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[Bogroll]

Yes, but let's be fair also. Are all consoles same gen? are the X and the Pro "next gen" but the S and the base PS4 "old gen"? what is "next gen" or "current gen" on PC?

Comparing games should be more than just comparing platform features. Just by raw power, a $3000 PC can bruteforce its way to the top in several aspects like Resolution, Shadows, AA, AF, LODS, framerates... but that isn't telling us anything about the "quality" of a game, but the power of an expensive platform with expensive hardware.



I think both Driveclub and GT Sport are more uneven, but when they are at their best they can look very very close to photorealism. I thik Forzas look great, specially Forza Horizon 4 (and maybe they are more consistent) but they don't hit that high point as usually.

Here is a clear example with Forza 7. Despite having much better features, with real reflections, better AA an all, it looks much more flat and overall less realistic than Codemaster's GRID, which isn't really a great looking game itself.

I agree that at very best without digging below the surface Gts does look better just going off lighting. But on the other side the fantasy tracks look awful imo very Mario Kart, yes play them at dawn or dusk and it will hide a multitude of sins and they are dreadful to drive. Forza 7 has Maple Valley which is the worst looking track out of both games but Forza only has that and another fantasy track that track don't look to good, Gts has quite a few fantasy tracks.

 

[phil_t98]

Yes, but let's be fair also. Are all consoles same gen? are the X and the Pro "next gen" but the S and the base PS4 "old gen"? what is "next gen" or "current gen" on PC?

Comparing games should be more than just comparing platform features. Just by raw power, a $3000 PC can bruteforce its way to the top in several aspects like Resolution, Shadows, AA, AF, LODS, framerates... but that isn't telling us anything about the "quality" of a game, but the power of an expensive platform with expensive hardware.



I think both Driveclub and GT Sport are more uneven, but when they are at their best they can look very very close to photorealism. I thik Forzas look great, specially Forza Horizon 4 (and maybe they are more consistent) but they don't hit that high point as usually.

Here is a clear example with Forza 7. Despite having much better features, with real reflections, better AA an all, it looks much more flat and overall less realistic than Codemaster's GRID, which isn't really a great looking game itself.

The X and Pro are this gen so they are the best way to play the games so that is where we should be comparing, yeah the PC will always be thrown in.

now there is a power difference between the X and Pro but there was between the base consoles so you reverting to comparing the base consoles could be to not show how games look better on the X with better resolution and more stable frame rates?

As for the comparison of Forza and Grid I still think Forza looks better and the weather conditions are different. Grid looks brighter and less cloudy where as the weather in Forza looks a lot darker and heavier. I would expect the stands not to be as visible with the heavier weather and it harder to see ahead of you. The car looks way to bright on that video on Grid. Still looks impressive but not as good as forza

 

[Gingen]

No one wants to look at your garbage Youtube videos because here is the reality of what you post. Like seriously discussion closed, you've proven yourself to be completely non-objective and you're wasting everyones time.

Your BS

Oh let's post a janky low bitrate PoS video with no HUD for the game I'm fanyboying over, but for the one I'm not it has one. Similar lighting conditions? Nope, fuck all that noise. Remotely the same environments? Oh of course not, why would that be important?

and then reality...

As usual the Sony haters in this thread take advantage comparing ultra settings PC or 500 € one X pics versus pics from PS4 standard .... because they perfectly know that if they post a comparisons based on fair hardware (standard PS4 vs Standard Xbox one) the situation is totally different...

and then reality...

PS I don't like DC because is a 30 fps racing with bad physics, just like FH4

 

[FukuDaruma]

The X and Pro are this gen so they are the best way to play the games so that is where we should be comparing, yeah the PC will always be thrown in.

now there is a power difference between the X and Pro but there was between the base consoles so you reverting to comparing the base consoles could be to not show how games look better on the X with better resolution and more stable frame rates?

I think it is fair to compare base PS4 games with Xbox One S games, and PS4 Pro games with Xbox One X games. Anyway, I don't think the Pro and the X are considered a "new gen" over the base ones, but an update. Scarlett and PS5 are the "next gen".

