Starfield
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The point of it was to make her become the main villain in the end. There was alot of foreshadowing it throughout the series, alltough it wasn't certain on where her path will lead to, her fate was clouded, till now.
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Game of Thrones Season 8 |OT| A Song of Icy and Fiery Fandom
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Jon Neu
Banned
The episode was entertaining to watch even though a lot of it felt stupid. Dany burning the whole city did not feel like it fit the character. I know they have been hinting at that happening throughout the series, but everything changed so quick with her.
Last week a dragon dies in 5 seconds and this week a dragon burns the entire city, fleet and army with no problem.
Last week a dragon dies in 5 seconds and this week a dragon burns the entire city, fleet and army with no problem.
JLB
Banned
Nah men, dexter is easily the worst one, and by far.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Is the white horse a callback to something I don’t remember? I felt like when Arya saw it there was something I was supposed be interpreting that I didn’t get
Javthusiast
Banned
Big explosions, much Michael Bay, yay. All those drunk Bar mooks will surely love it.
Jon Neu
Banned
Kate saw a black horse in the island.
Arya a white horse in King's landing.
Everything happens for a reason.
MetalAlien
Banned
A lot of scenes are showing up on youtube... many an account suicide happens tonight.
JimiNutz
Banned
It felt a little safe and predictable but the episode was certainly filled with spectacle. Some of the battle scenes were pretty intense and I'm glad we actually got to see King's Landing burn to the ground. There was also a lot of fan service.
That being said I can understand why people wouldn't enjoy it. This felt like "Game of Thrones the Movie". A big Hollywood spectacle filled with cliché and cheese.
That being said I can understand why people wouldn't enjoy it. This felt like "Game of Thrones the Movie". A big Hollywood spectacle filled with cliché and cheese.
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Kittehkraken
Member
Nah, it was straight up bullshit. They had a 100% hit rate on Rhaegal including a kill shot. AT SEA. HIDING BEHIND A GIANT ROCK.
This week was an accurate representation of what those things would actually be like in combat against a dragon. In other words, pretty much useless apart from landing a lucky shot.
Starfield
Member
It is most likely a reference to the bible. "
And I looked,
and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat upon him was Death,
and Hell followed with him. "
Kittehkraken
Member
With that said, the episode was enjoyable.
But again, the writing was sloppy. Made for a good spectacle tho.
But again, the writing was sloppy. Made for a good spectacle tho.
MetalAlien
Banned
She gave up the idea of the iron throne, probably go back across the narrow sea if she can get away.
Tonight on Inside the Derpisode...
Benioff: "We've always wanted to see these two face off again, and they finally did. It struck us that it would be kind of...apocalyptically beautiful, to see them fighting on this stairway to nowhere, with the sky in the background, and the dragon flying by, and the flames everywhere."
Weiss: "We knew that these two were going to die together, at each other's hands, and we knew that the Hound's death had to be a death by fire. So the one thing stronger than the Hound's fear of fire is the hatred for the man who put the fear of fire there in the first place."
Paint by numbers characterization.
Benioff: "We've always wanted to see these two face off again, and they finally did. It struck us that it would be kind of...apocalyptically beautiful, to see them fighting on this stairway to nowhere, with the sky in the background, and the dragon flying by, and the flames everywhere."
Weiss: "We knew that these two were going to die together, at each other's hands, and we knew that the Hound's death had to be a death by fire. So the one thing stronger than the Hound's fear of fire is the hatred for the man who put the fear of fire there in the first place."
Paint by numbers characterization.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
I enjoyed the blood lust honestly
I now see Dany and Greyworm's actions as a reflection of how much of the audience (myself included) has felt the last 3 episodes.
Getting to the end, the endgame, the final of the long journey to only find that it wasn't satisfying at all.
Watching the piss poor defense of Winterfell. The "Character kind of forgot" things. Removal or complete walk back of characters we spent years investing in. The obvious plot armor.
Whats left when all that happens and only Michael Bay remains??? Rage!!!
And for Dany and Greyworm... it's also rage.
I now see Dany and Greyworm's actions as a reflection of how much of the audience (myself included) has felt the last 3 episodes.
Getting to the end, the endgame, the final of the long journey to only find that it wasn't satisfying at all.
Watching the piss poor defense of Winterfell. The "Character kind of forgot" things. Removal or complete walk back of characters we spent years investing in. The obvious plot armor.
Whats left when all that happens and only Michael Bay remains??? Rage!!!
And for Dany and Greyworm... it's also rage.
Starfield
Member
Well we have to take in mind that last weeks episode was directed by David Nutter and not the guy who did The Long Night and This Episode so maybe thats why. OFc D&D wrote it but I dunno how much influence they have by actually shooting it in the way DN did.
Krappadizzle
Member
A ridiculous series of events precluded by completely outta left field character changes. Felt so dumb and undeserved. This will go down as an epic way of failing to satisfy anyone.
It was a sight to behold though, production value has been fantastic across the board. Just wish the writing could have kept up with the A game of the rest of the team.
I bet George RR Martin is glad the show outpaced his books as now he knows what NOT to do.
