TBiddy
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Yeah, that's not going to happen. No way the PS5 is only 8 TF.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen. No way the PS5 is only 8 TF.
bhunachicken
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You know what, I honestly think MS will call the lesser of the two machines "Xbox Zero".
The main one will simply be called "Xbox", like how the current trend of things is to reset the numbering system.
The main one will simply be called "Xbox", like how the current trend of things is to reset the numbering system.
ANIMAL1975
Member
Team 8tf is in tha building
llien
Member
To all the "but it's GCN"-ers:
AMD's bridgman: "You could call it a hybrid but not in that sense... we used to talk about GCN as an ISA, but it seems that most people outside AMD think of GCN as a micro-architecture instead (ie an implementation of the ISA). RDNA is GCN ISA but not what you think of as GCN architecture."
nVidia's ISA is 4 years older than GCN.
AMD's bridgman: "You could call it a hybrid but not in that sense... we used to talk about GCN as an ISA, but it seems that most people outside AMD think of GCN as a micro-architecture instead (ie an implementation of the ISA). RDNA is GCN ISA but not what you think of as GCN architecture."
nVidia's ISA is 4 years older than GCN.
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ANIMAL1975
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We back to Cell2 7nm secret sauce, on PS5 for retro; some discussion on emulation possibilities for Zen2 if the sauce vaporize, and then full fat 180 for original Cell wars. Welcome back!
Rodolink
Member
Late to the thread, dont know if it was already discussed, but I was thinking the next Xbox proposal will be a seamless Xbox ecosystem, where it doesnt matter where you play be it a tablet, a PC or an Xbox console, youll have the same games working on any of them. Console and PC will run games natively and tablet through the cloud. (Ignore me if its a lame comment.)
KlickKlack
Banned
User has been removed. Has been constantly escalating disastrous posts and just being antagonistic for no reason than to appear 'edgy'
1.
2013-17
sony fanboys:
"it's only pure
power that matters.."
2.
2017-2018
MS is coming with Xbox X monster
sony fanboys:
"it's all about exclusives..power don't matter.."
3.
2018-2019
MS investing big in exclusives and powerfull console
sony fanboys:
" its not about power and exclusives, only the loadtimes matters...."
4.
2020-2030
MS has the best console, best exclusives and best loadtimes
sony fanboys:
" the blue light on the controller is that big thing... ..and you know what.... only sony is that matters"
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Ar¢tos
Member
Considering how much they love to follow trends and how much they love stupid names (XBOX sad...), I think they will call it Xbox Woke (and only realise how bad the name is after the release).
FranXico
Member
I could come up with a complementary timeline for the likes of you, but that should stop now. You clearly came in here for console warring and nothing more.
TLZ
Banned
Phil is the devil confirmed.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Lol, that was never a thing.
TLZ
Banned
When I see this on PS4, I can't even imagine what the PS5 will look like at the end of its life.
I know. The latest trailers I've seen for PS4 also got me thinking why do we even need a PS5 now when we have visuals as good as this.
DoctorEkkoUK
Member
I vote for "Mr Spencer's fantabulous box of whimsy and wonders!TM"
TeamGhobad
Banned
Opinion:
I think lockhart is gonna be about 8tflops, they aren't wasting zen2, gddr6, RT, and SSD on a 4tflops machine. it will do 4k but checkerboarded for 399.
anaconda will be 599 14tflops and has more RT, more RAM, faster bigger SSD.
I think lockhart is gonna be about 8tflops, they aren't wasting zen2, gddr6, RT, and SSD on a 4tflops machine. it will do 4k but checkerboarded for 399.
anaconda will be 599 14tflops and has more RT, more RAM, faster bigger SSD.
Ar¢tos
Member
599 is a big no. 14 TFs is also unrealistic. For console form, with what we know of Navi, better set 13tfs as the max possible and that still might cause a lot of disappointments.
TeamGhobad
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sure 13tflops, but my point is that lockhart is gonna be more powerful than people think.
ResilientBanana
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LSWilson
Member
I mean, they should definitely have the power now right?