As for the comparison of Forza and Grid I still think Forza looks better and the weather conditions are different. Grid looks brighter and less cloudy where as the weather in Forza looks a lot darker and heavier. I would expect the stands not to be as visible with the heavier weather and it harder to see ahead of you. The car looks way to bright on that video on Grid. Still looks impressive but not as good as forza

The GRID video source is clearly lower quality but apart from AA and real reflections, I don't see how anybody can say Forza looks better on that video. Dark rainy weather doesn't mean dull look. Even the water trails and rain effects on the windshield in the cockpit camera look more realistic in GRID, not quite on the Driveclub level but close.

 

[Bogroll]

As usual the Sony haters in this thread take advantage comparing ultra settings PC or 500 € one X pics versus pics from PS4 standard .... because they perfectly know that if they post a comparisons based on fair hardware (standard PS4 vs Standard Xbox one) the situation is totally different...

and then reality...

PS I don't like DC because is a 30 fps racing with bad physics, just like FH4

Is there any benefits to using Pro over base other than resolution ?
Nice detail on the sheep btw.

 

[phil_t98]

I think it is fair to compare base PS4 games with Xbox One S games, and PS4 Pro games with Xbox One X games. Anyway, I don't think the Pro and the X are considered a "new gen" over the base ones, but an update. Scarlett and PS5 are the "next gen".



The GRID video source is clearly lower quality but apart from AA and real reflections, I don't see how anybody can say Forza looks better on that video. Dark rainy weather doesn't mean dull look. Even the water trails and rain effects on the windshield in the cockpit camera look more realistic in GRID, not quite on the Driveclub level but close.

sorry have you never driven in weather comparable to what that video of forza is like? I like in the UK and I have many times seen those conditions.

again this thread is about best looking graphics so comparing at the top end consoles is what we should be doing

 

[FukuDaruma]

As usual the Sony haters in this thread take advantage comparing ultra settings PC or 500 € one X pics versus pics from PS4 standard .... because they perfectly know that if they post a comparisons based on fair hardware (standard PS4 vs Standard Xbox one) the situation is totally different...

and then reality...

PS I don't like DC because is a 30 fps racing with bad physics, just like FH4

Damn, those are some specially bad shots...

Honestly, it is far easier to misrepresent a game cherry-picking good or bad static shots. Long gameplay videos with high Bitrate are a better example. Driveclub gameplay certainly doesn't look as bad as those cherry-picked static shots a few pages back:

 

[FukuDaruma]

sorry have you never driven in weather comparable to what that video of forza is like? I like in the UK and I have many times seen those conditions.

I live in Galicia (NW Spain) which has a pretty similar weather to UK so yeah... but again, apart from AA and reflections, I don't see it looking as realistic as GRID. The GRID source video is lower quality, but specially the cockpit view comparision shows clearly better rain effects in GRID.

again this thread is about best looking graphics so comparing at the top end consoles is what we should be doing

Sure, but that does not prevent from comparing base consoles also, which are still this gen. What isn't acceptable is comparing a base PS4 game to a Xbox One X game, or a PS4 Pro game to a vanilla Xbox One game. Same as it is unfair to compare a top tier PC to any console that is a fraction of its price.

 

[ethomaz]

I think they are all 30fps, no idea if Pro or base. The better quality motion blur and DoF really do wonders, and the lighting engine really shines here. Sure, they are cherry-picked and gameplay doesn't look this good, but I haven't seen any other racing game look this good in any circumstance, specially those sunny shots where most games tend to look flat and unrealistic.

I think this is a good base for what we can expect from next gen?

Nope.

It is 60fps in cockpit view and performance mode on Pro.

And like I said the IQ is the same with the graphic mode on Pro having better motion blur and DOF.

The biggest difference that makes people thinks the graphics are better in replay than ingame racing is the camera angles... that is what make all difference... PD algorithms to camera angles looks generations ahead the others devs.

I believe it is fair to say when people post the pics if it is PS4, Pro Graphic or Pro Performance.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

As usual the Sony haters in this thread take advantage comparing ultra settings PC or 500 € one X pics versus pics from PS4 standard .... because they perfectly know that if they post a comparisons based on fair hardware (standard PS4 vs Standard Xbox one) the situation is totally different...

and then reality...

PS I don't like DC because is a 30 fps racing with bad physics, just like FH4

No, the reality is this. People won't stop talking about Driveclub and comparing it to better looking games, and it's easy to put in its place and by modern standards it's really ugly in a lot of ways. There's other console racers available regardless of power tier that look better, it's shocking how that happens over time.

