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FromSoftware's Next Game Could be Its Most Ambitious Yet | Rumor Wave (George R.R. Martin?)

Bullet Club

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From Software just released Sekiro to rave reviews and with two unannounced games still in development fans are eagerly awaiting the next game in the Souls series. Today we will be talking about one of those unannounced games that sounds extremely ambitious and could even be tapping a serious talent to help.

For those that can't watch the video, the rumour is that FromSoftware are working on an open world game, written by George R.R. Martin and published by Bandai Namco.
 

RedVIper

Banned
I'd love it.
But this sounds like fan fiction, why would they be working with GRR Martin. The stuff he writes isn't really that compatible with what they usually go for, miyazaki takes a lot of inspiration from berserk it would make more sense to work with the guy who wrote that.
 
Only video game written by a famous author i would be interested in at this point would be more from Kingdoms of Amular by R.A. Salvatore
 

iconmaster

Banned
It’s not unthinkable, but From have such a particular approach to environmental storytelling that it’s hard for me to imagine G. R. R. Martin and them meshing well together. He writes long, wordy narratives, right?

Maybe From wants to break out of its comfort zone.
 
I watched 3 minutes and this youtuber hasn't said anything yet. He's talking but not saying anything. Thanks for the summary.

The idea sounds completely random and I have no idea how from's style would fit with a fantasy writer but interesting I guess.
 

Hinedorf

Banned
When it's all said and done, Game of Thrones wont be remembered because of Martin. He failed his fans when he let others finish the story. Anything he produces going forward is an excuse to not finish the one thing that made him. If he's not piggy backing off of existing Thrones lore it'll be a failure, Martin has no pages.
 
When it's all said and done, Game of Thrones wont be remembered because of Martin. He failed his fans when he let others finish the story. Anything he produces going forward is an excuse to not finish the one thing that made him. If he's not piggy backing off of existing Thrones lore it'll be a failure, Martin has no pages.

I'd be surprised if he even bothers to finish it honestly, I'm sure he'll just tell fans the rest of the TV series is good enough of an ending.
 

bati

Member
If it's like Sekiro, I'll pass, thx.

+1. Considering I platinumed all DS games and generally consider it to be one of the best series of all times I was shocked at how hard I bounced off Sekiro. I think From needs a new leadership, someone who can recapture the magic of DS1. Miyazaki is pushing the series too far towards binary nature of combat where you either school the AI so hard it wants to delete itself from the game or you end up eating your own controller. If I wanted that I'd just play Ninja Gaiden Black instead.
 

Ar¢tos

Member
So there will be a sex scene every 20min of gameplay and 1 out of every 3 scenes will be girl on girl action?
Doesn't seem very From Software style...
 

Kadayi

Banned
So there will be a sex scene every 20min of gameplay and 1 out of every 3 scenes will be girl on girl action?
Doesn't seem very From Software style...

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Zerit0gi

Neo Member
Another Rumour for muy friend...


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How are you my friend? I hope you've played the devil may cry 5, what this game tells us a long time, the Sekiro will have to wait for me to buy it ... I'm still trying to pass the all difficulties in DMC.
Speaking of Sekiro, I tell you that I am enjoying the holidays in Japan and you know that I have acquaintances in From Software, and they are very happy of how it is going to the game, the weekend we celebrated the launching of Sekiro in a Karaoke in the streets of Tokyo (I still do not get used to the Sale) and they told me that in the company there was a communication with Konami for a great saga known, I can not reveal more, but I'm a fan of Silent Hill, you know, I asked, and I had smiles " Japanese, "I just hope this is true, a moment like a conversation of loaners, but nothing more. I hope to see you in Buenos Aires in April, Greetings my good friend.

Sorry for the Google traductor...
 

Ar¢tos

Member
What's next?
Miyazaki + Kojima + Decima Engine + SSM making a game for PS5?

Edit: I would probably even pre-order it, if it was true...
 
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Jon Neu

Banned
I'd love it.
But this sounds like fan fiction, why would they be working with GRR Martin. The stuff he writes isn't really that compatible with what they usually go for, miyazaki takes a lot of inspiration from berserk it would make more sense to work with the guy who wrote that.

What?

Martin is heavily influences by Lovecraft and A Song Of Ice & Fire deals with the same themes of death, resurrection and “sorcery”.
 

sublimit

Banned
Id rather GRRM finish Winds of Winter

I'd cut my arm that he has finished his 6th book a long time ago but he hasn't published it because HBO payed him serious money to not do so. All his excuses are just bullshit at this point. The question is whether he decides to publish it in the same year after the tv series is finished or if he will wait for another year in order to make it less obvious.

Edit:Also as much as i like Martin's GoT books i'd rather see FS making their own worlds and stories their own way.
 
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JohnnyFootball

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I'd cut my arm that he has finished his 6th book a long time ago but he hasn't published it because HBO payed him serious money to not do so. All his excuses are just bullshit at this point. The question is whether he decides to publish it in the same year after the tv series is finished or if he will wait for another year in order to make it less obvious.

