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The Windows 10 latest update kills game audio and networking for number of users.
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Digity
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I'm liking the sound of this Windows 10 LTSC. May have to check it out for myself.
Virex
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Getting hold of a non evaluation ISO can be difficult. But send me a PM and I'll give you directions
synchronicity
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Strangely? Linux is the truf.
mango drank
Member
If I didn't need Windows (or Mac) apps for work, I'd have installed some flavor of Linux as my main OS forever ago. (And no, Windows VMs / Wine aren't an option; I need-a da power.)
JareBear: Remastered
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I have definitely been having audio issues and thought I was going crazy. Been playing BL3 and something just doesn't sound right.
drotahorror
Member
Hmm, my logitech gaming software doesn't open anymore at startup or at all, and another program I use every day has mysteriously uninstalled itself. wtf.
alife
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Run "gpedit.msc" or search for "Edit group policy" and you can disable Windows Update (Administrative Templates=>Windows Components=>Windows Update. Ignore my OCD, you can just enable "Remove access to use all Windows Update features"). Also disable Windows Update in "services.msc" (Startup type=>Disabled) if you don't use the Windows Store.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
i've been on 1909 since well before it officially released and no problems.
working great for me.
working great for me.
it's not affecting everyone yknow....update and see how it runs on your system. if it is a mess then go back. simple.
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lukilladog
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I wouldn't be surprised if half of the "Windows 10 problems" people are reporting are just faulty computer hardware. It's incredibly common especially in user assembled machines.
People don't even adequately test computers after assembling them. They use mismatched RAM. Then they blame the software when shit breaks. It's just like people who say that they have random crashes/resets. That's not software.
I haven't had an actual computer restart in YEARS. It basically doesn't happen anymore unless you have faulty hardware. Whatever. Let the ignorant whine about nothing and spread more misinformation.
People don't even adequately test computers after assembling them. They use mismatched RAM. Then they blame the software when shit breaks. It's just like people who say that they have random crashes/resets. That's not software.
I haven't had an actual computer restart in YEARS. It basically doesn't happen anymore unless you have faulty hardware. Whatever. Let the ignorant whine about nothing and spread more misinformation.
LostDonkey
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Im having a problem with GamePass again, dont know if its down to this update or an app specific but its telling me the drive that I have all my games installed on, my 4tb HDD, isnt NTFS... 
Apparently quite a few users are reporting the same issue.
Apparently quite a few users are reporting the same issue.
DerFuggler
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Win 7 user here; is it just me or is Win 10 basically Windows Vista: Milleneum Edition?
Please tell me there's going to be a Windows 11... I don't know if I want to build a new rig on Win 10...
Please tell me there's going to be a Windows 11... I don't know if I want to build a new rig on Win 10...
zeomax
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Same here. My Win10 works great for many years now. No problems with updates, no crashes, no sound problems. Most of the problems are caused by the users itself. Just stop trying to "optimize" the OS with some shitty tools. If you can not change something trough the normal UI provided by the OS, don't try it with force, it will break more stuff than fixing it.
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xpresstuning
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I can recall upgrading from Windows 98 SE to Windows XP in 2005. I upgraded to Windows 7 from Windows XP in early 2016, because a significant majority of general development ceased to be available for Windows XP. I did upgrade a couple machines to Windows 10 for testing purposes wen it was actively marketed as a free upgrade (i have several PCs) because you can't beat that price (it was free). But I only upgrade everything wen it is a necessity for my personal use.
The machine i use for video games and general internet activities has Windows 7 64bit.
The machine i use for video games and general internet activities has Windows 7 64bit.
Fuz
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BUild it with 7 or 8.
BlackTron
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But what if the problems go away if they use a different OS?
Hell, back when 10 was new and being forcibly pushed to update, countless people (including businesses) had broken their systems overnight. The inference is that they were working fine the day before, I wouldn't call that a hardware problem!!
nkarafo
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Yeah, no that's BS man.
When you have a perfectly working computer that has absolutely no issues for months and starts acting crazy after a software update then it's the sofware update, simple as that.
Virex
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You're talking out your ass
Mahadev
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Run "gpedit.msc" or search for "Edit group policy" and you can disable Windows Update (Administrative Templates=>Windows Components=>Windows Update. Ignore my OCD, you can just enable "Remove access to use all Windows Update features"). Also disable Windows Update in "services.msc" (Startup type=>Disabled) if you don't use the Windows Store.
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You need this tool btw to re-enable Windows Updates in case you need it because it locks them even for the admin. It can probably change through group policies but just to be safe keep the program installed.
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Actually, it's possible for software to be perfectly valid and just use hardware in ways that reveals the defects.
Someone I knew had a computer that was stable in several games he played all the time but crashed constantly in Half-Life 2. He had bad RAM. When he switched it out, HL2 was fine.
Was that HL2's fault? Nope.