I don't understand your schtick, you're always complaining that people are presenting better looking games against inferior looking ones and then whining about "$500 console this" or "PC that"... Like isn't that the point here? Who is at fault for Driveclub not getting Pro support? That game will always be 1080p, we can't change that. So if someone is going to use it in an argument you can expect people to use effective methods to combat it.

 

[phil_t98]

No, the reality is this. People won't stop talking about Driveclub and comparing it to better looking games, and it's easy to put in its place and by modern standards it's really ugly in a lot of ways. There's other console racers available regardless of power tier that look better, it's shocking how that happens over time.

I don't understand your schtick, you're always complaining that people are presenting better looking games against inferior looking ones and then whining about "$500 console this" or "PC that"... Like isn't that the point here? Who is at fault for Driveclub not getting Pro support? That game will always be 1080p, we can't change that. So if someone is going to use it in an argument you can expect people to use effective methods to combat it.

Agree with you on all that, I think that driveclub comes up a lot is because it does do rain realy well, other than that it’s a bit meh. It’s funny how all drive club videos are featuring weather and not just a standard sunny day

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Agree with you on all that, I think that driveclub comes up a lot is because it does do rain realy well, other than that it’s a bit meh. It’s funny how all drive club videos are featuring weather and not just a standard sunny day

Exactly. Game looks avg without rain and reflections.

Also, considering this game is a closed circuit game at 30 fps and a delayed gimped online, it's not even an apples to apples comparison vs. an open world game like Forza Horizon with MP and AI at 60 fps.

It's like saying Myst is better looking than all adventure and puzzle games at the time..... in confined criteria like static images.

 

[Birdo]

The first racing sim to use Beam-NG levels of softbody physics will win.

Doubt it will be next gen. But maybe the one after. Who knows.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The first racing sim to use Beam-NG levels of softbody physics will win.

Doubt it will be next gen. But maybe the one after. Who knows.

Shit. I just googled a video. Never heard about this. Crash physics look great.

 

[LostDonkey]

Theres nothing unfair about comparing Forza running on the PC to GT on the PS4.

PC is a viable platform and its not its fault that Sony doesnt allow their games to run on it natively.

The PS4 punches above its weight anyway we can see that with the lighting engines and other effects. Just because a game on PS4 cant be played at its highest fidelity (i.e on PC) shouldnt stop games that can from being in this thread. Thats ridiculous.

 

[thelastword]

As usual the Sony haters in this thread take advantage comparing ultra settings PC or 500 € one X pics versus pics from PS4 standard .... because they perfectly know that if they post a comparisons based on fair hardware (standard PS4 vs Standard Xbox one) the situation is totally different...

and then reality...

PS I don't like DC because is a 30 fps racing with bad physics, just like FH4

TBF, you don't even need to go to base XBOX hardware to see some of these inconsistencies in some of the Forza games...….Even at 4k with the best settings, you can plainly see some very glaring sacrifices, which I've listed many times before...…..Like those soupy textures in Horizon 4 on that hill etc...The tarpaulin flower fields that renders just 5 feet from your car's traverse, with the same redundant grass type, tree type which loops into the horizon. Then we have the low rez 2d bitmap stonewalls, that have no type of physics quality and on and on...…..

Last night, I loaded up Forza 7 and did a few races, I maxed everything, maybe except cars to high instead of Ultra, I had 16x Aniso and 8xMSAA......Side track detail like sand/gravel is abominable in Forza 7, it's all a low rez texture, it looks bad, no depth, dust plumes look bad and unauthentic...….The cars just ahead of me had no plates, looked low poly with bad lighting and shading work...…..The mirror detail was aliased and scummy, with what looks like a jaggy low rez 1990's geometry in my mirror....I did the truck challenge, jaggies everywhere, lots of shimmering...…..I can post screens, but I think the guys who own Forza know very well what I'm talking about.......4k does not solve Forza's, aliasing, low poly, lack of occlusion, no proper lighting and no proper shading issues...…….This game could be 8k and it still wont look as good as DC or GT, the shimmering is really bad in Forza and 8k would not solve that either...….So people want to talk about the aliasing in DC, but it's a 1080p game that could simply use a TAA pass with 16x Aniso, it has POM it has everything and does not look flat for detail, unlike the Forza games.....

