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The next generation of Xbox consoles will be announced at E3 2019, according to a report from French website JeuxVideo.
According to the website, the consoles are code-named “Lockhart” and “Anaconda.” Lockhart is a entry level device without a disc drive and focused on digital, while Anaconda is a high-end device priced similarly to Xbox One X at launch.
As for specifications, JeuxVideo said that data sheets leaked in late January are close to accurate, but would only confirm the presence of SSDs on each machine. Here are the data sheets from January:

The Verge senior editor Tom Warren also chimed in to reiterate that not all of the above specifications are accurate.
JeuxVideo states that release is scheduled for the end of 2020, and that Halo Infinite will be a launch title. Halo Infinite will reportedly also be available for Xbox One and PC, as originally announced, as “Microsoft is seeking to get rid of the concept of console generations.”

As for other titles, the website reports that the next game by Ninja Theory, a newly acquired Microsoft studio, will be available in early 2020.

Credit: Gematsu
Source: Jeuxvideo [French]

Started a new thread as new information (Verge editor and so on) is not covered in the old one nor visible in a 9+ page topic and discussions are based off Jan. 23.
Old thread: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rumo...age-devkit-to-release-after-gdc-2019.1471442/

 

[DanielsM]

If they don't plan on releasing new hardware till the end of 2020, its an act of desperation announcing it 16-18 months before release. Not that they are selling many consoles anyway.

 

[MilkyJoe]

12GB RAM for a 4Tf gpu... Still not buying it.

 

[wipeout364]

1 tb ssd seems crazy. I haven’t Looked lately but aren’t they still really expensive.

 

[DanielsM]

12GB RAM fo ra 4Tf gpu... Still not buying it.

I have no idea why a company would announced that far in advance, that's dooms day crap there. I would probably go out on a limb and say Xbox One sales will be sub 5 million units for 2019 if they announce that at E3.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

do not release too early microsoft or you may find yourself falling into a similar trap like sega

 

[DonF]

PS4 is doing so good, they could ride the wave of its success for like an extra year, and deliver a more powerful ps5 at the same price as the nextbox.

 

[Last Prime]

If they don't plan on releasing new hardware till the end of 2020, its an act of desperation announcing it 16-18 months before release. Not that they are selling many consoles anyway.

Wouldn't releasing it early be a sign of desperation?

 

[Mithos]

1 tb ssd seems crazy. I haven’t Looked lately but aren’t they still really expensive.

Kinda... ~€130-€600 depending on if normal sata SSD or SSD NVme (and depending of brand) for a 1TB drive.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Xbox Lockhart 4 teraflops for a 2020 system is weak af

Xbox Anaconda is the way to go

And please keep the Anaconda name

Just like Xbox Scorpio is more badass than Xbox X

 

[Shin]

Releasing earlier and with a potentially stronger system makes the other guys look bad, pretty much like what happen with the current generation.

 

[DanielsM]

Wouldn't releasing it early be a sign of desperation?

I don't see that way, I mean they have said they are going to release hardware more frequent. Announcing hardware that far in advance - nobody does that, why? It kills your sales, generally speaking.

Just my take, there is a reason why Apple only gives people a few weeks heads up, now that isn't possible with consoles but 16-18 months from E3.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Microsoft is in a tough spot here. Since the XO is doing so bad sales wise, I get it if they wanna put out new hardware as soon as possible and forget this gen ever happened. You know, turn over a new leaf and all that and build new hype with those newly acquired studios. But at the same time, if they show their cards too early, Sony might take advantage over that and release their PS5 later with more advanced hardware and use it yet again as their selling point. PS4 is still selling a lot of units, with several high profile-games on the horizon, so they have the luxury to bait out Microsoft and force their hand. This could be a potential Dreamcast-scenario for Microsoft.

 

[Shin]

I don't see that way, I mean they have said they are going to release hardware more frequent.

Plus Microsoft has been transparent with their plans, that cannot backfire on them and honestly I appreciate if not started to love their approach more as the gen. went on.
On top of all that Microsoft seems to have their eye set on bigger goals with Live on other platforms, they definitely seem to be breaking away from conventional thinking (which is outdated IMO).

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I definitely believe this. I mean it just makes sense, to me

 

[LittleBusters]

Bogus.

 

[Futaleufu]

Unlike other "leaks", the specs seem realistic for a $400 machine for 2020.

 

[DanielsM]

Plus Microsoft has been transparent with their plans, that cannot backfire on them and honestly I appreciate if not started to love their approach more as the gen. went on.
On top of all that Microsoft seems to have their eye set on bigger goals with Live on other platforms, they definitely seem to be breaking away from conventional thinking (which is outdated IMO).

My take, Nadella doesn't think they can compete so time is up, the problem is their "services" are not complete. Another hardware announcement is trying to stop the customers from leaving. imo

Personnally, I don't think any of this game streaming is going to make an impact, its been around for about a decade, nobody cares, not really.

