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Wrasslin' Thread 20XX |OT| New Age WrestleGAF

If memory serves me correctly, I do believe he does share the same powers as the Bucks and Cody.

If that's the case, then I feel like it'll have a decent payoff in the end. I ain't worried too much. It feels kinda like a comic book program where the hero (Omega) is pretty soundly beaten by a new enemy (Moxley) and it begins to affect him, leading to some dark times and soul-searching before he pulls it together, digs deep and overcomes.

I'm willing to give it a slow burn--the Elite guys have shown they can craft a story which fans can enjoy.
 
For now being the key word. Unfortunately, I can't shake the feeling that Vince will eventually get his hands on it if Dynamite keeps getting higher ratings.

For sure. As much as I like that Balor has come back, I don't want to see a trend of other main roster guys going there and taking away from the younger guys. I see that as a Vince move.

On the plus side that dude who fought Strong last week was amazing. That was the first time I seen him. If they have more surprises like that I'll be fine.
 

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For sure. As much as I like that Balor has come back, I don't want to see a trend of other main roster guys going there and taking away from the younger guys. I see that as a Vince move.

On the plus side that dude who fought Strong last week was amazing. That was the first time I seen him. If they have more surprises like that I'll be fine.
He was Killshot in Lucha Underground and Shane Strickland in MLW. Dude is fantastic.
 

brap

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Honestly NWA kinda sucked this week. I like Mr. Ken Anderson but fuck Colt Cabana. Fucking lmao @ that one dude with a pic of that DMX album on his shirt though. First rap album I ever bought.
 
I watched Slammiversary on AXS TV earlier. Impact Wrestling is going to be on Tuesday nights. I forget when... 10 maybe? Or was it 8? Damn it. Now they have Impact, NJPW, and WOW. Good job, AXS.
 

brap

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I watched Slammiversary on AXS TV earlier. Impact Wrestling is going to be on Tuesday nights. I forget when... 10 maybe? Or was it 8? Damn it. Now they have Impact, NJPW, and WOW. Good job, AXS.
Fuck is WOW? That Women Of Wrestling shit still going?
 

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For the love of God why does this bitch have to sell whenever someone is hit during a match? Everything she does makes me cringe and takes away from the match. Other than that, I'm really enjoying Allin VS Jericho.
 
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Dthomp

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Another quality episode of AEW tonight. It's crazy how quick two hours of this goes compared to feeling like a 2hr SD lasts for 4 because of all the boring rest holds and same matches each week. Only gripe would be how much offense Darby got while being...well wrapped up. Great womens match, liked the story telling with the tag teams for the overall tourney (Although I cringe a little seeing studs like Pentagon and Fenix selling for Marko Stunt). Pac vs. Moxley next week should give us some more crazy Kenny interference so that's good.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
AEW Dark is awful. Gimmicky comedy trash and Omemega vs Jelly Janela.

I am going to go all Cornette here. I can't believe they had a 25+ minute match with Omega (their big star) taking stupid bumps for a stupid YouTube show. Not even a PPV or TNT show, YouTube. Imagine Reings having a 25 Minute match with EC3 on Main event bumping his ass off LOL.

Not to mention its Jelly Janela. Omega should kick his ass in 10 minutes most. Not needing to go 25+ and an angels wings on a chair to beat him. Let Jelly get his one bump in but this just made Omega look like a chump.

I agree with Cornette when he was talking about how these guys use their pull and politics to do Jobs. Unlike Hogans and HHH's etc who used politics to keep themselves over, this gen does the opposite, but it hurts them. Sometimes you need to put yourself over if you are a star. No one cares about Jelly, but Omega still can be something.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
Thought this weeks of NXT was the most NXT show of all their USA's shows. If this is any indication, Vince is no where near NXT.

Lots of squash or enhancement matches that get over the main stars, while still giving a bit to the new guys. A just below Takeover level match, promo packages and set up for next week. It might not win ratings against AEW but its solid building for NXT.

Thought this was the weakest of the AEW shows so far. Darby basically save the main when he got tied up and still pulled off a few moves, but kinda kill Orange Cassidy LOL.

