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[Gingen]

Jesus that hill texture, has it not loaded or is that how it is in game

All his screenshot are fake or extremely selected to achieve all the worst conditions possible: standard PS4, no photomode, search for any lod or bug problem, time trial (where the track is totally deserted), worst possible time of day (almost always 12.00 o'clock where the shadows are absent), zoomed images hundred yards offtrack or catching hidden places that you never can see during gameplay

a similar user would be banned instantly in any forum of the world ... it's really incredible that here he is allowed to continue his squalid campaign against GTS

 

[Hage Kamo]

GT troll →Driver86.tuyang.AKbizzy

 

[TheAdmiester]

All his screenshot are fake or extremely selected to achieve all the worst conditions possible: standard PS4, no photomode, search for any lod or bug problem, time trial (where the track is totally deserted), worst possible time of day (almost always 12.00 o'clock where the shadows are absent), zoomed images hundred yards offtrack or catching hidden places that you never can see during gameplay

a similar user would be banned instantly in any forum of the world ... it's really incredible that here he is allowed to continue his squalid campaign against GTS

Cherry picking can be a valid point, but fake shots? Where?

 

[phil_t98]

Cherry picking can be a valid point, but fake shots? Where?

completely agree with that, each game has its good and bad points, now depending on how you look at it the best shots on here from each game are cherry picked to make each game look as good as possible. people think that cherry picked shots are just done to be negative about a game when it works the opposite way to

 

[Gingen]

Cherry picking can be a valid point, but fake shots? Where?

I have to premit that in order to replicate his images I have to capture the worst angles of the GT tracks that he have found and whitout using photomode (meanwhile he catch every single FM7 picture from the best angles possible and with photomode)...

notice the differences: amount of grass, crowd, texture detail, shadows... etc

notice the "GT sport" and "apex" flags on the left, I am in the same place of his picture but he is using some sort of super zoom to give the illusion that the hills/mountains in the background are very close to the track

compare his cherry picking trees to the normal trees that you can find in the game

It's clear that that guy is only a big troll

 

[GTR R35_Supra RZ]

Wholly shit the distances ppl go with this shit..AND now we have cats trying to replicate pics..where do y'all find the time to do this bs...

That's some no life next level ish.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I visit this thread for the shots and honestly getting tired of reading these personal attacks on tlw, im talking in general not any person in particular, are you guys that insecure over what he writes that you feel the need to attack his persona to feel better?

You are behaving like those prudes on that trashy site who can't take dissenting opinions/views
If what tlw writes bothers you so much, just block him and be done with it sheesh.

Take a seat

 

[TheAdmiester]

I have to premit that in order to replicate his images I have to capture the worst angles of the GT tracks that he have found and whitout using photomode (meanwhile he catch every single FM7 picture from the best angles possible and with photomode)...

notice the differences: amount of grass, crowd, texture detail, shadows... etc
notice the "GT sport" and "apex" flags on the left, I am in the same place of his picture but he is using some sort of super zoom to give the illusion that the hills/mountains in the background are very close to the track



compare his cherry picking trees to the normal trees that you can find in the game


It's clear that that guy is only a big troll

Still not seeing any evidence of pictures being faked.

 

[Hage Kamo]

I have to premit that in order to replicate his images I have to capture the worst angles of the GT tracks that he have found and whitout using photomode (meanwhile he catch every single FM7 picture from the best angles possible and with photomode)...

notice the differences: amount of grass, crowd, texture detail, shadows... etc

notice the "GT sport" and "apex" flags on the left, I am in the same place of his picture but he is using some sort of super zoom to give the illusion that the hills/mountains in the background are very close to the track



compare his cherry picking trees to the normal trees that you can find in the game

It's clear that that guy is only a big troll

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Significant downgrade

 

[Gingen]

Significant downgrade

isn't the same place genius... in my photo I had to select the worst place of the entire track that you have carefully identified

maybe here you can cheat those who haven't the game or your FM fan friends but with me yours squalid tricks doesn't work

why don't you use the same disgusting tricks with FM7 too? so we could see things much much worse than what you show with GTS

 

[Hage Kamo]

isn't the same place genius... in my photo I had to select the worst place of the entire track that you have carefully identified

maybe here you can cheat those who don't have the game or your FM fan friends but with me yours squalid tricks doesn't work

why don't you use the same disgusting tricks with FM7 too? so we could see things much much worse than what you show with GTS

There is still ugly photo of GTS, but I suppress it even this.

