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Crackdown 3 - Review Thread

Thiagosc777

Member
Not true. Some people surely have played it.

My buddy runs a game site and he got a code from MS for the campaign. He got the code about a week ago. However he's got an NDA and can't post until today or tomorrow.

Media people, some streamers. Not anyone here on Neogaf trolling this thread.
 

Thiagosc777

Member
This is my major issue with some of the Xbox members on this forum. I see this a lot among the small hardcore Xbox fanboys on this site. They will tell you that you cannot bash Crackdown 3 or talk about the gameplay if you haven't played it, but at the same time will bash Sony exclusives they have never played.

I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. That's not bashing, that's asking a question. There were multiple Spider-man games before, but this one was "special" according to some. I wanted to know why.
 

Klayzer

Member
Spider-Man release date

September 7th 2018

YOUR post August 14, 2018, WEEKS before the game released.




This is my major issue with some of the Xbox members on this forum. I see this a lot among the small hardcore Xbox fanboys on this site. They will tell you that you cannot bash Crackdown 3 or talk about the gameplay if you haven't played it, but at the same time will bash Sony exclusives they have never played.



The hypocrisy is real.
That's my major problem with the Xbox faction on this board. They actually believe criticism is some anti Xbox conspiracy agenda always. The selective memory when called out is typical also.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Nah, I’m playing it now, launched 45mins ago in uk, gamepass had pre-load earlier in the week.

And yes, the reviews are arse, because it’s not re-inventing the wheel or graphically the next best thing.

Guess what... it doesn’t have to do either of those things. Sure there’s a few rough edges, but god damn if it ain’t FUN, and that’s the whole point.
 
Nah, I’m playing it now, launched 45mins ago in uk, gamepass had pre-load earlier in the week.

And yes, the reviews are arse, because it’s not re-inventing the wheel or graphically the next best thing.

Guess what... it doesn’t have to do either of those things. Sure there’s a few rough edges, but god damn if it ain’t FUN, and that’s the whole point.

I agree, it doesn't have to do those things, and sure, it can be plenty of fun (I disagree, but opinions and what not). Doesn't make the reviews wrong, though. Everything I've read about it is there in the game, and since it doesn't exist in a vacuum it will obviously be held to the by now rather high standards of the (sub) genre.
 

Ramzy

Member
Seeing all these CD3 reviews coming in

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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. That's not bashing, that's asking a question. There were multiple Spider-man games before, but this one was "special" according to some. I wanted to know why.

You wanted to know why people were overhyping it because YOU believed it was not as good as people were making it out to be. So yes, my reading is fine.

And how many of these PlayStation 4 games do you own?
 
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Thiagosc777

Member
You wanted to know why people were overhyping it because YOU believed it was not as good as people were making it out to be. So yes, my reading is fine.

And how many of these PlayStation 4 games do you own?

I own many. I didn't buy Spider-man because it looked generic af, but every game I criticize I actually played it. Unlike the people here.
 

Jaw1love

Banned
Jesus christ there like a million comment in this thread, the vast majority of these people dknt even fucking play games, they play like half of God of War and then go jack off to some weird anime shit. Folks we get it Crackdown 3 isn't very good.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I own many. I didn't buy Spider-man because it looked generic af, but every game I criticize I actually played it. Unlike the people here.

You can't say it looks generic af if you haven't played it. :messenger_grinning_squinting:

You just destroyed your own logic.

People are saying Crackdown 3 LOOKS like a bad game and they can't say that because they haven't played it.
 

Kerotan

Member
Wait for next gen. This seems to be their motto at this point.
Pretty sad state of affairs.
At this stage buying an Xbox day 1 is just sending MS the wrong message. Any self respecting gamer would hold off and wait for MS to prove themselves. They don't deserve blind faith for the decade they've given us.


Spider-Man release date

September 7th 2018

YOUR post August 14, 2018, WEEKS before the game released.




This is my major issue with some of the Xbox members on this forum. I see this a lot among the small hardcore Xbox fanboys on this site. They will tell you that you cannot bash Crackdown 3 or talk about the gameplay if you haven't played it, but at the same time will bash Sony exclusives they have never played.



The hypocrisy is real.
Superbly summed up that hypocrisy is just embarrassing.
 
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My goal is to expose your arguments for others who might read this. I don't care about the mainstream media, so much so I don't even visit the metacritic website. They aren't gamers nor particularly knowledgeable about the medium.