See? People don't even know what they're doing when it comes to troubleshooting problems like this. They just ASSUME their hardware is fine based on false assumptions. OH WELL IT WORKED IN WINDOWS 98 seventeen years ago. IT MUST NOT BE MY COMPUTER. Sure dude.
No, I'm talking from over 30 years of experience with computers.
xpresstuning
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No, I disagree, it's not out of date or obsolete, for now, because it's widely supported by software/hardware developers, generally speaking (and the amount that has ceased development and/or support for Windows 7 is very, very negligible). And i suspect it'll stay that way until late 2022 or January 2023 at most wen the payed extended support is finalized.
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Actually it is obsolete. It doesn't even have full Direct3D 12 support. No serious gamer is still on Windows 7.
And it's not just about graphics. Windows 7 doesn't have the Spatial Sound API to support Dolby Atmos setups in games, etc. No. Just no.
Windows 7 is done.
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I just want to point out how ignorant people are and how shitty they are at troubleshooting computers.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,161294.0.html
Look at this guy. He's on Windows 10. He built a new PC. MAME is crashing and his computer's rebooting. He instantly ASSUMES it's a problem with MAME even though a post later he says that it crashed while playing another game, too.
Look at his last post. After MAME AND ANOTHER GAME CRASHES, his solution is to reinstall MAME. He obviously has defective or misconfigured hardware. Windows 10 does NOT reboot like that unless you have serious hardware problems. He probably never stress tested his new computer. He might not even have matched RAM or an inadequate or cheapo power supply. He'll probably never fix his computer, EAT CRASHES, and then go on the internet and tell people about how hard WIndows 10 sucks.
People are stupid. Windows 10 doesn't just crash, sorry. If it does, your computer hardware's TRUCKED. Get over it.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,161294.0.html
Look at this guy. He's on Windows 10. He built a new PC. MAME is crashing and his computer's rebooting. He instantly ASSUMES it's a problem with MAME even though a post later he says that it crashed while playing another game, too.
Look at his last post. After MAME AND ANOTHER GAME CRASHES, his solution is to reinstall MAME. He obviously has defective or misconfigured hardware. Windows 10 does NOT reboot like that unless you have serious hardware problems. He probably never stress tested his new computer. He might not even have matched RAM or an inadequate or cheapo power supply. He'll probably never fix his computer, EAT CRASHES, and then go on the internet and tell people about how hard WIndows 10 sucks.
People are stupid. Windows 10 doesn't just crash, sorry. If it does, your computer hardware's TRUCKED. Get over it.
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xpresstuning
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Direct3D 12 is not yet a common API because it's not used in a majority of video games and i doubt it'll gain any traction in 2020, because it's just too early for now. It will inevitably succeed 11, but i can't give a good estimate, afterall there are still video games with DirectX 9 that have released in 2019. And then there's Vulkan, which does function on Windows 7, and which is a fine API that is getting relatively good attention and may gain traction in the future.
It lacks numerous features introduced in Windows 10, i agree, and support will dwindle generally speaking in relatively a short period of time (3 - 4) but my estimate is mostly based on the payed extended support and its current market share, so i can't exactly give a good enough estimate. I think 3 - 4 years is a safe bet.
That's why i said that for now it's not out of date, and it's OK to use Windows 7. Windows 7 is generally widely supported by software/hardware.
xpresstuning
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I didn't say there weren't video games that did support DirectX 12, and i already said that it will inevitably succeed 11. So as i've said before. Direct3D 12 is not yet a common API because it's not used in a majority of video games and i doubt it'll gain any traction in 2020 - but i did use the word "traction" wrong here, my mistake. It's silly to state that DirectX 12 will not gain any traction in 2020 or the following years, its support will naturally continue to swell and be implemented.
What you believe isn't an issue as i don't care about you as an individual and your beliefs (because we're strangers, obviously), though i respect you because we share a common hobby. So we're going to converse about it.
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Actually, it is a common API now. It's supported in the majority of new $60 game releases. So I really don't know what you're talking about.
xpresstuning
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It's allright and yes, that number will continue to swell, but i disagree that DirectX 12 is a common API because it's not used in a majority of video games currently on the market.
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And Direct3D 11 isn't used in a majority of video games currently on the market either because people have been making PC games for 40 years. That's a weird argument to make.
xpresstuning
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Fair enough, you could make that argument as well, though i wouldn't see any use in this particular case in which i'm only comparing the list of video games that support DirectX 11 and DirectX 12.
LittleBusters
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Switched to macOS years ago, happy camper. Never giving Micro$hit one more cent.
Virex
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So if something was running perfectly fine and everything is fucked up after an update to the OS. Then it's not an update problem? And it's all of a sudden the software and everything that was running perfectly fine's fault / problem?Clearly your 30 years of experience still can't help you talking out of your ass
Not necessarily. New software could use your hardware in ways it wasn't being used before that are still valid but trigger a hardware defect. It happens. Your hardware also could have gone bad in between updates. That happens, too. Get over it. You're wrong.
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Virex
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Sorry but you are still talking out of your ass.
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