Whenever you're ready to end your delusions lol start this video at 1:22

And here's what I'm talking about.....Thanks for that video Hobby, the detail in DC makes the Forza games look a gen behind...…..14 minutes of pure detail and ATD.....That is a game pushing the graphical envelope...…..In 4k with 16 Aniso it will shine even more, unlike Forza where you see most of it's shortcomings (in-game) at 4k, because the shading, the lighting and ATD is bad…..DC on the other hand looks so much better in-game with all the effects, the immaculate lighting and detailed environments and all the PP effects.......I have never been bothered with DC's IQ when I played, unlike Forza........DC is a dream game in motion........I just wish it would get a 4k 60fps, 16x Aniso, TAA patch to see if the persons arguing rez/IQ would admit that is it now 2 gens better over Horizon with such improvements.......Too bad EVO went down man, GT and DC could co-exist, Sony needs a arcade racing franchise like DC.....

 

[ethomaz]

My contribution...

October 2017.
PS4 Amateur.
GTS with day one patch.
I will try to find the same spot, time of the day and car with the actual patch to see if there is any difference.

That other is from March 2017.
PS4 Amateur.
GTS Beta.

PS. I have more pictures on my PS4 but I can share only these ones now because I'm working and these two are the only ones I shared on Twitter

 

[phil_t98]

TBF, you don't even need to go to base XBOX hardware to see some of these inconsistencies in some of the Forza games...….Even at 4k with the best settings, you can plainly see some very glaring sacrifices, which I've listed many times before...…..Like those soupy textures in Horizon 4 on that hill etc...The tarpaulin flower fields that renders just 5 feet from your car's traverse, with the same redundant grass type, tree type which loops into the horizon. Then we have the low rez 2d bitmap stonewalls, that have no type of physics quality and on and on...…..

Last night, I loaded up Forza 7 and did a few races, I maxed everything, maybe except cars to high instead of Ultra, I had 16x Aniso and 8xMSAA......Side track detail like sand/gravel is abominable in Forza 7, it's all a low rez texture, it looks bad, no depth, dust plumes look bad and unauthentic...….The cars just ahead of me had no plates, looked low poly with bad lighting and shading work...…..The mirror detail was aliased and scummy, with what looks like a jaggy low rez 1990's geometry in my mirror....I did the truck challenge, jaggies everywhere, lots of shimmering...…..I can post screens, but I think the guys who own Forza know very well what I'm talking about.......4k does not solve Forza's, aliasing, low poly, lack of occlusion, no proper lighting and no proper shading issues...…….This game could be 8k and it still wont look as good as DC or GT, the shimmering is really bad in Forza and 8k would not solve that either...….So people want to talk about the aliasing in DC, but it's a 1080p game that could simply use a TAA pass with 16x Aniso, it has POM it has everything and does not look flat for detail, unlike the Forza games.....


And here's what I'm talking about.....Thanks for that video Hobby, the detail in DC makes the Forza games look a gen behind...…..14 minutes of pure detail and ATD.....That is a game pushing the graphical envelope...…..In 4k with 16 Aniso it will shine even more, unlike Forza where you see most of it's shortcomings (in-game) at 4k, because the shading, the lighting and ATD is bad…..DC on the other hand looks so much better in-game with all the effects, the immaculate lighting and detailed environments and all the PP effects.......I have never been bothered with DC's IQ when I played, unlike Forza........DC is a dream game in motion........I just wish it would get a 4k 60fps, 16x Aniso, TAA patch to see if the persons arguing rez/IQ would admit that is it now 2 gens better over Horizon with such improvements.......Too bad EVO went down man, GT and DC could co-exist, Sony needs a arcade racing franchise like DC.....

So you said no cut backs in Driveclub so why no water spray from driving through puddles?

 

[Bogroll]

TBF, you don't even need to go to base XBOX hardware to see some of these inconsistencies in some of the Forza games...….Even at 4k with the best settings, you can plainly see some very glaring sacrifices, which I've listed many times before...…..Like those soupy textures in Horizon 4 on that hill etc...The tarpaulin flower fields that renders just 5 feet from your car's traverse, with the same redundant grass type, tree type which loops into the horizon. Then we have the low rez 2d bitmap stonewalls, that have no type of physics quality and on and on...…..

