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[JohnnyFootball]

I plan on getting the 55" LG C9 OLED or the 65" if it gets priced well enough.

It will be a minor upgrade over my B7A, but I want features like HDMI 2.1, which will be amazing for next gen consoles, although it does almost nothing for 4K bluray viewing.

Right now I haven't seen this panel mentioned in any Black Friday ads, but I am hoping the 55" model gets dropped to the $1200-$1300 price at a place like Costco. If the 65" model gets dropped to less than $2000, I may strongly consider that.

Now that I have got my plans out of the way, what are YOUR plans for black friday? TVs or otherwise.

 

[Trojita]

I've been waiting, hoping to get a decent discount for a high end model. My 65" Panasonic VT60 is now at the point where gaming on it causes the tv to turn off every 15 minutes or so. I'm hoping to get a Samsung Q90R with a potential deeper discount from my work, would love the Sony A9G if the price was actually lowered, or possibly the LG C9/E9 since that seems to be heading to really low prices. It's a fight between the Q90R and C9/E9 unless the A9G does drop in price. Only real reason I'm pondering spending the money on the E9 instead of the C9 is because the E9 panels are supposed to be a better selection.

I'm just really worried about potential motion or juddering problems with either of those sets. None of them will be better than the plasma when it comes to motion resolution and I've heard there's some definite issues with motion on the latest tv's.

 

[MilkyJoe]

My next tv will be the Samsung QE65Q90R but i'm told I am not get another TV until the living room TV dies... Come on cat..

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

I’ll probably pick up another LG OLED. I have two now and want one for my basement.

 

[NickFire]

I will keep tabs on deals for 4k samsung tv's, but probably won't buy anything until an existing tv dies.

 

[Ban Puncher]

Going to hold out a little longer to see Sony's HDMI 2.1 offerings at CES in January.

 

[McHuj]

I'd love to, but the C9 is the only one with HDMI2.1 and I'm not sure if an OLED is in the cards for me. I would really like to get a ~75" TV and OLED at that size is crazy expensive.

I'll probably just wait until the 2020 models are out and hopefully a good portion of them are with HDMI 2.1 (although I'll probably only consider LG or Sony as I've had bad experiences with Samsung)

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I've been waiting, hoping to get a decent discount for a high end model. My 65" Panasonic VT60 is now at the point where gaming on it causes the tv to turn off every 15 minutes or so. I'm hoping to get a Samsung Q90R with a potential deeper discount from my work, would love the Sony A9G if the price was actually lowered, or possibly the LG C9/E9 since that seems to be heading to really low prices. It's a fight between the Q90R and C9/E9 unless the A9G does drop in price. Only real reason I'm pondering spending the money on the E9 instead of the C9 is because the E9 panels are supposed to be a better selection.

I'm just really worried about potential motion or juddering problems with either of those sets. None of them will be better than the plasma when it comes to motion resolution and I've heard there's some definite issues with motion on the latest tv's.

I would always the choose the C9 over the Q90R and the E9. The Q90R 65" currently costs $2197 at amazon, while the 65" C9 can be had for $2097!!! That's a no brainer. The Samungs are pretty good TVs, but they don't have perfect blacks like an OLED and the absolute killer for me when it comes to Samsung is their refusal to support Dolby Vision. I have many Dolby Vision 4K discs and that feature is a pretty big deal to me. The E9 uses the same panel and processor as the C9, but has better audio, which I personally will never pay extra for.

In regards to the Sony A8G and A9G, neither one of those currently support HDMI 2.1, and you are paying a premium over LG, which usually isn't worth it. Right now since Sony's TVs don't support HDMI 2.1, they are not even under consideration for me. Since you are on GAF and HDMI 2.1 provides many fatures that benefit gamers (VRR and 4K/120) I think it would be very wise to take that under advisement. Now, if the A8G and A9G supported HDMI 2.1, I would consider them since I find Sony's image processing to be generally superior despite the fact that LG Display (which is a separate entity from LG Electronics) is the sole provider of all OLED panels.

 

[johntown]

Probably not but if I do it will be a top of the line 4k with HDR (probably a Sony but open to suggestions).

I say probably not as I am happy with my current TV. I would like to get a 4k but I just have a hard time putting out the money when my current TV is fine (its just not 4k).

 

[Dane]

Still paying mine LOL, its a Samsung Q6FN 55 QLED, Sony 905F have a better HDR, but it had a high input lag, and LG OLED have the ghosting issue.