 

[wipeout364]

If they are releasing in 2020 announcing this year doesn’t seem like a bad strategy. I don’t know that 1 year lead time is that big a deal for hardware. Question is can there development studios have a good launch line up ready.

 

[MilkyJoe]

PS4 is doing so good, they could ride the wave of its success for like an extra year, and deliver a more powerful ps5 at the same price as the nextbox.

The new boxes would have been in development from the day after Pro and X went on the market, orders for parts and contracts for factory resources would have been completed for delivery on a certain date.

 

[JordanN]

Unlike other "leaks", the specs seem realistic for a $400 machine for 2020.

$400 kinda worries me.

If that's $400, then what would the PS5 cost, especially if it's more powerful?

When you look at history, every Sony console (besides PS3) always matched the competition in price while being more powerful.

 

[Mass Nerder]

I have no idea why a company would announced that far in advance, that's dooms day crap there. I would probably go out on a limb and say Xbox One sales will be sub 5 million units for 2019 if they announce that at E3.

Spiderman really isn’t that great of a game. Same with The Last of Us.

 

[DanielsM]

Spiderman really isn’t that great of a game. Same with The Last of Us.

I'm confused what does that have to do with the topic?

 

[Shin]

Personnally, I don't think any of this game streaming is going to make an impact, its been around for about a decade, nobody cares, not really.

The un-quoted I don't agree with as it's software sales are up year over year (long story short without getting into you need games or sell X hardware etc etc).
The part that I quoted I agree with yet now there seems to be movement just as there was movement or is with VR, everyone is jumping abroad or have a version.
Whether it ends up finding a market that remains to be seen, personally it's not for me but as they say one man's trash is another man's treasure - figure of speech.

 

[DonF]

The new boxes would have been in development from the day after Pro and X went on the market, orders for parts and contracts for factory resources would have been completed for delivery on a certain date.

Remember that all the leaks for ps4 where with less ram, until the last day when it was revealed. Things can change.

 

[DanielsM]

The un-quoted I don't agree with as it's software sales are up year over year (long story short without getting into you need games or sell X hardware etc etc).
The part that I quoted I agree with yet now there seems to be movement just as there was movement or is with VR, everyone is jumping abroad or have a version.
Whether it ends up finding a market that remains to be seen, personally it's not for me but as they say one man's trash is another man's treasure - figure of speech.

Their user base is going down and now they are losing future market share. Software being up over year is always going to happen, generally speaking in the mid of a gen, there is more consoles the next year.

The problem is their "services" are not ready, yet they are losing market share by bunches before they can launch them, imo. They ran out of time.

https://ibb.co/dbKWnTg

 

[MilkyJoe]

I have no idea why a company would announced that far in advance, that's dooms day crap there. I would probably go out on a limb and say Xbox One sales will be sub 5 million units for 2019 if they announce that at E3.

Unless they are planing a spring 2020 release, though i fear it wouldn't go down too well. But saying that, they can easily swallow the target loss of a few million consoles. And it's not as if people don't know next gen is right around the corner anyway...who knows, who cares? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Smoke6]

Every rumored coming out about MS sounds like desperation!

Partner with Nintendo to boost revenue of your game pass service

Offer game pass the exact time your crackdown 3 releases for $2

Releasing games on an Nintendo console that’s exclusive to your own system

They lost touch with reality when all we want is feature we love and use to just be better and same with the games output. I just want quality games with the few niche games sprinkled in and robust services that give me bang for my $$$.

 

[Yoshi]

The RAM difference confuses me, wouldn't that make it unnecessarily difficult to make games for both systems at the same time? The storage seems to be an easier way to save some money and still end up with similar enough machines for parallel development than RAM.

 

[GermanZepp]

$400 kinda worries me.

If that's $400, then what would the PS5 cost, especially if it's more powerful?

When you look at history, every Sony console (besides PS3) always matched the competition in price while being more powerful.

They (the source) suggested $499 pricetag for anaconda tought

 

[MilkyJoe]

Remember that all the leaks for ps4 where with less ram, until the last day when it was revealed. Things can change.

Aye, but the APU is not up for tinkering, and you need to book in that manufacturing time.

 

[Smoke6]

Spiderman really isn’t that great of a game. Same with The Last of Us.

Here we go with this shit man!

I’d be glad when people grow up and just be honest with themselves as I don’t care what system a game is on, if it’s good it’s good and that’s just the way it is. Sorry it’s not a game on your console of choice but this is really a naive comment!

