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IGN Article: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare and the Cruel Realities of White Phosphorous

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I just can't, this arms-race to be the most socially-concerned is so disingenuous, so full of overanalytical hot air, it has to be satire ... yet it's not. We are through the looking glass. What have we allowed to happen?
It's a circle jerk of feel good stories. And people in modern day love to be coddled like a toddler. Manbaby central.

But I bet 99.9% of the people agreeing with SJW kinds of issues don't give a shit the second they turn off their laptop or log off from Twitter.

And also self serving. Don't be surprised when many so-called journalists or twitter users ask for personal donations.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
i wouldnt even call him a journalist. mentioned this earlier but it's written by a resetera member who admitted he wasn't even a soldier.
Really?

3/4 of that IGN article is about him claiming to be a military vet and it even showed a picture of him in gear in a vehicle.
 

ruvikx

Banned
Come on IGN, don't disappoint me, i.e. next year I want a "Last of Us 2 and the cruel realities of knife crime" article. Do it. Or a "Codemasters Formula 1 and the cruel realities of carbon emissions & global warming". That'll also be dandy.
 

Helios

Member
The fact that they had to rip off an article from a month ago because they wanted a piece of that sweet outrage just shows how absolutely desperate they are.
The guy is also an absolute fucking moron. Tried to argue with Sophia Narwitz on Twitter ended up saying that COD is "an active war zone"


 

Orpheum

Member
Ah so shooting someone is fine, throwing grenades at people is fine, shooting people from an AC130 is fine even a fucking nuclear bomb is fine...but don't you DARE use WP. Face it shitheads, everything about war is cruel and shitty but this is a goddamn game! why are these people not capable to differentiate between fiction and reality, why are they so mentally challenged???
 
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Shmunter

Member
The fact that they had to rip off an article from a month ago because they wanted a piece of that sweet outrage just shows how absolutely desperate they are.
The guy is also an absolute fucking moron. Tried to argue with Sophia Narwitz on Twitter ended up saying that COD is "an active war zone"



That explains the cobbled together twilight zone tone death article. On top of this, who approves and allows trash like into the public sphere.
 
Watching your comrades get shot next to you: Okay.
White Phosphorous exists but there's no realistic side effects: REEEEEEE people have died cuz of dis.
 

ROMhack

Member
I don't mind these kind of thoughtful articles but it does seem like all of a sudden the conclusion is about what ought or not ought to have happened. People were having this same conversation 10 years ago - remember no russian! - but I don't remember it being as judgmental in its outlook.
 
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petran79

Banned
I never expected the day would come where mainstream media hesitate to report about real use of phosphorus bombs in warfare by all sides, yet it is an issue in video game media
 

Ivellios

Member
The fact that they had to rip off an article from a month ago because they wanted a piece of that sweet outrage just shows how absolutely desperate they are.
The guy is also an absolute fucking moron. Tried to argue with Sophia Narwitz on Twitter ended up saying that COD is "an active war zone"




I actually laughed at this tweet, i think this is the first time i saw someone threatening to throw milkshake at others haha. Best way to fight racists and nazis.
 
Do we even know if this guy is an ex-marine? Honest question.

ERA is full of people claiming to be things they aren't so it wouldn't really be a surprise to see someone living a completely fake life as an ex-marine posting on there.
 
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Do we even know if this guy is an ex-marine? Honest question.

ERA is full of people claiming to be things they aren't so it wouldn't really be a surprise to see someone living a completely fake life as an ex-marine posting on there.
I’ll go buy a hat and eat it if any REEEEEEsetera member was in combat. Have people shoot real bullets at you and you shoot at people to kill them kinda puts life in perspective. All of a sudden being triggered by anime boobies would be laughable.
 
This is an article that the author describes how Call of Duty: Modern Warfare may be portraying the weapon white phosphorous in an irrensponsible way.

Here is some parts of the article:

"White Phosphorus is a material created from the chemical element Phosphorus, which is used in everyday items ranging from matchbooks to fertilizer — but for the purposes of this article, we’ll focus on its use in incendiary weapons. Munitionsarmed with WP are also used for marking targets and screening movement, but even when not used offensively the results are the same: a WP weapon detonates, particles stick to the skin and catch fire; the adhesive nature of these particles makes stopping the fires particularly difficult, and they continue to burn until deprived of oxygen or consumed, making them among the deadliest incendiary weapons in existence. And it doesn't stop there; as your skin is melting and bubbling, the chemical is absorbed into the body through the burn itself, causing extensive damage to your liver and kidneys, eventually resulting in total organ failure. "

"I believe it's perfectly fine to weave a serious narrative about war in video games. But I find Modern Warfare’s use as a killstreak reward a nearsighted glorification of what myself and others consider to be a violation of the laws of armed conflict. Contrary to their overall goals towards realism in its campaign, the multiplayer mode in CoD doesn’t depict the effect White Phosphorus has on the human body in any kind of realistic way -- the developers’ statement in response to their controversial choice to include the weapon actually cited this as a defense. In real life, you don't take mild damage and stagger away, coughing with impaired vision; you scream in agony as you slowly melt while your organs systematically shut down. I don't object to things like WP being examined in games, so long as we depict them as they truly are: a means of causing an extremely painful, slow, and unnecessarily horrific end to a human life. "