Edit:Also as much as i like Martin's GoT books i'd rather see FS making their own worlds and stories their own way.
I don’t buy this at all. I believe he legitimately hasn’t finished and is suffering from writers block. There is simply no reason for the book to not be out if he has finished it. Neither the publisher, Martin, or HBO have anything to gain by it not being out of it was complete.

Martin has written himself into a corner with so many dangling plot threads that it’s completely believable he would be struggling. He simply feels the weight of having to deliver the best book ever and that is affecting things. I seem to recall him saying in an interview that some of the online theories ended up being true and he is adjusting his writing because of that.

For the show when you look at the how the series quality dropped for season 7, it’s not hard to believe the show writers had little to work with in regards to source material. While season 7 was entertaining, the writing was terrible from things like fast travel and so much believeability being sacrificed for the sake of moving the plot forward. Things like Highgarden falling so easily to a weak Lannister army never made sense and don't get me started on the whole stupid capture a wight subplot....
 
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RedVIper

Banned
What?

Martin is heavily influences by Lovecraft and A Song Of Ice & Fire deals with the same themes of death, resurrection and “sorcery”.

Do you think the way he writes has anything to do with the way from writes in their games? You can approach the same themes from completely different ways.

Also, as a huge lovecraf fan, I'm really not seeing any huge influence or Martins work.
 

Cato

Banned





For those that can't watch the video, the rumour is that FromSoftware are working on an open world game, written by George R.R. Martin and published by Bandai Namco.


One of those two games has better be BB2. Launch title for PS5. Or there will be trouble,
 

Kadayi

Banned
I'd cut my arm that he has finished his 6th book a long time ago but he hasn't published it because HBO payed him serious money to not do so. All his excuses are just bullshit at this point. The question is whether he decides to publish it in the same year after the tv series is finished or if he will wait for another year in order to make it less obvious..

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Dudes eleventy hundred and has more money than satan for all the book sales and tie-ins at this point in time. The sole reason we have GIfs like this: -

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Is because he's a serial procrastinator who'd rather do anything but try and write himself out of the convoluted mess he's written himself into with the ASOIAF series, whether that be attending fan conventions to have his ego sucked off by rabid fans, working on his GOT version of the Silmarillion* with the gruesome twosome from Westeros.org riding his money banana for all they get, or working on the GOT Spin-off written by Johnathan Ross's Better Half, all the while being cheered on by a bunch of cucked neckbeards always eager to tell you that'GRRM is not your bitch' because Neil Gaiman, doesn't understand why publishers give him money.


*At least Tolkien had the good grace to finish LOTR before embarking on that
 

Shifty

Member
Fuck no please. They've just put out their best original work ever, handbrake-turning into licensed content now would be a godawful move.

One of those two games has better be BB2. Launch title for PS5. Or there will be trouble,
The thirst for Bloodborne 2 will never end :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I remember back when people were vehemently insisting that sekiro would be BB2 just because the trailer had blood and bone in it. Goodness me.
 
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Kadayi

Banned
Anyway, with regards to the rumour. Frankly, I'm not seeing it. I don't think the nature of From Software's games up to now gel's particularly well with the setting, I think your average GOT fan wouldn't be too keen on the travails of Jon Snow : Dark Souls edition.
 
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iorek21

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Do you think the way he writes has anything to do with the way from writes in their games? You can approach the same themes from completely different ways.

Also, as a huge lovecraf fan, I'm really not seeing any huge influence or Martins work.

Literary influence can go further than just similarities in writing style or genre, Lovecraftian themes got subverted after a while (you’ve got Weird and New Weird, for instance).

Although thats not the case for Martins Song of Ice and Fire (its nowhere near Lovecrafts cosmic horror or weird literature), you can see some elements that can be considered influences from Lovecraft, such as the concept of an ancient threat coming to the continent, all the sorcery that was shown during Daenery’s journey, that subplot of Jorah’s turning into stone etc.

A Song of Ice and Fire is between High and Dark Fantasy, and the latter actually uses some things from Lovecraft.
 
I could see this being Dark Souls 4, with a basic outline/treatment being done by Martin. I could also see it not being directed by Miyazaki, like Dark Souls 2.
 

RedVIper

Banned
Literary influence can go further than just similarities in writing style or genre, Lovecraftian themes got subverted after a while (you’ve got Weird and New Weird, for instance).

Although thats not the case for Martins Song of Ice and Fire (its nowhere near Lovecrafts cosmic horror or weird literature), you can see some elements that can be considered influences from Lovecraft, such as the concept of an ancient threat coming to the continent, all the sorcery that was shown during Daenery’s journey, that subplot of Jorah’s turning into stone etc.

A Song of Ice and Fire is between High and Dark Fantasy, and the latter actually uses some things from Lovecraft.

I agree, and that was my initial point, even if Martin and From where writing about exactly the same stuff, they would approach it in vastly different ways, I'd still like to see the result of what they could come up with in a collaboration.

Those are some very tenuous links from GOT and Lovecraft, I'm not sure how you can attribute sorcery as a "lovecraftian element", even though I agree that Dark Fantasy and Lovecraft share similarities, I disagree that A song of Ice and Fire is one.
 

