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Moon landing conspiracy and Flat Earth conspiracy theories go here and nowhere else
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Oh but there are plenty of footage of polar day in Antarctica....
Ofc fatters will always say they are fake
Also what about "noone can go to Antarctica because of treaty" if they aknolwedge that there are "plenty of tourists in the south pole"?
If there are plenty of tourists, why not a single flat earther go there? Afterall....theres the biggest secret in the history of mankind within reach!
AquaticSquirrel
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Also try sailing arround antarctica going clockwise and see if its on your left or right side
About videos of rockets supposedly hitting the dome at 73 miles. In flat earth model/fantasy the sun about 3000 miles high and its inside the dome....so how could it hit the dome at 73 miles altitude if its suppose to be at least 41 times higher?
Well heres simpler explanation about whats happening in those vids. Its called yo-yo de-spin. Releasing cables with some weights transfers angular momentum to the weights which is reduces the spin instantly.
The same principle is used by figure skaters. When they want to stop spinning they simple spread their arms as wide as possible.
About videos of rockets supposedly hitting the dome at 73 miles. In flat earth model/fantasy the sun about 3000 miles high and its inside the dome....so how could it hit the dome at 73 miles altitude if its suppose to be at least 41 times higher?
Well heres simpler explanation about whats happening in those vids. Its called yo-yo de-spin. Releasing cables with some weights transfers angular momentum to the weights which is reduces the spin instantly.
The same principle is used by figure skaters. When they want to stop spinning they simple spread their arms as wide as possible.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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Supposedly they say it costs like $35,000 and you're only allowed to go a limited special area near the coast.Oh but there are plenty of footage of polar day in Antarctica....
Ofc fatters will always say they are fake
Also what about "noone can go to Antarctica because of treaty" if they aknolwedge that there are "plenty of tourists in the south pole"?
If there are plenty of tourists, why not a single flat earther go there? Afterall....theres the biggest secret in the history of mankind within reach!
Within couple of minutes you can easily find travel agencies offering trip to antarctica for over a week for about 5000-6000 Euros.
Every years dozens of thousands tourists are visiting it. Some companies can take you right to the south pole.
There are people going through whole antarctica alone. There are people flying through it.
In March last year Polish small yacht sailed arround it in 72 days (They went clockwise and had antarctica in their right side all the time, which alone trumps the whole theory).
So.....5000-6000 euros for exposing the greatest hoax in the history of humanity!
Thats quote a deal. One that surely would make you a milionaire!
.Every years dozens of thousands tourists are visiting it. Some companies can take you right to the south pole.
There are people going through whole antarctica alone. There are people flying through it.
In March last year Polish small yacht sailed arround it in 72 days (They went clockwise and had antarctica in their right side all the time, which alone trumps the whole theory).
So.....5000-6000 euros for exposing the greatest hoax in the history of humanity!
Thats quote a deal. One that surely would make you a milionaire!
iconmaster
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Man, with Weilthain banned I'm not sure this thread has a future.
OT but anyone who has ever used this gif should look up the movie from which it's sourced. It's His Girl Friday and it is crazy and amazing. At one point, a woman jumps to her death and within a minute the characters are back to wisecracking because this movie ain't got time for that.
OT but anyone who has ever used this gif should look up the movie from which it's sourced. It's His Girl Friday and it is crazy and amazing. At one point, a woman jumps to her death and within a minute the characters are back to wisecracking because this movie ain't got time for that.
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synchronicity
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I think there is little doubt on either side of the debate that there was always the intention to go to the moon. The issue (on the fake side) is that it became apparent that the task was too much, given the self-imposed deadline (by the end of the decade), so to maintain pride/save face it was simulated for public consumption.
Personally, I'm uncertain. There is some compelling evidence on both sides imo.
In regards to the other debate in this thread, I always wondered why flat-earthers don't just watch a sunset and then adjust their personal elevation/vantage point after it has gone over the horizon. If you can elevate your vantage point, and then the crest of the sun reappears, I don't understand how could you maintain belief in a flat-earth. Of course there are many other ways to personally verify things, but it's not like you have to go into space in order to work things out.
iconmaster
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When I hear "flat earth" I don't take it to mean that the earth is shaped like a Blu-ray. Earlier I posted a map which represents the world as a hill in a vale. I'd still consider this a "flat" earth model, though it does have curvature and could account for certain curvature effects.
"Flat" is thus a shorthand for "non-spherical" or something of that sort. It's a term used in contradistinction to the accepted understanding.
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kingbean
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This thread really makes me think.
Not about what's being talked about. It mainly makes me think about ham.
