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Gander

Banned
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
It's weird and petty that he just can't get over it.
 
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So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?

If only we had a democratic president who knew about the tampering and could have done something about it....
 

zelo-ca

Member
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?

Expelling 60 Russian diplomats out of the USA? You sure Trump is his bitch?
 
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?

And if the accusations are found to be true then he should be impeached. Until then they are only accusations.
 

Gander

Banned
Expelling 60 Russian diplomats out of the USA? You sure Trump is his bitch?

Well even after it was told to him that Russia attacked one of our allies he had no words for Putin.

From a highly decorated General, defend him now.

 
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DiscoJer

Member
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?

Did the tampering actually have any effect on the results? It wasn't Russia that prevented Hillary from campaigning in blue collar dominated states that went to Trump
 

Gander

Banned
Did the tampering actually have any effect on the results? It wasn't Russia that prevented Hillary from campaigning in blue collar dominated states that went to Trump

Any tampering is too much and considering it was such a dividing highly contested outcome, I'd say for several Americans it was unacceptable.
 

888

Member
Any tampering is too much and considering it was such a dividing highly contested outcome, I'd say for several Americans it was unacceptable.

How about when we do it to others?

“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”
The United States’ departure from democratic ideals sometimes went much further. The C.I.A. helped overthrow elected leaders in Iran and Guatemala in the 1950s and backed violent coups in several other countries in the 1960s. It plotted assassinations and supported brutal anti-Communist governments in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html
 

xStoyax

Banned
How about when we do it to others?

“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”
The United States’ departure from democratic ideals sometimes went much further. The C.I.A. helped overthrow elected leaders in Iran and Guatemala in the 1950s and backed violent coups in several other countries in the 1960s. It plotted assassinations and supported brutal anti-Communist governments in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html



 

Gander

Banned
How about when we do it to others?

“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”
The United States’ departure from democratic ideals sometimes went much further. The C.I.A. helped overthrow elected leaders in Iran and Guatemala in the 1950s and backed violent coups in several other countries in the 1960s. It plotted assassinations and supported brutal anti-Communist governments in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

Really that is different conversation. Russia tampered with our election is there anything that happened in the past that is going to justify that or make that ok, no.

So why bring that up?
 

888

Member
Really that is different conversation. Russia tampered with our election is there anything that happened in the past that is going to justify that or make that ok, no.

So why bring that up?

I don’t believe that answers my question. Is it ok when the US and A does it to others? It isn’t a different conversation.

Technically you derailed the thread first bringing up the Russian hacking theory for Hilary losing to the baboon.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
This marks the 5000th Trump thread. Carry on.

edit: hue
 
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KINGMOKU

Member
Really that is different conversation. Russia tampered with our election is there anything that happened in the past that is going to justify that or make that ok, no.

So why bring that up?
That's not the conversation you want to have seeing as how you apparently have evidence no one else has, or, more then likely, your just blinded by irrational hatred and ignorance.

I know what my guess would be.
 
Any tampering is too much and considering it was such a dividing highly contested outcome, I'd say for several Americans it was unacceptable.

I am not sure if you read the actual intelligence assessment but it doesn't really paint Trump in a bad light. In fact it reads business as usual with the real threat going forward is how social media can be weaponized for political gain.

Even politifact says, "It seems unlikely — though not impossible — that Russia interference changed the outcome of the election. We at PolitiFact have seen no compelling evidence that it did so."

There are things to learn from the 2016 elections for sure:

Social Media companies need to be held accountable.

Russia is going to be Russia.

Technology needs to meet the needs of security.
 
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Gander

Banned
I don’t believe that answers my question. Is it ok when the US and A does it to others? It isn’t a different conversation.

Technically you derailed the thread first bringing up the Russian hacking theory for Hilary losing to the baboon.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

The answer is not straight forward that is why it is a different conversation. Did we tamper to avoid a war, did we tamper for financial gain, did we tamper to avoid civilians getting hurt. So it all depends on the situation.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
Really that is different conversation. Russia tampered with our election is there anything that happened in the past that is going to justify that or make that ok, no.

So why bring that up?
How did Russia tamper with the elections? So far there's no evidence that Russian agents made/changed a single vote.

They legally bought ads on facebook and other social media so it's hard to call them out on that rather than social media platform owners.

And Ben Shapiro brought up interesting facts on Real Time with Bill Maher that Trump is harsher on Putin than Obama was:

Trump armed the people of Ukraine with deadly weaponry unlike Obama
200 Russian soldiers were killing by US forces in Syria under Trump
 
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How did Russia tamper with the elections? So far there's no evidence that Russian agents made/changed a single vote.

They legally bought ads on facebook and other social media so it's hard to call them out on that rather than social media platform owners.

Not only that, they also targeted both sides with advertisements. They could have even swayed some people to vote for Hillary. It’s a pathetic attempt by the Democrats to regain credibility after being destroyed in the election.
 

Gander

Banned
How did Russia tamper with the elections? So far there's no evidence that Russian agents made/changed a single vote.

They legally bought ads on facebook and other social media so it's hard to call them out on that rather than social media platform owners.

There 100 videos on the different contacts, campaigns and hacks look them up
 

Hotspurr

Banned
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?