I don' think either shows were as hot as the past few weeks. It will be interesting to see if the title match helped AEW ratings, or since everyone knew Darby wasn't winning if it didn't make a difference.
 

shoplifter

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I am going to go all Cornette here. I can't believe they had a 25+ minute match with Omega (their big star) taking stupid bumps for a stupid YouTube show. Not even a PPV or TNT show, YouTube. Imagine Reings having a 25 Minute match with EC3 on Main event bumping his ass off LOL.

Not to mention its Jelly Janela. Omega should kick his ass in 10 minutes most. Not needing to go 25+ and an angels wings on a chair to beat him. Let Jelly get his one bump in but this just made Omega look like a chump.

I agree with Cornette when he was talking about how these guys use their pull and politics to do Jobs. Unlike Hogans and HHH's etc who used politics to keep themselves over, this gen does the opposite, but it hurts them. Sometimes you need to put yourself over if you are a star. No one cares about Jelly, but Omega still can be something.


Only thing I could think of was that the match was done as a test for TNT to see how much they'd be able to get away with on live TV. I can't think of any other reason you put that on Youtube instead of TV or PPV.
 
I am going to go all Cornette here. I can't believe they had a 25+ minute match with Omega (their big star) taking stupid bumps for a stupid YouTube show. Not even a PPV or TNT show, YouTube. Imagine Reings having a 25 Minute match with EC3 on Main event bumping his ass off LOL.

It's a new company, so they gotta go above and beyond to satisfy their fans. I would have been pretty pissed if I paid for a ticket to go to Dynamite and Kenny wasn't wrestling. I understand why he wasn't on tv for kayfabe reasons. So him having a great dark match is basically win-win. It also gets eyes on their new YouTube show.

AEW Dark is a great concept. I always loved how goofy and fun they were. One of the things I miss most about going to live shows. Really cool to see them having a way for people to watch them.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
It's a new company, so they gotta go above and beyond to satisfy their fans. I would have been pretty pissed if I paid for a ticket to go to Dynamite and Kenny wasn't wrestling. I understand why he wasn't on tv for kayfabe reasons. So him having a great dark match is basically win-win. It also gets eyes on their new YouTube show.

AEW Dark is a great concept. I always loved how goofy and fun they were. One of the things I miss most about going to live shows. Really cool to see them having a way for people to watch them.

Which is another point I agree with Cornette on, which is they are booking for the live audience not the TV audience.

I won't argue with them, but to me its stupid to put your biggest star on a YT show killing himself for nothing basically. Let Kenny kick Jelly's ass in 10 minutes with Jelly taking his stupid bumps. But for TV its stupid to have your ace spending 25 minutes beating Janela and taking stupid bumps when he has a match with Mox on the 9th. I mean the fans would love to see Mox fight Jerhico in a flaming table match so why not put it on AEW Dark LOL.
 

Dthomp

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Which is another point I agree with Cornette on, which is they are booking for the live audience not the TV audience.

I won't argue with them, but to me its stupid to put your biggest star on a YT show killing himself for nothing basically. Let Kenny kick Jelly's ass in 10 minutes with Jelly taking his stupid bumps. But for TV its stupid to have your ace spending 25 minutes beating Janela and taking stupid bumps when he has a match with Mox on the 9th. I mean the fans would love to see Mox fight Jerhico in a flaming table match so why not put it on AEW Dark LOL.

I'm with ya. We've discussed not getting this stupid Kenny losing his stuff when he left Japan story, but at best this match should have been half as long. Main eventers really don't grow on trees, so DON'T bring them down to everybody elses level. I brought this up before, but they gotta cut down some of these bumps before these guys are done for. Seeing Kenny and others doing suicide dives on the sides of the ring without the ramp is just dumb, these dudes are getting their legs destroyed on the barricades and it's going to eventually end with a broken leg.

Minor gripes, but really just please stop using Kenny to put over Old WWE guys, it makes him look like chump change when they should be praising this guy being a once in a lifetime champion. If there was one dude to make your Roman, Jarrett, Austin, it's Kenny Omega....not fucking Cody.