 

[DanielsM]

Unless they are planing a spring 2020 release, though i fear it wouldn't go down too well. But saying that, they can easily swallow the target loss of a few million consoles. And it's not as if people don't know next gen is right around the corner anyway...who knows, who cares? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah agree, if its Spring it would make more sense, but I am going by the OP that says "scheduled for the end of 2020,".... that would be the death of Xbox One for 2019 and 2020. (They are kind of competing with themselves at that point)

 

[Horsemama1956]

12GB RAM for a 4Tf gpu... Still not buying it.

12 seems fine though? 16 seems low for the more powerful machine. You would think 24 minimum in that instance. Its not all for the GPU.

 

[JordanN]

They (the source) suggested $499 pricetag for anaconda tought

Yikes, that's even worse.

MS better have a huge stack of games lined up. Or at least pump some fresh blood into Rare.

It was only the first Xbox and the Xbox 360 did I ever feel interested in their consoles. But after the XBO, they need to do more to actually stand out.

 

[Mass Nerder]

Here we go with this shit man!

I’d be glad when people grow up and just be honest with themselves as I don’t care what system a game is on, if it’s good it’s good and that’s just the way it is. Sorry it’s not a game on your console of choice but this is really a naive comment!

I was joking, kiddos.

 

[Smoke6]

I was joking, kiddos.

Damn you...

 

[MilkyJoe]

12 seems fine though? 16 seems low for the more powerful machine. You would think 24 minimum in that instance.

I mean 12 seems too much. I have an avatar bet on it being more than 4Tf, fella thinks the base is going to be a 1080p machine only, if true then 12 would be overkill there.

But yeah. I thinking these specs are out, 12tf seems to low really. for a 2021 release.

 

[Shin]

12 seems fine though? 16 seems low for the more powerful machine. You would think 24 minimum in that instance. Its not all for the GPU.

It says it in the first post, read the comment made by Tom Warren.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Releasing earlier and with a potentially stronger system makes the other guys look bad, pretty much like what happen with the current generation.

You really think that if Xbox announces their system earlier and it comes out earlier that Sony won't make sure the ps5 isn't stronger? Lol Not only will they make sure it's stronger or on par but they will make sure it's cheaper. The only way Xbox system is stronger is if it's launched later or around the same time as Ps5 and its more expensive thus negating the power advantage.

Anyway, I'm itching for next Gen so if Xbox jumps the gun first I'm all over it. And it'll be my next Gen mp machin. If they come out after PS5 they lost a sale as I'm not really into their gaming portfolio.

 

[Fbh]

Still think this 2 model idea is interesting. Trying to cover both the low and high end console market.
But even as a cheaper system, isn't 4Tflops a bit low for a next gen 2020 console?

 

[Shin]

You really think that if Xbox announces their system earlier and it comes out earlier that Sony won't make sure ithe ps5 isn't stronger? Lol Not only will they make sure it's stronger or on par but they will make sure it's cheaper. The only way Xbox system is stronger is if it's launched later or around the same time as Ps5 and uts more expensive thus negating the power advantage.

I don't care for console wars and warriors, nor do I appreciate being dragged into one, thank you.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I don't care for console wars and warriors, nor do I appreciate being dragged into one, thank you.

Wth are you talking about? It was a serious discussion and question based on a comment you made. I guess it's the new millennial sensitivity. If you can't handle discussion don't post.

 

[mejin]

I hope sony won't go this route. One sku of ps5 is enough.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I hope sony won't go this route. One sku of ps5 is enough.

I'm good with this. And with Psnow and it's advancements it will still serve as a streaming machine for others.

 

[JordanN]

Still think this 2 model idea is interesting. Trying to cover both the low and high end console market.
But even as a cheaper system, isn't 4Tflops a bit low for a next gen 2020 console?

Maybe the games run at 720p? Ayyyyy.

Technically, it would free up performance 9x.

 

[Shin]

Wth are you talking about? It was a serious discussion and question based on a comment you made. I guess it's the new millennial sensitivity. If you can't handle discussion don't post.

If the digits in your nametag is that of your age then you're as old as me, 40 and I expect you to act as such which seems to be impossible.
I'll leave it at that along with your wishful thinking and won't waste another second on this level of stupidity, have a nice day.

 

[Gamernyc78]

If the digits in your nametag is that of your age then you're as old as me, 40 and I expect you to act as such which seems to be impossible.
I'll leave it at that along with your wishful thinking and won't waste another second on this level of stupidity, have a nice day.

Again dont enter a forum and get butt hurt for some pseudo console war comment you think is happening in your mind. It makes no sense. Stupidity indeed, act your age.

Enjoy your day.

 

[Breakage]

So they would be pushing out a Base and Pro version at the same time (if true)?
But then what would they release for the mid-gen upgrade? A third variant?

It seems a bit silly.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Any system that is announced whether a two console unveil or a single console unveil at E3 will make me happy. Games are looking great right now but I want new info. 450 price point for me will be OK.as long as tech is deserving of it.