Excellent use of sarcasm, enough to derail the thread. Maybe use /s next time?

What amazes me is how many people will stay glued to CNN waiting for some collusion story where all evidence points to that there was none. Millions of dollars spent by the probe and nothing directly tying Trump to Russia.

I always say, wishful thinking is a far worse way to live compared to an evidence/scientific approach.
 

Gander

Banned
Excellent use of sarcasm, enough to derail the thread. Maybe use /s next time?

What amazes me is how many people will stay glued to CNN waiting for some collusion story where all evidence points to that there was none. Millions of dollars spent by the probe and nothing directly tying Trump to Russia.

I always say, wishful thinking is a far worse way to live compared to an evidence/scientific approach.

You should watch that CNN news more, half of Trump's cabinet had to quit due to scandal, that's not made up. Campaign Manager already in jail.
 

Hotspurr

Banned
You should watch that CNN news more, half of Trump's cabinet had to quit due to scandal, that's not made up. Campaign Manager already in jail.

Really? Can you please enlighten us as to why he went to jail and how it's related to the work he did for Trump?
 

Gander

Banned
Let me tell you a little American story about the notorious crime boss Al Capone. Of all the things he had done been a part of or ordered the gov't couldn't pin anything on him. Finally after getting a hold of his accountant they arrested him for tax evasion. When you have money connections and corrupt lawyer you dance away from a lot.

I say that to say this, just because somebody is hard to pin down doesn't mean they are innocent.
 

dolabla

Member
Let me tell you a little American story about the notorious crime boss Al Capone. Of all the things he had done been a part of or ordered the gov't couldn't pin anything on him. Finally after getting a hold of his accountant they arrested him for tax evasion. When you have money connections and corrupt lawyer you dance away from a lot.

I say that to say this, just because somebody is hard to pin down doesn't mean they are innocent.

Technology has come a very long way since Al Capone.

Let's say Trump was working with Russia. You mean to tell me he was able elude the NSA, CIA and FBI on his way to the most powerful position in the world? Not only would that be the greatest heist in US history, but it would also be greatest in world history given the technology that now exists.

You could literally put Trump in a Dos Equis commercial as the most elusive man in the world.
 
Damn that fucker is petty



The lack of avatars really give the throwaway accounts away.

If someone not having an avatar makes you feel uncomfortable there’s a website where everyone posts with avatars of themselves sporting multi-colored hair, think it's called Resetera or something..
 

Wulfric

Member
If someone not having an avatar makes you feel uncomfortable there’s a website where everyone posts with avatars of themselves sporting multi-colored hair, think it's called Resetera or something..

It doesn't make me uncomfortable, just intrigued. There's a lot of new, particularly aggressive accounts here. Coincidentally, many of them created after last October.
 
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dolabla

Member
It doesn't make me uncomfortable, just intrigued. There's a lot of new, particularly aggressive accounts here. Coincidentally, many of them created after last October.

You better be glad you didn't post this on Reset. You'd be warned/banned for avatar shaming.

:D
 
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Arkage

Banned
Trump keeps trying to relive his campaign win because nearly everything since than has been a shit fest for him. Not the least of which is his total Obamacare failure. Just wait till the Mueller hammer comes down, and all the dirty laundry comes out.

I mean, not that his voter base will care. They voted for an admitted molester of women. And nearly voted in a pedophile in Alabama by a 1% margin.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters." - Trump (y) Never a truer word spoken.
 

Christopher

Member
Trump keeps trying to relive his campaign win because nearly everything since than has been a shit fest for him. Not the least of which is his total Obamacare failure. Just wait till the Mueller hammer comes down, and all the dirty laundry comes out.

I mean, not that his voter base will care. They voted for an admitted molester of women. And nearly voted in a pedophile in Alabama by a 1% margin.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters." - Trump (y) Never a truer word spoken.

Quoted for 2020 win.
 
It doesn't make me uncomfortable, just intrigued. There's a lot of new, particularly aggressive accounts here. Coincidentally, many of them created after last October.

In my opinion it's because people are not afraid to speak up anymore.

On Old GAF you had a militant moderation team that would ban anyone if they posted anything that they didn’t agree with. People either didn’t care, posted and got banned or spoke up and got banned.

After the Old GAF moderation team went off to create their own new space a wave of users that were previously banned re-joined New GAF when it went live. So technically they are not new users, they are just users that were banned under the old rule and re-joined once they felt they were free to post their own thoughts and ideas without fear of permabans.

Also I assume a lot of users simply cannot be bothered uploading an avatar.

I've been on GAF since 2006, albeit under my old banned account. I should message Evillore to get it reinstated by I was never fond of the name anyhow.
 

Helios

Member
So we are just pretending like Russia didn't tamper with our election and Trump hasn't been Putin's bitch from the beginning? Is that what we are doing?
Why is it so hard for people, 2 years later, to understand that people voted for him and that's why he's your president?
 

Wulfric

Member
You better be glad you didn't post this on Reset. You'd be warned/banned for avatar shaming.

:D

I never mentioned anything about them.

And it's not shaming of any sort. I'm merely mentioning the behavior patterns I've noticed over the past few months.
 
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