EDIT: Its not ghosting, its burn in

 

[dorkimoe]

I plan on C9 55 as well if it drops just a tad more

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Probably not but if I do it will be a top of the line 4k with HDR (probably a Sony but open to suggestions).

I say probably not as I am happy with my current TV. I would like to get a 4k but I just have a hard time putting out the money when my current TV is fine (its just not 4k).

See my post above. If you're dead set on Sony, it would be much much much smarter to wait until they implement full HDMI 2.1 into their TVs, which will likely happen with the 2020 models. Eventhough they use the same OLED panels as LG, I have always found Sony's image and motion processing to be superior to LG, although I have heard that LG has made some nice headway with the alpha-9 processor found in the C9, E9 and W9.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Still paying mine LOL, its a Samsung Q6FN 55 QLED, Sony 905F have a better HDR, but it had a high input lag, and LG OLED have the ghosting issue.

No. OLEDs have near-instantaneous pixel response times, which is one it's most underrepresented advantages it has over LED. There is absolutely no way this could be happening on an OLED.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I plan on C9 55 as well if it drops just a tad more

Costco currently has it on sale for $1449. I am hopping it will drop more by black friday.

 

[Ulysses 31]

No. OLEDs have near-instantaneous pixel response times, which is one it's most underrepresented advantages it has over LED. There is absolutely no way this could be happening on an OLED.

The newer OLEDs I'm sure, but my LG from 2016 had noticeable input lag, when in non game mode, specially when using motion plus.

 

[Dane]

No. OLEDs have near-instantaneous pixel response times, which is one it's most underrepresented advantages it has over LED. There is absolutely no way this could be happening on an OLED.

My bad, its not ghosting, its the Burn in, its easier to happen on OLEDs.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The newer OLEDs I'm sure, but the LG from 2016 had noticeable input lag, when in non game mode, specially when using motion plus.

Are you not aware that motion plus is not a feature intended to be used with gaming?
Most TVs (Samsung being an exception) that is pretty par for the course. Any sort of image processing will almost always add in a significant amount of input lag, which is why game mode often turns off most image processing. Motion plus should never be used with gaming and I can't see any benefit to it being on when gaming. I tried it on my B7A OLED and 900F as a curiosity, while it did give locked 30 fps a pseudo 60 fps look, it came at the cost of introducing all sorts of odd image effects that made the game unplayable. Motion plus and interpolation simply aren't meant for gaming. Since, Samsung is pretty much the only brand of TV that introduce interpolation without adding in much input lag, I'd be somewhat curious to see what effect it has on image quality.

 

[johntown]

See my post above. If you're dead set on Sony, it would be much much much smarter to wait until they implement full HDMI 2.1 into their TVs, which will likely happen with the 2020 models. Eventhough they use the same OLED panels as LG, I have always found Sony's image and motion processing to be superior to LG, although I have heard that LG has made some nice headway with the alpha-9 processor found in the C9, E9 and W9.

Thanks! In light of that I think I will wait for 2020 or make sure HDMI 2.1 is a feature.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Thanks! In light of that I think I will wait for 2020 or make sure HDMI 2.1 is a feature.

The LG C9 (or B9 since it's cheaper) is no slouch though and you should consider it. LG has never been my preferred brand and I would never recommend an LG TV for anything other than OLED, but their OLEDs are very well built.

As I said in one of my posts above, all OLED displays are manufactured by LG Display, meaning that Sony OLEDs and LG OLEDs (and Panasonic if in Europe) all come from the same factory.

Having said that, if Panasonic would release the OLEDs the US that they have released in Europe, I would buy them over either Sony or LG as they're supposed to be the best in terms of color accuracy.

 

[johntown]

The LG C9 (or B9 since it's cheaper) is no slouch though and you should consider it. LG has never been my preferred brand and I would never recommend an LG TV for anything other than OLED, but their OLEDs are very well built.

As I said in one of my posts above, all OLED displays are manufactured by LG Display, meaning that Sony OLEDs and LG OLEDs (and Panasonic if in Europe) all come from the same factory.

Having said that, if Panasonic would release the OLEDs the US that they have released in Europe, I would buy them over either Sony or LG as they're supposed to be the best in terms of color accuracy.

Agreed.......Panasonic is what my current TV and the quality is superb.

 

[pesaddict]

LG C9 65" £1999 strong rumor over on avforums. But panel uniformity is a problem and rumors of panel grading by LG looking the E9 instead hopefully that will drop to £2,500.