JimmyRustler

Gold Member
Well, it sure would be awesome to finally get an OpenWorld game with great combat. Hope they do not overburden themselves with this though.
 

kraspkibble

Permabanned.
don't believe it.

still i am interested to find out what the next game is. i know sekiro is just out but i love their games. i hope they go back to releasing a game every year. we got DS2 in 2014, SoTFS/Bloodborne in 2015, and Dark Souls 3 in 2016.

i would love a bloodborne 2 but after playing sekiro i don't think i ever want to go back to Dark Souls. they were fun but Sekiro makes Dark Souls feel like a dumb kids game in comparison.

also weren't they working on an Armored Core game?
 
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iorek21

Member
I agree, and that was my initial point, even if Martin and From where writing about exactly the same stuff, they would approach it in vastly different ways, I'd still like to see the result of what they could come up with in a collaboration.

Those are some very tenuous links from GOT and Lovecraft, I'm not sure how you can attribute sorcery as a "lovecraftian element", even though I agree that Dark Fantasy and Lovecraft share similarities, I disagree that A song of Ice and Fire is one.

Oh, at its core, Ice and Fire is very far away from Lovecraft, but it does have some shared themes

As for the sorcery thing, magic in this series seems very akin to the ritualistic magic that we see on Lovecraft, take that Woman in Red (forgot her name) and that whole Khal Drogo’s death subplot.

At least for me, GoT’s magic is not like Lotr’s or Harry Potter’s, it is a ancient, forgotten practice, used only by suspicious or ill intended individuals.

By the way, Song of Ice and fire’s magical elements are in its majority hostile, ancient and forgotten, even the dragons are not that trutsworhty...

That is why I consider sorcery in Ice and Fire/GoT as something akin to Lovecraft’s magic
 

DGrayson

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I'd love it.
But this sounds like fan fiction, why would they be working with GRR Martin. The stuff he writes isn't really that compatible with what they usually go for, miyazaki takes a lot of inspiration from berserk it would make more sense to work with the guy who wrote that.

Another guy who takes forever to finish anything :) Him and GRR should be best friends actually.
 

Raynes

Member
GRRM has 0 plans to finish ASOIAF. Even if he puts in everything to finish it, he will die by the time it's released so he won't get to enjoy any of its success. He's very well aware of this, and he will keep stringing fans along so he can stay relevant and work on other things like this which he will get time to enjoy the success of.
 

GermanZepp

Member
I would love to play in a Dragon's Dogma size map with FromSoftware level design filled with his sick creatures/enemies and a updated bloodborne fighting system.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
Do you think the way he writes has anything to do with the way from writes in their games?

That's precisely why collaborations exist, to bring together the things that makes the parts involved great.

And Martin is a man that knows how to write for TV, he knows how to adapt to a more constricted medium.

Also, as a huge lovecraf fan, I'm really not seeing any huge influence or Martins work.

I guess you haven't read that much of him, then.

ASOIAF is filled with references and tributes to Lovecraft's works.
 

RedVIper

Banned
That's precisely why collaborations exist, to bring together the things that makes the parts involved great.

And Martin is a man that knows how to write for TV, he knows how to adapt to a more constricted medium.



I guess you haven't read that much of him, then.

ASOIAF is filled with references and tributes to Lovecraft's works.

Making references to Lovecraft =! than his work being lovecraftian.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
Making references to Lovecraft =! than his work being lovecraftian.

You seem to have a case of bad reading comprehension, because I said he was heavily influenced by him, not that his work was Lovecraftian.

Some of the best elements of a Song Of Ice And Fire that hasn't been translated to the TV series, is precisely that outwordly terror Martin brings in the books and that he obviously borrowed a lot from Lovecraft. He also literally almost copy entire themes and situations with the same names or pretty similar ones.

To me that constitutes an influence. I don't know to you.
 

RedVIper

Banned
You seem to have a case of bad reading comprehension, because I said he was heavily influenced by him, not that his work was Lovecraftian.

Some of the best elements of a Song Of Ice And Fire that hasn't been translated to the TV series, is precisely that outwordly terror Martin brings in the books and that he obviously borrowed a lot from Lovecraft. He also literally almost copy entire themes and situations with the same names or pretty similar ones.

To me that constitutes an influence. I don't know to you.

You said:

"ASOIAF is filled with references and tributes to Lovecraft's works."

I'm not sure how that's supposed to be "heavily influenced", you can make a tribute to someone elses work without your work having anything to do with it.

Let's just agree to disagree because this is pretty off-topic.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
I'm not sure how that's supposed to be "heavily influenced", you can make a tribute to someone elses work without your work having anything to do with it.

It's not a single tribute, just the Ironborn alone are a huge love letter to Lovecraft filled with dozens and dozens of tributes. And they are not just tributes either, they are an integral part of the history, not just a cute reference.

When you read ASOIAF, you can clearly see how Lovecraft influenced Martin and how Martin tries to incorporate it into his works. For a brief example, just read the chapter of the unreleased Winds Of Winter book called The Forsaken.
 
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