Last night, I loaded up Forza 7 and did a few races, I maxed everything, maybe except cars to high instead of Ultra, I had 16x Aniso and 8xMSAA......Side track detail like sand/gravel is abominable in Forza 7, it's all a low rez texture, it looks bad, no depth, dust plumes look bad and unauthentic...….The cars just ahead of me had no plates, looked low poly with bad lighting and shading work...…..The mirror detail was aliased and scummy, with what looks like a jaggy low rez 1990's geometry in my mirror....I did the truck challenge, jaggies everywhere, lots of shimmering...…..I can post screens, but I think the guys who own Forza know very well what I'm talking about.......4k does not solve Forza's, aliasing, low poly, lack of occlusion, no proper lighting and no proper shading issues...…….This game could be 8k and it still wont look as good as DC or GT, the shimmering is really bad in Forza and 8k would not solve that either...….So people want to talk about the aliasing in DC, but it's a 1080p game that could simply use a TAA pass with 16x Aniso, it has POM it has everything and does not look flat for detail, unlike the Forza games.....


And here's what I'm talking about.....Thanks for that video Hobby, the detail in DC makes the Forza games look a gen behind...…..14 minutes of pure detail and ATD.....That is a game pushing the graphical envelope...…..In 4k with 16 Aniso it will shine even more, unlike Forza where you see most of it's shortcomings (in-game) at 4k, because the shading, the lighting and ATD is bad…..DC on the other hand looks so much better in-game with all the effects, the immaculate lighting and detailed environments and all the PP effects.......I have never been bothered with DC's IQ when I played, unlike Forza........DC is a dream game in motion........I just wish it would get a 4k 60fps, 16x Aniso, TAA patch to see if the persons arguing rez/IQ would admit that is it now 2 gens better over Horizon with such improvements.......Too bad EVO went down man, GT and DC could co-exist, Sony needs a arcade racing franchise like DC.....

Man you come right out of a comic book! Jaggies, have you even got a PC, in fact have you even got a Ps4 cause you don't know what jaggies are by the sound of it.

 

[TheAdmiester]

I'm curious as to what's going on in this picture that was posted earlier.

There's heavy chromatic abberation on the Impreza's rally lights... Forza has very very little CA which you can see on the edge of the tree in this shot, so why is it so heavy on the lights?

 

[DynamiteCop!]

TBF, you don't even need to go to base XBOX hardware to see some of these inconsistencies in some of the Forza games...….Even at 4k with the best settings, you can plainly see some very glaring sacrifices, which I've listed many times before...…..Like those soupy textures in Horizon 4 on that hill etc...The tarpaulin flower fields that renders just 5 feet from your car's traverse, with the same redundant grass type, tree type which loops into the horizon. Then we have the low rez 2d bitmap stonewalls, that have no type of physics quality and on and on...…..

Last night, I loaded up Forza 7 and did a few races, I maxed everything, maybe except cars to high instead of Ultra, I had 16x Aniso and 8xMSAA......Side track detail like sand/gravel is abominable in Forza 7, it's all a low rez texture, it looks bad, no depth, dust plumes look bad and unauthentic...….The cars just ahead of me had no plates, looked low poly with bad lighting and shading work...…..The mirror detail was aliased and scummy, with what looks like a jaggy low rez 1990's geometry in my mirror....I did the truck challenge, jaggies everywhere, lots of shimmering...…..I can post screens, but I think the guys who own Forza know very well what I'm talking about.......4k does not solve Forza's, aliasing, low poly, lack of occlusion, no proper lighting and no proper shading issues...…….This game could be 8k and it still wont look as good as DC or GT, the shimmering is really bad in Forza and 8k would not solve that either...….So people want to talk about the aliasing in DC, but it's a 1080p game that could simply use a TAA pass with 16x Aniso, it has POM it has everything and does not look flat for detail, unlike the Forza games.....


And here's what I'm talking about.....Thanks for that video Hobby, the detail in DC makes the Forza games look a gen behind...…..14 minutes of pure detail and ATD.....That is a game pushing the graphical envelope...…..In 4k with 16 Aniso it will shine even more, unlike Forza where you see most of it's shortcomings (in-game) at 4k, because the shading, the lighting and ATD is bad…..DC on the other hand looks so much better in-game with all the effects, the immaculate lighting and detailed environments and all the PP effects.......I have never been bothered with DC's IQ when I played, unlike Forza........DC is a dream game in motion........I just wish it would get a 4k 60fps, 16x Aniso, TAA patch to see if the persons arguing rez/IQ would admit that is it now 2 gens better over Horizon with such improvements.......Too bad EVO went down man, GT and DC could co-exist, Sony needs a arcade racing franchise like DC.....