 

[Stuart360]

What game is that lol, it looks awful.

 

[ShapeGSX]

I have to premit that in order to replicate his images I have to capture the worst angles of the GT tracks that he have found and whitout using photomode (meanwhile he catch every single FM7 picture from the best angles possible and with photomode)...

notice the differences: amount of grass, crowd, texture detail, shadows... etc

notice the "GT sport" and "apex" flags on the left, I am in the same place of his picture but he is using some sort of super zoom to give the illusion that the hills/mountains in the background are very close to the track



compare his cherry picking trees to the normal trees that you can find in the game

It's clear that that guy is only a big troll

So what you’re saying is that GT has some good highs and some pretty poor lows?

 

[Gingen]

So what you’re saying is that GT has some good highs and some pretty poor lows?

I'm saying that if you aren't a GT hater interested only in cherry picking bad images the game looks absolutely beautiful

 

[TBiddy]

I'm saying that if you aren't a GT hater interested only in cherry picking bad images the game looks absolutely beautiful

Indeed GTS is a beautiful game. It's just not as beautiful as FH3, FH4 or - depending on the console - FM7.

 

[phil_t98]

I'm saying that if you aren't a GT hater interested only in cherry picking bad images the game looks absolutely beautiful

it works both ways as images cherry picked on both sides to make each game look better than the other, both are good looking and each have their own stand out points, currently Forza Horizon 4 beats them both by being open world and great visuals

 

[Gingen]

What game is that lol, it looks awful.

Hage Kamo mode on:

How do you feel when someone cherry picking against your favorite game?

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

Hage Kamo mode on:

How do you feel when someone cherry picking against your favorite game?

Funny thing is, it still looks better than the above pics of gts. Lol

 

[Gingen]

it works both ways as images cherry picked on both sides to make each game look better than the other, both are good looking and each have their own stand out points, currently Forza Horizon 4 beats them both by being open world and great visuals...

...and 30 fps in quality mode, only 12 cars on track and Donald Duck's car physics

 

[phil_t98]

...and 30 fps in quality mode, only 12 cars on track and Donald Duck's car physics

Lol you obvs aint played the game and dont realise what the game is doing and why it has a 30fps. Its drive anywhere

 

[Gingen]

Funny thing is, it still looks better than the above pics of gts. Lol

are you sure?

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

are you sure?

You do realize I can zoom that far into the gts pics too. I was referring to assets in general. Now you are just showing your desperation. Lol

 

[ShapeGSX]

...and 30 fps in quality mode, only 12 cars on track and Donald Duck's car physics

Come back when you’ve played the game.

You should pick it up on PC and run 60fps in any mode.

 

[urmie]

are you sure?

What platform are you playing on? I'm starting to think you are playing the PC version at the lowest settings possible. Show this same picture at Ultra settings. (if your PC can handle it)

 

[Turk1993]

I swear i was holding my self down but this guy is just such a troll, he keep posting base console screens and low setting for Forza while hidding all the low details of GTS in dark shadowy pics in photomode where the game even get enhanced. He keeps saying 30fps and 1080p, GTFO with that bullshit. Its runs 4k 60fps on my pc,it destroys anything on PS4 right now even on PC there is no game that comes close to what FH4 is doing. It got better textures, better car model, better reflections, better lighting yes better lighting 24h dynamic lighting with gi and different seasons, better weather, better sky, better shadows, better foliage, better world details, better and lots more 3d crowd, better draw distance, better lod management, better particles, deformable snow, deformable sand, deformable mud, higher frame rate and higher resolution. There is no competition right now for Forza horizon 4 and i don't think there will be. Acc is looking incredible for a racing sim but its track only focus is just limiting the devs to outshine FH4.

 

[GAMETA]

Forza Horizon 4 - PC

2560x1080 - Ultra/Extreme - 2x MSAA

Photo mode:

Gameplay:

 

[Stuart360]

Man FH4 has really triggered a lot of people, its pretty funny.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

GT Sport cars are right up there with any game. Some of the tracks appear to have lower quality assets may even be recycled ps3 assets.

But the higher quality tracks with the superb car models still hold up quite well

 

[phil_t98]

GT Sport cars are right up there with any game. Some of the tracks appear to have lower quality assets may even be recycled ps3 assets.

But the higher quality tracks with the superb car models still hold up quite well

Somsome have lower quality assets? What where they doing all those years inbetween? Genuine question

 

[Turk1993]

GT Sport cars are right up there with any game. Some of the tracks appear to have lower quality assets may even be recycled ps3 assets.