 

[j0hnnix]

Im holding out for HDMI 2.1, my Sony 930e is still great, so it's hard to upgrade atm.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

LG C9 65" £1999 strong rumor over on avforums. But panel uniformity is a problem and rumors of panel grading by LG looking the E9 instead hopefully that will drop to £2,500.

I have never anything credible of panel uniformity being a problem.

Please post a link to the AVS forums.

 

[Jooxed]

My next tv will be the Samsung QE65Q90R but i'm told I am not get another TV until the living room TV dies... Come on cat..

LOL i just got a new TV because my wife was playing with the dog and threw the ball and must've broke something under the screen because a large portion of the screen went dark. Obviously I had to act mad but man I was not upset to see that 55" 1080p Vizio go.

 

[Trojita]

I would always the choose the C9 over the Q90R and the E9. The Q90R 65" currently costs $2197 at amazon, while the 65" C9 can be had for $2097!!! That's a no brainer. The Samungs are pretty good TVs, but they don't have perfect blacks like an OLED and the absolute killer for me when it comes to Samsung is their refusal to support Dolby Vision. I have many Dolby Vision 4K discs and that feature is a pretty big deal to me. The E9 uses the same panel and processor as the C9, but has better audio, which I personally will never pay extra for.

In regards to the Sony A8G and A9G, neither one of those currently support HDMI 2.1, and you are paying a premium over LG, which usually isn't worth it. Right now since Sony's TVs don't support HDMI 2.1, they are not even under consideration for me. Since you are on GAF and HDMI 2.1 provides many fatures that benefit gamers (VRR and 4K/120) I think it would be very wise to take that under advisement. Now, if the A8G and A9G supported HDMI 2.1, I would consider them since I find Sony's image processing to be generally superior despite the fact that LG Display (which is a separate entity from LG Electronics) is the sole provider of all OLED panels.

I'm expecting the Q90R through work to be sub $1999. It was already $1999 a couple of months ago. There's the potential for the 75" to be low enough as well.

Looking at the E9 is just because I don't want to deal with the panel lottery. LG allegedly gives the best panels to Sony and their own E9 class and then uses all of the non-A rated panels for their C line.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I've been eyeing the tcl 6 series which is already low like 500-599 now on Amazon but if the 55 goes to 450-500 I'm all over it.

I have a tcl S series and even though it's not true hdr the TV looks great!

 

[Blood Borne]

Yep. Plan on getting the LG C9 65. In my opinion, best TV on the market. It is the most future-proofed TV.

 

[Chastten]

Still using a 10 year old Samsung LE32B450 720p TV as I refuse to upgrade electronics that still function perfectly. Doubt it'll die within the next 3 weeks, so I'll probably only buy some games or Switch controllers if those get discounted

 

[Blood Borne]

LG C9 65" £1999 strong rumor over on avforums. But panel uniformity is a problem and rumors of panel grading by LG looking the E9 instead hopefully that will drop to £2,500.

Really? I’ve never heard of any such issues with the C9. That’s the TV I have my eyes on. My budget is £2000. Really don’t want to go above that.
More so, I heard the only difference between C9 and E9, is that the E9 has better sound, other than that, virtually no difference between the two.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

I already have a 65’ OLED. When them Micro-LED coming out? I wonder if they’ll come out like leggos.

 

[pesaddict]

I have never anything credible of panel uniformity being a problem.

Please post a link to the AVS forums.

Answered - Has anyone heard of OLED panel grading done at LG?

I was browsing another forum and came across a post from 2 U.S. calibrators(one is definitely well known calibrator from the Pioneer Kuro days and US VE shootout with the Panasonic plasmas) who claim they know for a fact that LG grades panels and allocated the best panels for LG OLEDs E and...

www.avforums.com

Blood Borne
Yeah i was looking C9 at first as well but fkt off reading this thread

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Answered - Has anyone heard of OLED panel grading done at LG?

I was browsing another forum and came across a post from 2 U.S. calibrators(one is definitely well known calibrator from the Pioneer Kuro days and US VE shootout with the Panasonic plasmas) who claim they know for a fact that LG grades panels and allocated the best panels for LG OLEDs E and...

www.avforums.com

AV Forums and AVS forum are two different things. AVS forum was known as the forum that was pro-HD-DVD back in the day. It's probably Freedom Gates favorite forum.

 

[base]

Definitely OLED this time, with HDMI 2.1.

 

[pesaddict]

There loads of C9

AV Forums and AVS forum are two different things. AVS forum was known as the forum that was pro-HD-DVD back in the day. It's probably Freedom Gates favorite forum.