What a load of tripe...

"I can't post screens but just take my word for it while I talk out of my rear and lie repeatedly"

I mean do you actually think people take what you say seriously? Do you think people believe you? Give me a break guy, what a bunch of absolute nonsense. I've never seen so many outright lies in my life.

I am surrounded by dishonest people.

 

[phil_t98]

What a load of tripe...

"I can't post screens but just take my word for it while I talk out of my rear and lie repeatedly"

I mean do you actually think people take what you say seriously? Do you think people believe you? Give me a break guy, what a bunch of absolute nonsense. I've never seen so many outright lies in my life.

I am surrounded by dishonest people.

Great screen shots and I can’t see any jaggies in sight!

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Great screen shots and I can’t see any jaggies in sight!

People like him should straight be restricted from these threads, they add nothing but lies.

 

[ethomaz]

Great screen shots and I can’t see any jaggies in sight!

There are jaggies... it is because the forum didn't show the full resolution of the picture (open the pic in a new tab and ask to show 100%).
For exemple on the car, the first picture, the yeallow one, the black scratch on the top of the car is full of jaggies.
The next car, the white, the sides have jaggies too.... on advertising boards... etc etc etc.

If you guys are comparing the pics I posted on PS4 Amatheur has less jaggies... check the cars for reference... in the post you quoted you see jaggies while the pic I posted is hard to find because the solution is better to hide them.

 

[FukuDaruma]

No jaggies at all... and this is on 4K Xbox One X or PC, right?

 

[ethomaz]

No jaggies at all... and this is on 4K Xbox One X or PC, right?

Even the cars more close to the cam is full of jaggies.
Just look at the pics I posted from GTS on PS4 Amatheur and compare the cars.

And my pic is 1080p where it should show more jaggies than the 4k pics from Forza but the solution PD did is way better to cover jaggies than what Turn 10 did with Forza.

The Forza pics looks like little to no AA... it tries to rely on 4k resolution to cover the jaggies but it has no success because 4k still needs AA.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

You guys are insane, no one is saying there is no aliasing, NO ONE. But out of any 60 FPS racer on consoles Forza 7 has the very least amount of it and by a wide margin given the resolution. So making a big deal out of aliasing in F7 is just shitty bait.

 

[ethomaz]

You guys are insane, no one is saying there is no aliasing, NO ONE. But out of any 60 FPS racer on consoles Forza 7 has the very least amount of it and by a wide margin given the resolution. So making a big deal out of aliasing in F7 is just shitty bait.

Moving goal post?

I posted mine GTS pics... look there for what means near no aliasing... you can even do zoom to try to find it... let't seem how much zoom you will need because I spotted a lot of aliasing in your pics without any zoom.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Moving goal post?

Moving what goalpost? You guys are being disingenuous. You're attacking Forza 7 for having aliasing when it has the least amount of it...

It has less aliasing that Driveclub, it has less aliasing than Gran Turismo Sport, given that's the case what are you even arguing?

 

[ethomaz]

Moving what goalpost? You guys are being disingenuous. You're attacking Forza 7 for having aliasing when it has the least amount of it...

It has less aliasing that Driveclub, it has less aliasing than Gran Turismo Sport, given that's the case what are you even arguing?

I did not make any attack to Forza 7.
I corrected you in something you attacked another user.

It has a lot more aliasing than GTS running on PS4 Amateur... are trolling? I did not compare with Drive Club because I have no pic to do that.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I did not make any attack to Forza 7.
I corrected you in something you attacked another user.

Because he's a liar. Why wouldn't I attack him? Read his post, it's total bullshit.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Stop editing your posts after people respond.

 

[ethomaz]

Because he's a liar. Why wouldn't I attack him? Read his post, it's total bullshit.

The jaggies he said and you quoted he is right.

Forza 7 has a lot of more jaggies or aliasing than GTS.... it is pretty noticeable.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

It has a lot more aliasing than GTS running on PS4 Amateur... are trolling? I did not compare with Drive Club because I have no pic to do that.

This is another outright lie.

 

[ethomaz]

This is another outright lie.

Yeap... about that... boom.
I don't need to lie... there is evidence

VS

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Yeap... about that... boom.