It was a sight to behold though, production value has been fantastic across the board. Just wish the writing could have kept up with the A game of the rest of the team.
I bet George RR Martin is glad the show outpaced his books as now he knows what NOT to do.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I enjoyed the blood lust honestly
I now see Dany and Greyworm's actions as a reflection of how much of the audience (myself included) has felt the last 3 episodes.
Getting to the end, the endgame, the final of the long journey to only find that it wasn't satisfying at all.
Watching the piss poor defense of Winterfell. The "Character kind of forgot" things. Removal or complete walk back of characters we spent years investing in. The obvious plot armor.
Whats left when all that happens and only Michael Bay remains??? Rage!!!
And for Dany and Greyworm... it's also rage.
Great post, even better gif
Have yourself a drink on me, partner
TTOOLL
Member
Bran warging?
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
For me personally:
Heel Dany disappoints me. I don’t truly get why that was necessary and I probably never will, but I can live with it
Cersei and Jaime getting killed by rubble, that bugs me. Let Cersei take a dragonfire bath, let Jaime do something glorious, I dunno
So is last episode gonna be about how everyone who once loved Dany, outside of her armies, now hate her?
Heel Dany disappoints me. I don’t truly get why that was necessary and I probably never will, but I can live with it
Cersei and Jaime getting killed by rubble, that bugs me. Let Cersei take a dragonfire bath, let Jaime do something glorious, I dunno
So is last episode gonna be about how everyone who once loved Dany, outside of her armies, now hate her?
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Airbus Jr
Banned
Sorry to disapoint you but the book will have the same main storyline as in the movie
GRRM already outlined and foreshadowed everything to D&D including Arya killing NK since couple years ago
If you hate the show you gota blame GRRM too
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Krappadizzle
Member
Season 4 Dany: "I better lock my dragons up because I don't want them to kill any goat herders kids anymore."
Season 8 Dany: "Fuck them dumb ass kids. And they Momma's."
Season 8 Dany: "Fuck them dumb ass kids. And they Momma's."
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MetalAlien
Banned
Someone bookmark this post.
Kittehkraken
Member
Did they though? It was one of those scenes were they could easily pull a "oh look, they escaped in the dingy". Kind of like how Arya kept "dying" but in the end just kept getting a dust bath.
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dan76
Member
I really enjoyed this episode, and I don't think they jumped the shark with any character motivations. It was close, Tyrions plan was dumb, but, family and all that. Still felt a bit rushed but we are basically getting film length episodes now. Some of the characters could have had better deaths that's for sure, but none were bad.
Looking forward to it being over and done with next week... then a period of reflection!
Looking forward to it being over and done with next week... then a period of reflection!
Airbus Jr
Banned
That if GRRM can sustain a good long life to finish his book which been going on for ages
which i certainly doubt
MetalAlien
Banned
Well hopefully he lives long enough to show us the real ending and no I don't think it will be like the show.
MastAndo
Member
I just took it as the most obvious reference - a Biblical symbol of death, i.e. Arya is coming for Dany.
As for the episode, I think the fact that I've abandoned all hopes and expectations after "The Long Night" episode and was able to just turn my brain off helped me enjoy it more than I would have otherwise. Considering that it's all so far beyond repair at this point, I didn't think it was too bad.
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Arkage
Banned
I thought this episode was decent within context of the corner they painted themselves into. Though the Harpoon-stealth-armor the Dragon was wearing is fucking lol levels of stupid. Harpoons literally everywhere, on all ships all around the castles posts. Shows like 3 harpoons in total fired at her and dodged. What a joke. They could've avoided this entirely had they not done the dumbshit pointless insta-kill last ep, and had the dragon die this ep fighting ships or castles. In fact, could've provided literal motivation for her to feel like she should just burn the place down with her one remaining dragon. Imagine if bells were ringing, she pauses to contemplate peace, then one guy harpoons her other dragon out of the sky. Such an easy goddamn solution for motivation.
Qyburns death was the best death this season.
I bet if Arya does kill the NK, it's not mid-book, and it's not "leap onto secret trampoline at him while he's surrounded by his generals" level of stupid.
Also the NK is barely in the books. He's a legend mentioned twice, and already killed long ago according to that legend. And he was a human. And made sacrifices to the Others, but in no way controlled or led them. But, sure, the books will play out just like the show.
Qyburns death was the best death this season.
I bet if Arya does kill the NK, it's not mid-book, and it's not "leap onto secret trampoline at him while he's surrounded by his generals" level of stupid.
Also the NK is barely in the books. He's a legend mentioned twice, and already killed long ago according to that legend. And he was a human. And made sacrifices to the Others, but in no way controlled or led them. But, sure, the books will play out just like the show.
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888
Member
I never liked Dany. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. She needs to die and will next episode. She is not a leader and is a spoiled brat that wants her throne. Then a little adversity comes her way and she snaps like the weak character she is.
The whole time when Johns men are letting their murderous side go I kept playing the arewethebaddiesnow.gif in my head.
The whole time when Johns men are letting their murderous side go I kept playing the arewethebaddiesnow.gif in my head.
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MastAndo
Member
aria
noun
- a long accompanied song for a solo voice, typically one in an opera or oratorio.