Never used avs before but there seems to be alot of uk C9'ers with image retention problems.

 

[Belmonte]

No. In my country everyone calls Black Friday, Black Fraud.

 

[Ivellios]

No, this year i will focus on buying a new PC.

Next year when next gen consoles launch then i will get whatever the best mid budget tv is at the time.

No. In my country everyone calls Black Friday, Black Fraud.

Brazil? If so yeah true enough, though you can find some actual good deals as well.

 

[Pejo]

Man I hadn't realized how far the 70" LEDs have dropped in price. It seems like you can get something decent for 900-1200 now. That's a huge drop from when I was looking at them just a few years ago.

 

[Belmonte]

Brazil? If so yeah true enough, though you can find some actual good deals as well.

Yeah, Brazil.

I wish we get a good Steam sale at least.

 

[Trojita]

Samsung's Benefit site saying they have black friday pricing right now........ but the price is higher than it was in September.

65" Q90R
September: $1999
November: $2177

75" Q90R
September: $2800!
November: $3394

From what I can see is that they seem to be trying to match the retail sales price right now.

C'mon Samsung.

 

[TacosNSalsa]

I might . Right now I watch TV on the Playstation 3d Display . My room is pretty small and my tv is like 3 feet from my bed on the side of it so I don't want anything too big lest I go freaking blind . Maybe a 32 inch? But I would like a 4k tv to go with the Firestick 4k I bought .

 

[Inanilmaz]

Im waiting for the new sony 2020 lineup

 

[bitbydeath]

I’m going to hold out until late next year to see how far 8K’s drop in price before PS5 releases.

 

[TheUsual]

My brother in law works at Best Buy. He always says to avoid TVs on black friday as those are usually low cost / low quality tvs (usually). If you want a good quality tv: wait for the super bowl tv sales. That is the time to get a good tv at a good price.

 

[kiphalfton]

I plan on getting the 55" LG C9 OLED or the 65" if it gets priced well enough.

It will be a minor upgrade over my B7A, but I want features like HDMI 2.1, which will be amazing for next gen consoles, although it does almost nothing for 4K bluray viewing.

Right now I haven't seen this panel mentioned in any Black Friday ads, but I am hoping the 55" model gets dropped to the $1200-$1300 price at a place like Costco. If the 65" model gets dropped to less than $2000, I may strongly consider that.

Now that I have got my plans out of the way, what are YOUR plans for black friday? TVs or otherwise.

Costco ad has been released and there were no good deals on the C9, iirc. It was in the ad, but it was a crqppy price.

 

[Trojita]

My brother in law works at Best Buy. He always says to avoid TVs on black friday as those are usually low cost / low quality tvs (usually). If you want a good quality tv: wait for the super bowl tv sales. That is the time to get a good tv at a good price.

Yeah that's the problem with black friday is that stores are more likely to advertise "door buster" pricing of low quality tv's (with limited availability) to get the horde in the store. Any decent TV discounts may happen a little bit before to run up to black friday or possibly around cyber monday.

 

[kiphalfton]

Also check out slickdeals, as there have been some 65" C9's for $1700, that are sold on rakuten/ebay/google express by third party authorized dealers

 

[scydrex]

I wanted to but sold my Pro and thinking of getting a slim maybe. Next year when the PS5 comes out then i will get a new tv.

 

[Rossco EZ]

I plan on getting the 55" LG C9 OLED or the 65" if it gets priced well enough.

It will be a minor upgrade over my B7A, but I want features like HDMI 2.1, which will be amazing for next gen consoles, although it does almost nothing for 4K bluray viewing.

Right now I haven't seen this panel mentioned in any Black Friday ads, but I am hoping the 55" model gets dropped to the $1200-$1300 price at a place like Costco. If the 65" model gets dropped to less than $2000, I may strongly consider that.

Now that I have got my plans out of the way, what are YOUR plans for black friday? TVs or otherwise.

was going to wait until black friday but picked up the C9 OLED 2 days ago and wow the tv is unreal. can’t fault it up to now, definitely recommend it to anyone thinking about getting a new tv.

 

[kiphalfton]

Feel a bit conflicted. I am interested in the TCL 55R625 at $600, as it's QLED... but I am tempted by the 55" C9, as its OLED but dunno if I can justify spending >$1K on a 55" TV.

Is there a wide enough margin between QLED and OLED to justify a $600+ difference?

 

[Sosokrates]

Is the LGc9 worth the money over the LGb9?

As far as I know the b9 still has hdmi 2.1 and vrr, the only difference is a slower SoC?