But the higher quality tracks with the superb car models still hold up quite well

GTS cars look ok from the outside but they are not as good as Forza, Driveclub or ACC, the lod is too low compared to these games. The interiors are however great, especially the shaders are really impresive.

 

[Bliman]

GT Sport is sim. Period. Either you didn't try it on wheel or you don't know what you are talking about.

Forza is simcade.

Sorry but no GT Sport is certainly not sim. Unless you water that concept so much down, but then Forza (not Horizon) is also a sim. They are both simcade.
Look what is running underneath the hood of simulators and then look at GT Sport and you will see.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

he lod is too low compared to these

?
GT sports cars have the same car models in photomode as in gameplay. Perhaps you mean other cars off in the distance?

The car model exteriors are superior to Forza 7 car models, and the cars have over 200k polygons, iirc.

This level of data will probably carry us for the next 10 years or so, I think, because the level of precision of these models is unmatched anywhere in the world right now. The only models that are higher in quality to what we have here would be the CAD models coming straight from the manufacturers, which cannot be rendered in real-time, obviously.


For models that can be rendered in real-time, this really is the best data that you’ll find anywhere in the world.

-yamauchi wccftech commenting on gt sport

GT sport car models are ps5 level car models.

 

[SatansReverence]

...and 30 fps in quality mode, only 12 cars on track and Donald Duck's car physics

Buddy, I can assure you that Horizons physics run 10 times deeper than any GT game.

It simply has extra grip modifiers and steering assists(this can be turned off btw) to make the game more enjoyable for what it is.

Has GT even managed to replicate rear drive torque steer yet?

 

[Bliman]

Maybe is not a pure sim like assetto corsa, but compared to FH4 where the physics is pure fantasy with super cars that go through forests and other absurdities , GTS looks like an ultra realistic simulation



That's not scape mode, is photomode on track.... If you weren't so busy on searching bugs and cherry picking images of GTS you should know that

Ok that is more like it. I never said that Forza Horizon and GT was the same. I just say that to call GT a sim is a to big a stretch. Just like Forza (not horizon) is not a sim. Of course Horizon is not a sim hopefully that is clear.Now we got this out of the way we can discuss the graphics again.

 

[Bliman]

...and 30 fps in quality mode, only 12 cars on track and Donald Duck's car physics

You look so insecure, why? It are only games.
And Forza Horizon doesn't have donald Duck's physics.
Have you tried it?
I was surprised when I opened all sim aspects in the options how it felt.

 

[LostDonkey]

Physics aside (not the point of the thread anyway).

I think we can all agree we have a new king in FH4 especially on PC.

Im very interested in what concessions were made in the X 4k mode compared to the maxed out PC experience.

Nothing is touching FH4 visually. Hell nothing was touching FH3 and they've done it again, always pushing the envelope this studio.

 

[Gingen]

How do you feel when someone cherry picking against your favorite game?

Hage Kamo mode on:

here the right answers:

You do realize I can zoom that far into the gts pics too. I was referring to assets in general. Now you are just showing your desperation. Lol

I swear i was holding my self down but this guy is just such a troll, he keep posting base console screens and low setting for Forza while hidding all the low details of GTS in dark shadowy pics in photomode where the game even get enhanced. He keeps saying 30fps and 1080p, GTFO with that bullshit. Its runs 4k 60fps on my pc,it destroys anything on PS4 right now even on PC there is no game that comes close to what FH4 is doing. It got better textures, better car model, better reflections, better lighting yes better lighting 24h dynamic lighting with gi and different seasons, better weather, better sky, better shadows, better foliage, better world details, better and lots more 3d crowd, better draw distance, better lod management, better particles, deformable snow, deformable sand, deformable mud, higher frame rate and higher resolution. There is no competition right now for Forza horizon 4 and i don't think there will be. Acc is looking incredible for a racing sim but its track only focus is just limiting the devs to outshine FH4.

thank you! both of you gave a perfect description of Hage Kamo

 

[tuyang]

You do realize I can zoom that far into the gts pics too. I was referring to assets in general. Now you are just showing your desperation. Lol

Which is better?

 

[thelastword]

Which is better?

No contest, it's not even funny....The top screens in that comparison....

 

[Hage Kamo]

whitch is better?

 

[thelastword]

whitch is better?

Where is the dirt track in Forza 7 so we can compare? Are you so anti proper comparisons?

 

[Hage Kamo]

Where is the dirt track in Forza 7 so we can compare? Are you so anti proper comparisons?

