JimmyJones
Banned
It's going to end up being some trans dude and the SJW's will go nuclear.
You honestly didn't hear what's wrong with this when you read it back to yourself before hitting reply?
well the criticism of "her" was that it was a guy pretending to be a girl which happens quite a lot in the gaming world eg voice changers in MMOs
so i feel its pertinent to the situation to know whether or not they are a female or not instead of them just quitting which makes the whole thing look very sus.
“Elle” was not just simply criticized here. You know the difference. That said, are presenting your criticism as an argument for the online harassment of “Elle”?
So you’re arguing that online harassment is warranted based on a suspicion that some people have? Have to taken a leave of your senses?
oh i did. being female in gaming comes with a lot of perks. a woman half as good as a man gets a lot more praise in the esports circuit.
i rather a real woman takes up those coveted spot instead of guys pretending to be a girl. its a shame some of u don't realize we were dealing with a charlatan.
My take away from this is that a large part of this suspicion comes from the belief that they didn't pay their dues. Some anonymous person suddenly shows up in a professional esports team, and people are wondering who this person is and where they came from. They can't come from nowhere, so they must be someone that the community has seen before or played against before. You don't see Tuxedo Mask save the day with an expertly timed rose throw and not wonder what his secret identity is.Isn't getting selected to play on a pro team evidence that she has paid her dues?
Then why not stick it out until the esports organizations can put rules in place? Why run away immediately before the governing bodies can address the issue in order to protect her choice of hiding her identity?Again, why? As long as the Esport organizations can confirm her identity, what kind of rule entitles other players and the general public to know her name, gender or anything else about her?
“Elle” was not just simply criticized here. You know the difference. That said, are presenting your criticism as an argument for the online harassment of “Elle”?
Oh the humanity! How will you sleep at night or let alone breath without a livestream and court notorized report of the genitalia between “Elle’s” legs.
I hope people don’t misconstrue my statement as taking sides with idiots that harassed and threatened her.
Her suddenly appearing out of nowhere and quitting, in addition to her teammates not aggressively defending her sort of lends credence to the theory that the player might really be a dude.
oh i did. being female in gaming comes with a lot of perks. a woman half as good as a man gets a lot more praise in the esports circuit.
i rather a real woman takes up those coveted spots instead of guys pretending to be female. its a shame some of u don't realize we were dealing with a charlatan.
Well, you know, Ellie really is the last of us.It makes the topic feel like "You're either for Ellie or you're in favor of abuse and harassment."
What do we post? Dick length? I’m the most man!Maybe we need some NeoGAF members to provide proof that they are men and not boys like some of the reactions in here seem to suggest.
Girth is what it's all about.What do we post? Dick length? I’m the most man!
Scopa had a cum closet growing up. Is that proof?Girth is what it's all about.
A pencil isn't going to make anyone happy.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.Maybe we need some NeoGAF members to provide proof that they are men and not boys like some of the reactions in here seem to suggest.
At least buy me a drink first. Sheesh.I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Oh, who am I kidding. I'll show you mine anyway. You can't stop me from showing you. There are things in this life which you will see but can never unsee, the image seared into your retinas for all eternity, or until you die, whichever comes first. And one of those images will be my jutting jammy jammer. Well, part of it. You can't see the whole thing unless you crane your neck or are standing very far away... possibly some sort of elaborate contraption made of mirrors and pulleys... I don't know. Taking in the entirety of my majesty is your problem, not mine. But I do hope you'll take it all in.
Hm... Maybe went too far this time...
You are allowed one half glass of water per twenty minutes of love making to stave off dehydration. Anything more than that and you'll get sloshy.At least buy me a drink first. Sheesh.
She did earn it though. Thats the whole reason why she was invited to the pro team in the first place.
So, you're saying that its appropriate that someone be doxxed and harrased simply because they dont stream?! Are you serious? You actually think this is OK?!
Dear fucking God.
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Isn't getting selected to play on a pro team evidence that she has paid her dues?.
No, some people here are calling out the harassment in order to detract the real issue. Why aren't you questioning why she can be an anonymous esports player?I read this story earlier today. I think it sucks that Overwatch’s community is so toxic that you can’t be a female player without getting death threats and doxxed.
I understand her sudden appearance was questionable. I don’t blame people for having suspicions but it crosses the line from the jump. The other pro player threatening to doxx her is egregious.
There’s nothing else she could have done to prove it’s really after she streamed herself.
I see the posts in here “not everyone harassed her, some of us just had questions,” that’s fine but this isn’t about you. She was harassed and OW community has a stunning reputation for this kind of behavior.
No one is calling out skepticism. The harassment is being called out.
Its evidence someone has paid their dues, but that person may be banned.
Putting up an anonymous pro was clearly going to cause controversy, male or female. Sure, being female amplifies that controversy for obvious reasons since some people are shitheads - some will say a sexist things, and some will try to portray all outrage as sexist.
Basidally, her handle of ellie serves as a sort of shield against any justified outrage. If this was Jack, anyone with a brain would take issue with an anonymous pro since it could be a rightfully banned player. But because the user handle is female, any outrage gets called sexist and evidence of sexism.
That's a problem. Everything about this is a problem, and it all starts with a pro player trying to get by anon. The rest could have been predicted by a blind monkey that had any knowledge of the culture war going on, which personally, leads me to believe the people that decided to go anonymous knew they were setting a time bomb, because this controversy was a given.
autoduelist is on the right track. There was a discussion to be had here apart from discussing harassment. OP chose to open by focusing on the harassment aspect alone.
Is she the only female pro player?I think it sucks that Overwatch’s community is so toxic that you can’t be a female player without getting death threats and doxxed.
There was Kim “Geguri” Se-Yeon , but it was at a time where "dive comps" were king and she one tricked a hero that wasn't good against them. Aside from her, I don't know any others.Is she the only female pro player?
You missed the point. This story isn't about harassment. Stop using outrage to detract the real issue.The story is about harassment. This person. Ellie, was harassed. Period.
It matters if you've been banned and want to magically get a free pass by pretending to be another person and using gender as the trojan horse.Wrong. Normal reaction is: “FUCK YOU MY GENDER DOESNT FUCKING MATTER”.
Can we stop with this nonsense pretending that he/she supposedly got harassed because he/she's a girl? Girls that are good at video games get more praise than the guys ever get, exactly because they are quite rare. Guys/men get harassed a lot more online, and no one cares. This event is even a testament to that. The whole thing happened because people think she is NOT a girl. It has nothing to do with women-hating. This whole gender war narrative has to stop. This victimhood mentality does not help anyone. It only creates losers.I read this story earlier today. I think it sucks that Overwatch’s community is so toxic that you can’t be a female player without getting death threats and doxxed.
SJW with their fake outrage is the only answer with that anonymously.I don't follow esports, but is it common for sanctioned competitions and teams to have anonymous competitors? That seems implausible for a number of reasons.
A woman who was good at Overwatch esports would be in a similar position to Danica Patrick. Yes, you'd get some abuse from idiots, but the commercial opportunities would far outstrip a man of a comparable ability. Most rational women would embrace that.
Did she quit at the first sign of trouble?didnt they do the same to the korean girl who also plays OW? Claims she wasnt real and a man and cheating
I just thought Overwatch players had all moved on to Fortnite.
I've never witnessed any kind of harassement to girls online (in mmorpg actig as a girl was the easy mode...) but this is really a stupid thing. I don't know the background of the story but in any case I don't get why somone should act like this.