And not the food, the man.
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Not about what's being talked about. It mainly makes me think about ham.
And not the food, the man.
Ham
Ham is a member and the leader of the Superfriends club, along with Database, Cosine, E-mail, Report Card and Lisa. He is a short, fat kid with suspenders, a bow-tie and glasses. His nickname comes from his enjoyment of ham radio. He makes the fourth most appearances out of The Superfriends (the...
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Nymphae
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Found this in my reading today, seems pretty interesting
I had never heard this about the CMB, I looked up Axis of Evil on wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org
Theories offered for explanation listed on wikipedia include
Coincidence and "people want to find weird shit"
I had never heard this about the CMB, I looked up Axis of Evil on wikipedia:
Axis of evil (cosmology) - Wikipedia
Theories offered for explanation listed on wikipedia include
Coincidence and "people want to find weird shit"
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Ornlu
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I'd say that's largely human nature; we are inherently religious creatures looking to know the unknowable. Everyone has a 'belief' of one kind or another that cannot be proven. We look for patterns, or the lack thereof where we cannot find any. Looking at a popcorn ceiling for more than a few seconds will have you or I seeing faces or figures from among the randomness.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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I Dubai there's a very tall building where you can do that in an an elevator. That said flat earthers claim the same elevation phenomena would be seen in the flat earth with a local sun.
ResilientBanana
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bilderberg
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Tell me round plebs, if the Earth is round, how come the North Pole and the South Pole aren't connected? Otherwise, wouldn't the North Pole be south if you're above it?
John Day
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I’ll indulge, but have you ever held a basketball in your hands?
MetalAlien
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Goodbye you crazy old fool. Good luck in your journey and try not to fall off the edge.That warning was a bit harsh don’t you think?
I asked for a rocket with a video camera in deep space, was misquoted to make it seem like the video was meeting what I asked for, when it wasn’t. Then evilore liked It which is strange because it was deliberately misleading.
I pointed out that it’s pathetic that footage is the best he had of deep space “camera on a rocket” earth footage, and I get a warning, this is after I’ve been called many horrible things
That wasn’t camera on a rocket being launched into deep space.
I’m getting banned guys, they simply have to because the lying doesn’t work.
I love you all
Nymphae you are the man don’t let them get you
Tesseract thanks for the laughs
❤ Love everyone else and thank you for the great times
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Flat earth =/= moon landing was faked in terms of crazy. Next thing you know we will be banned from saying the CIA invented AIDS.
Tesseract
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fucking what
Rentahamster
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MetalAlien
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Actually all you need is a drone and camera
And no....the same phenomena would not be seen in flat earth. In fact they wouldnt even see "the first sunset".
Lets use basic maths....from elementary school xD
Acording to their model, the sun is 3000 miles above the earth, which is 4828 kms.
Even if i would stand in antarctica, on the very edge with sun beeing furtherst away (~30 000 kms from observer), it would still be over 9 degrees above the horizon. Nine freaking degrees....is still quite high on the sky.
Not to mention that angular size of the sun would get about 6 times smaller compared to what you see when the sun is directly above you.
Their model has so many flaws its not even funny.
iconmaster
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Bladed Thesis
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How do you know it's not projected onto the plane properly? Do you have photographic evidence?
Nymphae
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Because I've researched and am aware of what they believe the model is, and that's not it.
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He would have like the Gleason's map I'm sure
It's good enough for the UN logo
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Bladed Thesis
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So the worldwide conspiracy is so good at hiding it, they put it as the UN logo?
synchronicity
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You know, I've always been more of an ignore than ban type of person on forums. Unless someone is just utterly hateful or spams incessantly, I see no need to ban anyone personally. I had no problem with Weilthain. He was a bit rude a times, but I just saw him as a quirky personality.
Razorback
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Let's be fair. He did say it's not pizza-shaped. That would be ridiculous.
Tesseract
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it doesn't help that you say 'don't space maths me bro' every time someone tries to explain something
then you call them a basic bitch, demand they watch your doc (aka look into it), and the cycle repeats
how long are we expected to put up with that
still love wei tho, rip you magnificent musical bastard
then you call them a basic bitch, demand they watch your doc (aka look into it), and the cycle repeats
how long are we expected to put up with that
still love wei tho, rip you magnificent musical bastard
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Halo is Back
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True I have learned that debating a flat earther is pointless. No matter what you say or what proof you give them they will just say its faked or some crap like that.