They aren't gamers nor particularly knowledgeable about the medium? Big words from a NeoGAF member who's "goal" is to "expose" other people's arguments.

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Just to you know there is no “second-party” in the gaming industry.

It is only a buzz word created by a journalist.

There is only first and third party... these games you listed are first-party.
Based on what? You can't call it a first party game if a first party studio doesn't make it, I'd argue that that's a fact and your point is a popular fallacy from people who believe the myth.

They're second party. Why is that fact so hard to accept?

Wikipedia said:
In the video game industry, a first-party developer is part of a company which manufactures a video game console and develops exclusively for it. First-party developers may use the name of the company itself (such as Nintendo), have a specific division name (such as Sony's Polyphony Digital) or have been an independent studio before being acquired by the console manufacturer (such as Rare or Naughty Dog).[6] Whether by purchasing an independent studio or by founding a new team, the acquisition of a first-party developer involves a huge financial investment on the part of the console manufacturer, which is wasted if the developer fails to produce a hit game in a timely manner.[7]However, using first-party developers saves the cost of having to make royalty payments on a game's profits.

Agree with the top, but saying there isn't anything to do in Sea of Thieves is strange...
Ignore me, if a game doesn't have leveling up I likely won't enjoy it and I'm going off of the fact that most of the game is chasing chickens.

Nothing about the character design is similar to Gears or Halo, it was extremely feminine male japanese pop-star look. Heck, the guy looks like a hack n'slash genre character.

It's also true, the concepts were before the partnership. When you look at Kamiyas other games, him having dragons and suddenly some out of place protagonist being edgy isn't really out of the norm honestly.
The point was that to me he was trying to attract the Xbox audience and that the art looked abysmal and/or didn't fit the aesthetic of what they were going for. There seemed to be no story/world-building.
 

YayNJ

Banned
Not sure what people were expecting to be honest. Anyone expecting a blockbuster is either just lying to themselves, or deliberately faux raged just to troll to perpetuate negativity.

The graphics are dated, but I kinda like them. They are cheap and cheerful. The gameplay is incredibly basic, but I found myself losing track of time. I wouldn't pay for it, but as a gamepass title it's perfectly acceptably average.

In short, it's cheap and cheerful and never going to win any awards.

I like it.
 
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Phobia

Member
Peoples expectations for games went from "Hey it'll kill some hours" to "This isn't a masterpiece" in the past decade. This is a gamepass game. Nobody is going to straight up buy this game, or at least not a lot of people. The game is fun and whats funny is most of the people in here flipping out aren't going to play it anyways.
 

YayNJ

Banned
I'm sure MS cares, they just don't know what they're doing.. Look at Windows 10, Windows Phone, Window Store, Surface etc. I'm expecting The Initiative(wtf) to be a train wreck as well.

There's nothing wrong at all with both Windows 10 and the Surface.
 
Another critical dud from Microsoft. Will they ever break the curse?
Forza horizon 4 was not critical dud which was released last year?

Plus Crackdown was in development hell and no one expected it to do amazing.

So stop pretending you shocked.


We have not played new games made by their newly purchased studios. This so called curse part of old MS era and not future MS which looks more promising.


Ori and Gears 5 coming this year plus a new game by NT as well
 
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Peoples expectations for games went from "Hey it'll kill some hours" to "This isn't a masterpiece" in the past decade. This is a gamepass game. Nobody is going to straight up buy this game, or at least not a lot of people. The game is fun and whats funny is most of the people in here flipping out aren't going to play it anyways.


Bro it's nothing but trolls coming out and posting nonsense. Since dayone these people were bashing Crackdown and now pretending to be shocked and disappointed lol. Its actually hilarious
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
PThis is a gamepass game. Nobody is going to straight up buy this game, or at least not a lot of people.

You are right, it is #195 on Amazon's hourly sales list. That being said some people are paying $60 and calling a Gamepass game does not excuse it in anyway. A 10 hour game with 12-year old gameplay and little story is kind of sad in 2019 from a game in development for five years. I had it on pre-order for like four years, but I canceled it thanks to GP.
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Hm. So I'm just tuning in to this thread. I knew what would happen once reviews got out. And I knew how GaF would react. I'm starting to believe I can tell the future.

My next prediction is that once people try the game out for themselves, this game will do great numbers on GP. Many will be shocked at the numbers.