A compressed 1200x675 still image is your example

 

[GAMETA]

I'm really sorry guys, but there's nothing else quite like Forza Horizon 3 on the market. 4 can be impressive too, but 3 still has the crown.

 

[Turk1993]

1st Stop crying about pc and Xbox X in this comparison thread.
2nd Stop posting fake low quality pc and base xbox footage
3rd Stop whinning about a game being 5 years old and the other one being new.
4th Stop bitching about the price difference between system, this is not system wars this is a GAME COMPARISON thread.
5th Stop posting low rez GIFS to prove something
6th Stop being a troll
7th Just fuck off!!! if you do the things above.

Moving goal post?

I posted mine GTS pics... look there for what means near no aliasing... you can even do zoom to try to find it... let't seem how much zoom you will need because I spotted a lot of aliasing in your pics without any zoom.

Soo this shit is better than Forza in 4K with 8xMSAA right?

 

[ethomaz]

A compressed 1200x675 still image is your example

Change to large on URL.
Original size
Now be honest here one time... which one has less aliasing (jaggies)? I can spot on my GTS pic but yours is full of jaggies.

 

[Turk1993]

Change to large on URL.
Original size

Here straight out of my Pro in 4K

 

[ethomaz]

Here straight out of my Pro in 4K

There are more aliasing than running on PS4 Amatheur but still less than the Froza 7 pics he posted.
And he thinks others are lying lol

 

[DynamiteCop!]

1st Stop crying about pc and Xbox X in this comparison thread.
2nd Stop posting fake low quality pc and base xbox footage
3rd Stop whinning about a game being 5 years old and the other one being new.
4th Stop bitching about the price difference between system, this is not system wars this is a GAME COMPARISON thread.
5th Stop posting low rez GIFS to prove something
6th Stop being a troll
7th Just fuck off!!! if you do the things above.

Soo this shit is better than Forza in 4K with 8xMSAA right?

The amount of aliasing present in Driveclub and Gran Turismo Sport is insane, and these guys have the gall to talk about Forza 7's aliasing which isn't even remotely as bad.

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It's still a compressed still image, actually go out on a track which is fully lit and drive the car then post some pictures.

Aliasing feeds on motion.

 

[ethomaz]

It's still a compressed still image, actually go out on a track which is fully lit and drive the car then post some pictures.

Aliasing feeds on motion.

I took the picture doing exactly that lol
It is PNG directly from PS4.

Did you know PS4 added PNG to have no compressed imagens, no?

 

[TheAdmiester]

Near no jaggies? Well, if we apply the same searching people applied to Forza pics...

Also, this is under all of the heavy JPG compression.

Aliasing feeds on motion.

In GTS' case this actually isn't true, as (at least on non-Pro PS4) it uses some form of TAA, meaning images in motion are smoother (although blurry, fuck TAA) than completely static. Turk1993's shots are most appropriate here as that's when GTS shows its jaggies.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I took the picture doing exactly that lol
It is PNG directly from PS4.

Did you know PS4 added PNG to have no compression imagens, no?

You took a picture doing exactly that? It's horrible lighting where you can barely see anything and you're not in motion.

Well it sure looks compressed to me, it's being pulled from Twitter so it's not a native quality shot.

 

[ethomaz]

You took a picture doing exactly that? It's horrible lighting where you can barely see anything and you're not in motion.

Well it sure looks compressed to me, it's being pulled from Twitter so it's not a native quality shot.

Nice... now I will show another lie to you because I will post the picture exactly like it is stored in PS4 in PNG.

 

[ethomaz]

Near no jaggies? Well, if we apply the same searching people applied to Forza pics...

Also, this is under all of the heavy JPG compression.

Compared with that Forza 7 pics? Yes... near to no jaggies... now do these squares on these Forza 7 pics... you don't even need... there is jaggies in all places.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Compared with that Forza 7 pics? Yes... near to no jaggies... now do these squares on these Forza 7 pics... you don't even need... there is jaggies in all places.

Ah yes, the old “no but I swear it’s worse”

 

[thelastword]

ethomaz .......You said this is a base PS4 pic below?

Who's pic is this? I wish it had a hud and everything like GT does...…...

 

[ethomaz]

Ah yes, the old “no but I swear it’s worse”

The old?

You see a guy saying the pics he posted has less jaggies than the pic I posted and you come to say that?
Stop to thing a bit about.