Ar¢tos
Member
The issue is not so much the power being enough now, but the requirement of per game optimization to make it work. Since the CELL SPUs were used in many different ways (sometimes at the same time) you can't just have generic ps3 emulation like you can for Ps4 (unless you have an ultra powerful cpu to brute force it, which won't happen on a console).
Pyramid Song
Member
Ain't happening, guys. PS Now is Sony "BC" for PS3.
Fake
Member
We learn that NAVI don't use GCN, instead a new archi called RDNA.
First desktops Navi GPU will not have RT, unlike the custom NAVI on PS5.
Ellery
Member
Yeah I think the hope for PS 1,2,3 BC is completely dead.
PS4 BC is obviously the important one and the easiest to pull off given they basically have the same architecture.
Would have been nice for the Metal Gear Collection though and Silent Hill games.
An additional factor of full BC, that some people seem to not consider, is that developers are less inclined to do remasters of their old games.
I will always favor new IPs and new game entries over remastered games.
I do wish for some remastered games including the ones mentioned above and Demon's Souls, but I would always take a new Dark Souls game over remastered Demon's Souls.
(This does not factor in the difference in work they have to do compared remastered vs new game though)
PS4 BC is obviously the important one and the easiest to pull off given they basically have the same architecture.
Would have been nice for the Metal Gear Collection though and Silent Hill games.
An additional factor of full BC, that some people seem to not consider, is that developers are less inclined to do remasters of their old games.
I will always favor new IPs and new game entries over remastered games.
I do wish for some remastered games including the ones mentioned above and Demon's Souls, but I would always take a new Dark Souls game over remastered Demon's Souls.
(This does not factor in the difference in work they have to do compared remastered vs new game though)
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Gamernyc78
Banned
Lol you think Sony doesn't have the talent or ppl to do tht? Don't be naive the issues had to do with the complexity of the cell with bc that is no longer the issue. Your talking about Sony that created one of the best features this generation in "SharePlay" which is feature rich. It is obviously not the same thing but Sony has some of the best talents in the industry.
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midouglas
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Fake
Member
I was typing on the phone. I forget the 'can't' instead of 'can'. Yes, Sony can make software emulation in the same way Microsoft does with Xbox. Can't see why not beside business decision
Gamernyc78
Banned
Lol oh my bad. I agree.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
XBox Z sounds and looks cool imo. Also looks like a 2.
LordOfChaos
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Bogroll
Likes moldy games
People would then call it Xbox Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, some will anyway
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T-Cake
Member
That makes me sad. They need to get remasters done of Infamous and Resistance in that case.
Pyramid Song
Member
Xbox 4
I mean, it has to be Xbox Infinite or Xbox Infinity doesn't it? Xbox ∞. Whole Xbox brand is shifting to basically allow you to play from a (near) infinite number of source devices and therefore most any location. You will be able to play Xbox from your Sony Xperia Phone or your apple TV, or your PC via steam, nvidia shield, Switch whatever you have. Headed to grandma's for the weekend? She's got a potato for a PC but it won't matter, you can play Xbox there too. Also, you can buy this handy dandy console coming 2020!
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FranXico
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And a complete MGS collection including MGS4.
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DoctorEkkoUK
Member
Egg Box three fiddy (dank meme edition)
nowhat
Member
- Did you make the most powerful console?
- Yes.
- What did it cost?
- About tree fiddy.
ResilientBanana
Member
Xbox Titanium
Xbox Cobalt
Xbox Emerald
Xbox Carbon
Xbox Prism
Xbox Spectrum
Xbox Sphere
Forget numbers, let's give it a name.
Xbox Cobalt
Xbox Emerald
Xbox Carbon
Xbox Prism
Xbox Spectrum
Xbox Sphere
Forget numbers, let's give it a name.
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TeamGhobad
Banned
I like Xbox Prime
ethomaz
Banned
While there is nothing... MS fans:
www.thurrott.com
Microsoft Aims to Set the Bar High at E3 - Thurrott.com
Microsoft's E3 conference takes place in a few days, these are my expectations for what the company will announce at the event.
www.thurrott.com
Munki
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Brad Sams expects Anaconda to have at least double the power of the X.
Microsoft Aims to Set the Bar High at E3
Microsoft Aims to Set the Bar High at E3
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