Despite what the internet says, I hope Phil decides to do another Crackdown and make it a pillar franchise like he said he would.
 

-MD-

Member
Two days ago people said the people critiquing the game were about to get served up some crow, then the abysmal reviews flood in and the narrative changed to "it's a gamepass game so it gets a pass".
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Two days ago people said the people critiquing the game were about to get served up some crow, then the abysmal reviews flood in and the narrative changed to "it's a gamepass game so it gets a pass".
Yeah, I dont remember anyone saying there would be crow served -- not anyone who's been gaming long enough to know how the internet works when it comes to Xbox games.

I personally was hoping for an 8 or 7.5. It went even lower than that. Doesnt change my opinion about the game though. It's really good.
 

vanillaFace

Neo Member
They do still have the best racing series available, and Gears and Halo, even if the last few were apparently average. They could really do with Gears 5 and Halo Infinite being fantastic. Aside from those, I think they're aware of the problem, and all the studio acquisitions are their way of publicly addressing it. Whether that pays off? Time will tell. But Obsidian is a massive get.

Gears of War was special, but it was one of those where it stood alone. Every single iteration after the first one was just 'meh'. The magic was had in the first one, the rest were just generic extensions to it IMO. I am playing Gears 4 now on gamepass and I think it's the closest to the first one, but it's definitely not a system seller. I feel the same way about the Halo series. They look like good games, but really, they feel like incremental improvements over the same formula. I don't have a PS4, but when I see the new God of War, I'm kind of blown away. I'd love to see something like that from MS, something that sets apart Halo X and Gears n, n+1...
 

Phobia

Member
I couldn't disagree with you more. Gears of War 3 is a masterpiece. That MP was some of the most fun i've ever had online and the campaign was emotional as well. But what do I know. And to say Gears isn't a system seller is just ridiculous. I'm sorry. Then you follow it up by saying the Halo series isn't a system seller either? What? Those are two of the biggest franchises from the past 15 years. That's just crazy talk.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Hm. So I'm just tuning in to this thread. I knew what would happen once reviews got out. And I knew how GaF would react. I'm starting to believe I can tell the future.

My next prediction is that once people try the game out for themselves, this game will do great numbers on GP. Many will be shocked at the numbers.

Despite what the internet says, I hope Phil decides to do another Crackdown and make it a pillar franchise like he said he would.

Crackdown 3 metacritic is averaging at around 6's so far so I don't think Neogaf is alone on this one

When hardcore Xbox fans like Ryan McAfrey and CrapGamer are not satisfied with the game it should speak volume for you but seems like on the bolded part you already made your mind about this place
 
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demigod

Member
Yeah, I dont remember anyone saying there would be crow served -- not anyone who's been gaming long enough to know how the internet works when it comes to Xbox games.

I personally was hoping for an 8 or 7.5. It went even lower than that. Doesnt change my opinion about the game though. It's really good.

Your memory is short, here you go. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/crac...d-201-5-vs-2019.1472183/page-2#post-253785300


Gonna be some crow eating I think...game is pretty fun
Definitely! And the Cloud destruction is incredible. Some of the explosions and amount of debris falling from on high is jaw dropping.
Game is a blast so far. Crows are definitely getting ate next week.
For someone who dislikes the game so much, you sure are in/have a lot of crackdown posts.

Edit : I added more for you, oh look you even replied to it.
 
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hymanator

Member
I almost bought an Xbox One when Crackdown 3 was announced, but I decided to hold off until after the game was released. I definitely dodged a bullet on that one. I'll pick this up on PC when it goes for around $20.
 

Ramzy

Member
I almost bought an Xbox One when Crackdown 3 was announced, but I decided to hold off until after the game was released. I definitely dodged a bullet on that one. I'll pick this up on PC when it goes for around $20.

Just start a gamepass trial, cancel, then play it for a month for no charge. Can jump on Forza 7 and Horizon 4 as well if you're into that.
 

Tripolygon

Banned
Based on what? You can't call it a first party game if a first party studio doesn't make it, I'd argue that that's a fact and your point is a popular fallacy from people who believe the myth.

They're second party. Why is that fact so hard to accept?
A software or game who's IP is owned by a company is that company's first party IP. If that IP is developed by another developer, the game is still a first party IP but developed by a third party but enthusiast like to call those second party developers.