With the presence or absence of a dirt track, will the interior be omitted?

 

[thelastword]

With the presence or absence of a dirt track, will the interior be omitted?

I see impressive dust effects in GTS (well, effects in general where GTS takes pole position by some margin). I see better background shadows and details. I see a game that can depict proper lighting, especially a noon-day composition, instead of the samey bland lighting that always seem shy of overcast.....I see better draw distance etc etc etc.......You see, anytime you try to do what you do, you only defeat yourself. If this game or any other were so great visually, then it would be clear like it is with GT, and you would not have to go to such lengths....

 

[ShapeGSX]

You can see better draw distance from those two photos, huh?

 

[urmie]

Somsome have lower quality assets? What where they doing all those years inbetween? Genuine question

You see, that's the answer I've been looking for, as have others, since release. 4+ years. Let's be honest, Kaz took a gamble and lost, hence the lackluster reviews. Sure, it sold well, because we've been waiting 4+ years and Sony desperately needed a 1st party racer from Polyphony Digital. Now Kaz is in damage control and shoehorning in single player events to quell the lack of content.

So let's review what 4+ years of Kaz got everyone:

- No sp career mode (over time events were added)
- 1800P cb (Pro can't handle native 4K)
- More fantasy tracks
- Less cars/tracks (content is king at the end of the day)
- 4K photoshop
- Save online only
- Random Garage deletion - exclusive to GT Sport that hasn't been fixed......at all (if this was any other dev, it would've been on the front page of every games media website and most likely patched, PD has no official support and gets a pass?)

Perhaps Kaz needs to stop tweeting about what race he is taking part in and you know, get back to work? Or maybe step down?

 

[Rogas]

I agree that Gran Turismo is a shell of its former self, Polyphony Digital really fucked that prestigious brand up with GT: Sport.

PS5 Launch = Make GT Great Again!

 

[Magik85]

GTS
vs
PC2 (standard PS4, without photomode)

 

[phil_t98]

You see, that's the answer I've been looking for, as have others, since release. 4+ years. Let's be honest, Kaz took a gamble and lost, hence the lackluster reviews. Sure, it sold well, because we've been waiting 4+ years and Sony desperately needed a 1st party racer from Polyphony Digital. Now Kaz is in damage control and shoehorning in single player events to quell the lack of content.

So let's review what 4+ years of Kaz got everyone:

- No sp career mode (over time events were added)
- 1800P cb (Pro can't handle native 4K)
- More fantasy tracks
- Less cars/tracks (content is king at the end of the day)
- 4K photoshop
- Save online only
- Random Garage deletion - exclusive to GT Sport that hasn't been fixed......at all (if this was any other dev, it would've been on the front page of every games media website and most likely patched, PD has no official support and gets a pass?)

Perhaps Kaz needs to stop tweeting about what race he is taking part in and you know, get back to work? Or maybe step down?

It seems to get a pass off a lot of people in the state it was released and i know they patched it a lot and added a lot since it was released but what were they doing all those years

 

[Dontero]

Sorry but no GT Sport is certainly not sim. Unless you water that concept so much down, but then Forza (not Horizon) is also a sim. They are both simcade.

Look what is running underneath the hood of simulators and then look at GT Sport and you will see.

Sorry dude but this is just wrong.
- Forza does not even properly simulate driving model. In forza 7 "simulation" setting causes each car to behave like you drive on slicks so when you lose grip you will ALWAYS spin regardless how good your wheel work is. People who want even shred of actual simulation need to switch it to "normal" because then you can actually catch slides but on other hand it creates complete buffer between you and car which even more annihilates any feeling you have with wheel.
- Complete lack of detail on steering. Because there is no data. Road surfaces are completely flat. You don't feel anything in your wheel other than counter steer force which is numb as fuck and bumps. There is no any track detail on wheel because forza7 does not simulate it.

In other words F7 simulation is fucked. It is simcade.

GTSport model isn't the best in business (that is Iracing and AssettoCorsa) but it right after them. You can take F40 and compare it to Assetto Corsa F40 and you would hardly find difference. Take F7 F40 and you would feel like you drive bathtub.

F7 is good game. Just not good racing sim.

 

[Gingen]

whitch is better?

Why don't you tell everbody that FM applies anti-aliasing and other photomode filters at the moment you stop to move the camera? (before to take the picture), while GTS applies them only after you take the picture? So all your images that show the photomode HUD in both games to make it look a fair comparison actually are your umpteenth fake comparison