Close enough!
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bigedole
Member
I'm still mulling over everything. It looks like the leaked plot points are true at least, though no one really knows how it's going to end at least. I think the only part right now that I'm immediately upset about is that Cersei got an easy death. She should've been killed by either Jaime or Arya after everything she's done on the show. Really unhappy about how they did that.
The rest I'll need to process a bit more. Dany going Mad Queen doesn't feel earned, just a rushed conclusion for the sake of hitting the story beats they planned out. The seeds for this really should've been sown from the beginning.
The rest I'll need to process a bit more. Dany going Mad Queen doesn't feel earned, just a rushed conclusion for the sake of hitting the story beats they planned out. The seeds for this really should've been sown from the beginning.
Jon Neu
Banned
Yeah, those events are going to happen in the books too.
But just you know, actually well written, with a proper build up et al.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Keep in mind GAF that Jamie
1. Killed the mad king because he was gonna kill all the innocents
2. Left Kings Landing to go north and fight for the living
But he now doesn’t care about the innocents and never did
What a way to destroy his arch
1. Killed the mad king because he was gonna kill all the innocents
2. Left Kings Landing to go north and fight for the living
But he now doesn’t care about the innocents and never did
What a way to destroy his arch
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Silent Duck
Member
My reaction to this season so far...
Jon Neu
Banned
I would love for their bodies to never be found, so we can have never ending theories about how they escaped and now live in the summer isles or something.
Let's see. I barely have any motivation to analyze the plot.
Jon took the Kingsroad from Winterfell all the way south to the vicinity of King's Landing, then took a ship to Dragonstone....instead of taking a ship directly to Dragonstone...??? Okay.
"It doesn't matter now." Why doesn't it matter now? Jon is loyal. Jon would be down for marriage. Jon and Dany are hooking up and "in love," Why is marriage being dismissed out of hand by Varys and Tyrion? The topic hasn't even been broached with Dany or Jon.
Why is Varys attempting to carry out an assassination while also making it totally clear to several third parties that his loyalties have flipped, totally unnecessarily? Carry out the damned assassination first. He's not supposed to be this incompetent.
Davos is the "greatest smuggler in the world"? Since fucking when? Okay.
How many scorpion bolts get off in this entire battle, with dozens of scorpions and full preparation for a dragon attack? Two? Three? Okay.
Euron out of nowhere to attack Jaime, because the plot demands it. Okay. Such a dumbass one note character. Also, so much for Jaime going to King's Landing to kill Cersei. His character arc evaporated.
I've considered Dany an immature, unfit tyrant-in-the-making for a good while, so the outcome here is fine, but the transition doesn't really work.
Cleganebowl was choreographed lacklusterly and a major letdown after so much time.
So, that was the Golden Company? A wall blows out behind them and they get slaughtered? Okay. And they're in front of the city wall instead of behind it why exactly? Okay.
Okay.
Jon took the Kingsroad from Winterfell all the way south to the vicinity of King's Landing, then took a ship to Dragonstone....instead of taking a ship directly to Dragonstone...??? Okay.
"It doesn't matter now." Why doesn't it matter now? Jon is loyal. Jon would be down for marriage. Jon and Dany are hooking up and "in love," Why is marriage being dismissed out of hand by Varys and Tyrion? The topic hasn't even been broached with Dany or Jon.
Why is Varys attempting to carry out an assassination while also making it totally clear to several third parties that his loyalties have flipped, totally unnecessarily? Carry out the damned assassination first. He's not supposed to be this incompetent.
Davos is the "greatest smuggler in the world"? Since fucking when? Okay.
How many scorpion bolts get off in this entire battle, with dozens of scorpions and full preparation for a dragon attack? Two? Three? Okay.
Euron out of nowhere to attack Jaime, because the plot demands it. Okay. Such a dumbass one note character. Also, so much for Jaime going to King's Landing to kill Cersei. His character arc evaporated.
I've considered Dany an immature, unfit tyrant-in-the-making for a good while, so the outcome here is fine, but the transition doesn't really work.
Cleganebowl was choreographed lacklusterly and a major letdown after so much time.
So, that was the Golden Company? A wall blows out behind them and they get slaughtered? Okay. And they're in front of the city wall instead of behind it why exactly? Okay.
Okay.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
My first thought when they talked about the bells signaling surrender was that Tyrion would ring the bell himself and that Cersei would could out and something would happen there, like Cersei would take advantage of Dany’s guard being down and slaughter her forces. I thought Cersei was gonna win, honestly
Airbus Jr
Banned
The show has passed the book since long time ago everyone knows this
without grrm writting guideline this has been expected for years, they gota work with what they have, actors in the show arent getting any younger either and wait for grrm to finish his book
how long are you guys going to hold this grudge?
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Jon Neu
Banned
Dude, I'm just pointing out the differences the books are going to have respect to the show version.
I'm aware I have to shut down my brain to enjoy the show. I absolutely loved the episode, as I said.
Stop being so defensive.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Im not being defensive but im glad we can come with a good understanding to each other
MetalAlien
Banned
In the show I picture you as Euron Greyjoy for some reason.
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