don’t have any display calibration options, due to that alone, your ISF calibrated display will only get you so far when it comes to poorly implemented HDR. Tweaking brightness and dynamic contrast are a good way to make up for some games poor implementation. The panel has a pretty good contrast ratio, but alone it isn’t high enough for HDR to be displayed perfectly, and without everyone getting ISF the dynamic contrast is a great quick and easy helper.

Enjoy your ISF calibration Friend

Where can I find your settings? Interested In seeing what your got.

 

[Panther84]

2015 models are getting new firmware. We should really expect something coming for the 2016 models.

Rudy1 did say in April we should get the new firmware for the 2016 models

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Where can I find your settings? Interested In seeing what your got.

HDR settings only, I sometimes play with brightness and dynamic contrast depending on game but not much else. I try not to change tv settings when the game has display sliders.

 

[Sevket-Erhat]

KS8000 is not available here anymore, they have MU8000 is it any good ?

Well damn

The 2016 KS8000 performs better than the MU8000 overall.

• The KS8000 has a higher native contrast ratio for dark scenes
• The KS8000 gets significantly brighter for HDR and SDR
• The KS8000 has a wider color gamut, and can display a larger color volume
• The KS8000 is better at handling reflections
• The MU8000 has better motion handling due to the faster response time

If you can find it, the KS8000 performs better and is available at a lower price.

 

[Panther84]

KS8000 is not available here anymore, they have MU8000 is it any good ?

Well damn

The 2016 KS8000 performs better than the MU8000 overall.

• The KS8000 has a higher native contrast ratio for dark scenes
• The KS8000 gets significantly brighter for HDR and SDR
• The KS8000 has a wider color gamut, and can display a larger color volume
• The KS8000 is better at handling reflections
• The MU8000 has better motion handling due to the faster response time

If you can find it, the KS8000 performs better and is available at a lower price.

The Samsung q8 is probably closest to ks8000

 

[Thanofski88]

just to throw my few cents about my tv settings...

after reading allot and trying different settings I ended up using dynamic contrast in high but in a way that colors don't get crushed or over saturated and still get way better color contrast and hdr representation.

I really suggest to give it a try.

enable dynamic contrast in high.BUT reduce your color (I personally got it on 38) so that you avoid over saturation and and also reduce brightness to 35 while keeping on mind in-game specific settings for brightness as well.I keep everything else on pretty much the standard hdr settings

contrast 100
sharpness 15
smart led on high
color 38
brightness 35
dynamic contrast high

With these settings you get all the benefits of the hdr with way more lively colors and WITHOUT that weird grey dimmed image!

give it a try

 

[Panther84]

just to throw my few cents about my tv settings...

after reading allot and trying different settings I ended up using dynamic contrast in high but in a way that colors don't get crushed or over saturated and still get way better color contrast and hdr representation.

I really suggest to give it a try.

enable dynamic contrast in high.BUT reduce your color (I personally got it on 38) so that you avoid over saturation and and also reduce brightness to 35 while keeping on mind in-game specific settings for brightness as well.I keep everything else on pretty much the standard hdr settings

contrast 100
sharpness 15
smart led on high
color 38
brightness 35
dynamic contrast high

With these settings you get all the benefits of the hdr with way more lively colors and WITHOUT that weird grey dimmed image!

give it a try

Just tried out your settings... Took me a while to adjust to the lower saturation but I kinda like it. Will try more games later on. Do you use these for sdr as well?

 

[Thanofski88]

Just tried out your settings... Took me a while to adjust to the lower saturation but I kinda like it. Will try more games later on. Do you use these for sdr as well?

I don't think there is less saturation since dynamic contrast oversaturates the image so I reduced color and brightness to compensate with colors crushing.the only change I notice with my settings is the grayish layer gets removed and the image settings way more clear than before.

for sdr I just keep the suggested settings from this post always hoping for a hdr settings fix from sammy...

 

[Panther84]

I don't think there is less saturation since dynamic contrast oversaturates the image so I reduced color and brightness to compensate with colors crushing.the only change I notice with my settings is the grayish layer gets removed and the image settings way more clear than before.

for sdr I just keep the suggested settings from this post always hoping for a hdr settings fix from sammy...

What color temp are you using?

 

[Thanofski88]

What color temp are you using?

warm 2...I have gotten used to it...even warm 1 seems really blueish to my eyes

 

[Hostile_18]

So with normal content auto is correct and native oversaturates colours (especially red).

Yet in HDR it flips it and auto oversaturates the colours and native is the more accurate. Latest firmware. Is this a bug? Just another setting to keep manually changing

 

[Panther84]

I've been trying out a few settings from this thread and finally settled on settings I'm using on majority of my games sdr and hdr. Thought I'd share with the community. Please don't rip me, these are the settings my eyes enjoy.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 20 (15 sometimes)
Color 55
Tint 50/50
Dynamic contrast high
Smart led high
White balance all default
Gamma -3 (really helps with colors and black level)
Color space auto

 

[Noboru Wataya]

I've been trying out a few settings from this thread and finally settled on settings I'm using on majority of my games sdr and hdr. Thought I'd share with the community. Please don't rip me, these are the settings my eyes enjoy.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 20 (15 sometimes)
Color 55
Tint 50/50
Dynamic contrast high
Smart led high
White balance all default
Gamma -3 (really helps with colors and black level)
Color space auto

I think the gamma -3 can be equated to having brightness at 35. I can’t imagine there being much difference in it. But yeah these are pretty much my hdr defaults now.

 

[Panther84]

I think the gamma -3 can be equated to having brightness at 35. I can’t imagine there being much difference in it. But yeah these are pretty much my hdr defaults now.

Ya pretty much started with your settings and fiddled til my eyes were satisfied. Thanks!

 

[chaosaeon]

What changed for how Dynamic Contrast works with HDR in the lastest firmware ? I tried updating mine yesterday and it's only 1207 not 1208.2. Is that not available in NA yet ?

Also I keep going back and forth between a couple different combinations of settings.
One is raising the brightness on the set up by 6 points and then lowering gamma and color both 2 points to compensate what lower gamma does to the color, OR, having the brightness down 6 and gamma and color up 2 points. It's definitely different. Things like Shadow of the Colossus look better with lower gamma and higher brightness, while Infamous Second Son looks better with lower brightness and higher gamma.

 

[DanEON]

I dont know what they changed in Dynamic Contrast with last patches. But for me, it is still completely shit. DC just ruins the image!!!

 

[Dibils2k]

Good new for US owners! Game Mode HDR Fix is out!

here is download link if you want it
downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/FM/201804/20180410094644953/T-JZMAKUC.zip

unfortunately for us in Europe we will have to wait till its available for us but seems like Rudy1 was not bullshitting after all