"I don’t believe something as legally and morally questionable as White Phosphorus is appropriate in the very specific way Infinity Ward is applying it here. As someone who's seen first-hand what can happen to the human body in combat, I wish Infinity Ward would give this one a bit more consideration. "


Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/09/17/modern-warfare-white-phosphorus-killstreak-2019


I disagree with the article, because i firmly believe that at the of the day this is just a game that people play to have fun.

Sorry if this has already been posted, did not find anything in the search.

This will be remembered in the future as the whinings generation
Damn, every day I wake up and find a new sjw article from someone

STOP. NOW. PLEASE. 😢
 

PaNaMa

Banned
What if the killstreak reward was Sarin Gas or some similar chemical or biological weapon? I take the writer's point. We should feel ..conflicted.. about joyously dumping nerve gas (or WP) on enemy combatants, who are ultimately are just doing the same thing our soldiers are doing - fighting for our country and for what our leaders are saying is right. We should feel uneasy about dehumanizing people or reveling in their horrific suffering.

Obviously this is just a video game and it features lots of ways to pretend kill pretend humans - we all understand that. I love Battlefield and plenty of precious CODs. I'll buy this one too. It's that one game element that gives the writer pause, and I think maybe that its okay to feel uneasy about it. Does he go on to say we should boycott the game or anything that?
 
IGN is write for a retard or what?

Ok... all we know the answer of the question....

and how about this?




Spec OPS the line is a Masterpiece.... and i like how show the atrocity of the war without censored shit.

If we speak of controversial

This scene is better than the crap commercial scene"No Russian" of COD MWF2

Tbf he did mention spec ops and said they handled it much better
 

Fake

Member
So... The guy in the article wasn't a soldier after all? How ironic.
Who payed for doing this bs I wonder.
 
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Seriously though, which is worse. Using white phosphorus on the battlefield....or misgendering someone on the battlefield?

We should all reflect on this.....ha ha ha. I'm just fucking kidding. Here's some Emma Roberts for ya.


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Can you imagine if the gaming press existed in the middle ages?

"We have noticed that when children play war, some of them imitate manning catapults that throw rotten cow heads at the enemy. Is there such a thing as too much realism? Spears and longbows are part and parcel of any serious pretend war, but glorification of chemical warfare is another thing entirely.

If anything, we should teach our children the potential effects of the Plague so they understand the damage they're causing to their enemies and their families when they throw the pestilent heads over the wall..."

(Before he can finish, the village elders declare him a witch and burn him at the stake)
 
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Psykodad

Banned
Seriously though, which is worse. Using white phosphorus on the battlefield....or misgendering someone on the battlefield?

We should all reflect on this.....ha ha ha. I'm just fucking kidding. Here's some Emma Roberts for ya.


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I'd do Anita over her, tbh
 

Dibils2k

Member
its clear some of the replies did not read the quotes... typical

i read the title and came in thinking "what a wuss, its just a game" but then i read the quote and he has no problem with it in the game, the problem is that the damage it does is not correctly portrayed in the game, which i actually agree with

making something so extreme be shown as mild is not great tbh and makes it seem like they included the NAME just to get a reaction
 

Ivellios

Member
What if the killstreak reward was Sarin Gas or some similar chemical or biological weapon? I take the writer's point. We should feel ..conflicted.. about joyously dumping nerve gas (or WP) on enemy combatants, who are ultimately are just doing the same thing our soldiers are doing - fighting for our country and for what our leaders are saying is right. We should feel uneasy about dehumanizing people or reveling in their horrific suffering.

Obviously this is just a video game and it features lots of ways to pretend kill pretend humans - we all understand that. I love Battlefield and plenty of precious CODs. I'll buy this one too. It's that one game element that gives the writer pause, and I think maybe that its okay to feel uneasy about it. Does he go on to say we should boycott the game or anything that?

While i understand your point of view, personally i still dont feel conflicted.

You are not using WP or sarin gas on enemy combatents, just other players on the opposite side in a multiplayer game.

You are not dehumanazing anyone by using a WP on CoD, just having fun playing a multiplayer war game.

Though i suppose if there are people that have a hard time separating video games from real life, maybe CoD is just not for them.

As far as i remember the author never asks for a boycott, only that CoD makes it clear what a horrible weapon wp is.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The fact that they had to rip off an article from a month ago because they wanted a piece of that sweet outrage just shows how absolutely desperate they are.
The guy is also an absolute fucking moron. Tried to argue with Sophia Narwitz on Twitter ended up saying that COD is "an active war zone"




Man these pasty cunts are like a virus, aren't they?
 
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