Crackdown is an IP owned by Microsoft, it is a first party IP but developed by third party developers. Crackdown 1 was developed by Realtime Worlds, 2 was developed by Ruffian Games, and 3 is developed by Sumo, they are all third party developers who also makes games based on IP owned by other companies like EA, Sega, Konami, Sony, Codemasters and Microsoft etc.

Second-party developer
Second-party developer is a colloquial term often used by gaming enthusiasts and media to describe game studios who take development contracts from platform holders and produce games exclusive to that platform.[8] As a balance to not being able to release their game for other platforms, second-party developers are usually offered higher royalty rates than third-party developers.[7] These studios may have exclusive publishing agreements (or other business relationships) with the platform holder, but maintain independence so upon completion or termination of their contracts are able to continue developing games. Examples are Insomniac Games (originally a 2nd party for Sony), Bungie (originally a 2nd party for Microsoft) and Rareware (originally a 2nd party for Nintendo).
colloquial
adjective
(of language) used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary.
"colloquial and everyday language"
used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation

Its a term gamers and games media use colloquially to describe third-party developers who make first-party games. The games are first-party IPs.
 

lV-426

Neo Member
here's the thing. ps3 recovered on the last half of the gen by having HUGE games come out, constantly. I say recovered when in actuality it was outselling the 360 worldwide the moment it launched, but that's here nor there. I mean the mindshare of PlayStation was that PlayStation will support their systems to the bitter end with quality titles. Every single one, ps1, ps2, ps3, and now ps4.

It's part of the reason PlayStations sell well into the launch of the new model, often times outselling the new model for a while.

You cannot be the third place console (by the end of this year, Switch will pass Xbox), with a reputation for having no games, and low console sales, and then expect to light it up out the gate on next generation launch. This is not momentum, this causes hesitation instead.

There are almost more PS Plus subscribers then there are physical Xbox Ones. PlayStation Now Dwarfs Gamepass and every other subscription service. By a huge margin.

Crackdown 3 needed to be, at the end of the Xbox One life, a glimmer of hope, a 99 Metacritic wrecking ball Xbox One X showcase that put all 6 Tflop to use and have gamers on other systems going woah, wait a minute...

This is not how you end the gen, Microsoft. Ps4 will be at 100,000,000 before the end of the year and it hasn't gotten it's Kojima game yet, or Last of Us 2, or Ghost of Tsushima, and even more imposing, a price drop.
 
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Aren117

Member
Played a bunch yesterday. Sadly, the game didn't work with my DS4, idk why, since other WPA games recognize it.

But it is actually kinda fun (played a bit of the first CD on 360 too, but not too much), reminds me of inFamous but more focused on gameplay. Weapon variety is nice, but what's really fun is the platforming, running and jumping around, collecting orbs, etc. Graphics are simple but the neons and reflections of surfaces are cool.

Anyway, I can see this game being a blast to play co-op on the hardest difficulty, just as I expect from a MS game (solo and story sucks, co-op being a blast)
 

vanillaFace

Neo Member
I don't get the people calling this basic and cheap. The game is great, low on bloat, and incredibly fun. I'm loving it personally. Never played CD1 or 2, can't complain. I'm enjoying it more than Arkham Knight which I couldn't really get into. Now THAT was repetitive, overly complicated, and felt like a slow grind.
 

xviper

Member
what a shame, Crackdown 3 flopped and FH4 disappointed

so how the hell are some people saying that Microsoft saved the xbox one ? they killed it, back in 2014 the xbox one was amazing but haters kept shitting on microsoft for no reason, now they say microsoft has changed the xbox one for the best, like, what the fuck ?.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
It’s confusing but MS call it first party as well.

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I guess anything a publisher funds directly is considered first party these days.

If the publisher owns the IP, and that publisher is the platform older, then it is first party, regardless of developer.
 

Iced Arcade

Member
Reviews definitely tanked more than I thought. Eating my crow.

Played for about an hour and it's exactly what i thought it would be and i don't think thats a bad thing at all. Loved the first game and love the comic book art style. If it was different than that, it wouldnt be crackdown.


Definitely shouldn't have taken this long to come out though.
 
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TLZ

Banned
I'm enjoying it so far, but the female commentator's (or whatever she's called) accent is annoying me.

Fuck sake, anyone know if I can change her to the dude who always used to talk? I can't stand her.
 
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