I haven't looked into Full Gear yet, but if this is anywhere near the 50 buck price point of last two PPVs I can't bring myself to drop that again. The idea of a boring WWE style Cody/Jericho match is enough to bring me to tears, and not the kind of main event I'm dropping real money into
 

brap

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I haven't looked into Full Gear yet, but if this is anywhere near the 50 buck price point of last two PPVs I can't bring myself to drop that again.
Damn, I forgot how expensive PPVs were. Guess I'll be borrowing my friends copy.
 

Dthomp

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Damn, I forgot how expensive PPVs were. Guess I'll be borrowing my friends copy.

I don't think they've talked about these, early on they made it sound like their Big 4 would be the only pricey ones, so there is the chance this could be anywhere from free to my hope of 20 bucks tops. We will see

Edit- Nevermind, checked BleacherReport Live and it's listed as 49.99 US. So no sale for me. Hope it's a good show, but I can't pay that kind of money for Cody/Jericho main event.
 
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cryptoadam

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I'm with ya. We've discussed not getting this stupid Kenny losing his stuff when he left Japan story, but at best this match should have been half as long. Main eventers really don't grow on trees, so DON'T bring them down to everybody elses level. I brought this up before, but they gotta cut down some of these bumps before these guys are done for. Seeing Kenny and others doing suicide dives on the sides of the ring without the ramp is just dumb, these dudes are getting their legs destroyed on the barricades and it's going to eventually end with a broken leg.

Minor gripes, but really just please stop using Kenny to put over Old WWE guys, it makes him look like chump change when they should be praising this guy being a once in a lifetime champion. If there was one dude to make your Roman, Jarrett, Austin, it's Kenny Omega....not fucking Cody.

I haven't looked into Full Gear yet, but if this is anywhere near the 50 buck price point of last two PPVs I can't bring myself to drop that again. The idea of a boring WWE style Cody/Jericho match is enough to bring me to tears, and not the kind of main event I'm dropping real money into

Omega's booking has been inconsistent. He had his non-losing losing streak where he beat CIMA. Then he was kinda turning heel with his promos on BTE. And now it seems he his back to being a face and I don't really see how he beats Mox at Full Gear, so we will be back at his non-losing losing streak (ya Jelly doesn't count cuz it was unsacntioned). And he was playing a big babyface last night. It seems they switched gears and are now bringing back his cleaner gimmick.

Some guys need to use their politics. Imagine if Stone Cold didn't. Kenny has stroke and I guess he doesn't want to be seen as a Hogan or HHH, but Kenny drawing on top will put more money in peoples pockets than 5 star unsanctioned matches on YouTube.
 

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I'm not the least surprised that people are reporting unexpectedly low ratings. The best things about wrestling right now are Bray Wyatt (who was basically buried at Hell in a Cell) and Jericho's TV and interview rips on shitty WWE story lines. That says a lot.
 

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Based Corny again. I'm glad Joey Ryan is at impact. Nobody watches that shit and AEW has enough comedy wrestling.
 

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Based Corny again. I'm glad Joey Ryan is at impact. Nobody watches that shit and AEW has enough comedy wrestling.
Impact is so thirsty right now that I fully expect them to put the world title on Tessa Blanchard at some point within the next 8 months. I'm honestly surprised they didn't have Cage drop it last night so Sami could drop it her as a culmination of their feud.
 
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brap

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Impact is so thirsty right now that I fully expect them to put the world title on Tessa Blanchard at some point within the next 8 months. I'm honestly surprised they didn't have Cage drop it last night so Sami could drop it her as a culmination of their feud.
Are you one of the ChIMPACTzees I've been hearing about?
 

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Are you one of the ChIMPACTzees I've been hearing about?
Nah I have a hard time watching it. None of the angles click with me, and the whole consistently shoving Tessa Blanchard down my throat thing got to be too much for me, so I stopped watching. The commentary whenever she's on screen is so legitimately cringe inducing because it doesn't come off as genuine, but rather as blatant pandering with girl power.
 

brap

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Nah I have a hard time watching it. None of the angles click with me, and the whole consistently shoving Tessa Blanchard down my throat thing got to be too much for me, so I stopped watching. The commentary whenever she's on screen is so legitimately cringe inducing because it doesn't come off as genuine, but rather as blatant pandering with girl power.
Is Tessa the daughter of Chyna and X-Pac? Also Impact seems like one of the last promotions to do that. I thought they always had half naked women acting all sexy and shit.
 
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