Swan Freespeak
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Declassified C.I.A. documents containing a transcript of Houston communications with Apollo have been released. As much as i don't like it U.S.A. made it to the moon. Stanley Kubrick was hired to film a moon landing in case they didn't make it. When they arrived they immediately realised they were not alone and were being watched by huge vehicles on the ridge of the crater they landed in. They were told they could gather samples from the surface and i quote, were "allowed to play in the sand" for a few hours. The reason they or any country with a space program good enough to haven't gone back is because we as a race were instructed not to. The transcripts also documented that when they landed they intentionally landed hard and a sound like a large bell being rung emanated from the surface like it was hollow. Original footage of the landing was mixed with Kubrick's footage and released knowing that they would not match and the landing would be suspicious enough to keep us talking about whether we landed there or not and not about the fact we weren't the first on the surface. Obviously having us bicker about whether we made it or not was more beneficial to the 13 elite families controlling the planet than if we were told that alien races were actually in our solar system and have been here for millions of years.
Now think about it, the original footage has a lot of repeat landscapes but claimed to be kilometers away from each other. It makes sense they had to remove all the footage that indicated others were there, probably confining the space they could film immensely but still had to release something to explain the time they spent up there . We know there is a dark side of moons. All the moons in our solar system face the planets with the same side all the time, they don't spin on an axis like planets do. A base could easily be hidden on the dark side but i don't think there is. i believe the base is inside and the thing we call our moon was constructed by an ancient race ages ago. All the other moons in our solar system account for %5 or less of the mass of the planet it orbits. Earth's "moon" is 27% of the mass of this planet. Remember the old Sesame Street song? One of these things is not like the other...... yeah using our other planets as a guide our "moon" size is very suspicious.
So yeah man made it to the moon.......last. The reason no government releases a telescope photo of the U.S.A. flag is because they were told to remove it before they left and also being a country large enough to own telescopes that could photograph it they would also understand the benefit of the people not knowing the truth.
They hid the fact they landed by making us think they didn't while telling us they did. A brilliant plan if you think about it.
Swan Freespeak
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My time to edit that post has apparently expired? so uhhhh don't wanna be the double poster guy but i forgot to address the flat earth whoop whoops.
It doesn't matter what factual evidence or straight up proof that this planet is spherical you show to these people. They have opened their minds too much and their brains have fallen out. There are several extreme jump videos from the "upper decks" of our atmosphere on youtube. We can all see the curvature of the horizon, we can physically see it and they'll still deny it exists. Like i said, their brains have fallen out.
Some people have latched onto this idea that your thoughts can create your reality and turned completely stupid. Yes, you can by the power of constant thought bring good things or bring bad things to yourself. These people don't understand the philosophical nature of this phenomenon and take the words literally. You can't say blue is orange or that a house isn't a house when the rest of the world understands they are. They have different words for them but blue is still blue and a house is still a house. You can't just believe "ohhhh this house is an elephant so it's now an elephant." and have it come true.
Planet is spherical, get a telescope, look up. See all those millions of planets and stars? What shape are every single one of them? Doesn't take a genius to figure out what shape ours is. These people are devolving.
It doesn't matter what factual evidence or straight up proof that this planet is spherical you show to these people. They have opened their minds too much and their brains have fallen out. There are several extreme jump videos from the "upper decks" of our atmosphere on youtube. We can all see the curvature of the horizon, we can physically see it and they'll still deny it exists. Like i said, their brains have fallen out.
Some people have latched onto this idea that your thoughts can create your reality and turned completely stupid. Yes, you can by the power of constant thought bring good things or bring bad things to yourself. These people don't understand the philosophical nature of this phenomenon and take the words literally. You can't say blue is orange or that a house isn't a house when the rest of the world understands they are. They have different words for them but blue is still blue and a house is still a house. You can't just believe "ohhhh this house is an elephant so it's now an elephant." and have it come true.
Planet is spherical, get a telescope, look up. See all those millions of planets and stars? What shape are every single one of them? Doesn't take a genius to figure out what shape ours is. These people are devolving.
Nymphae
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Wow why didn't anyone think of this.
Nymphae
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"Look into it "is all most people say on either side, to be fair. And no need to be such a delicate flower here Tess, we both know he didn't really attack anyone. Calling people basic bitches for believing commonly accepted knowledge is a mild joke, turn around is fair play. People are almost entirely incapable of discussing this stuff without throwing around insults, lets not pretend he's the only one calling people names in this. You just called him a bastard lol "and unpleasant or despicable person". I doubt he would have complained, and would have told you to watch and comment on his Moon doc (you should)
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Grinchy
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Those are hanging from wires. They're just a bunch of different sizes to make us think that some are further away than others and they're shaped that way to keep the secret of the flat earth to the powerful elite. I imagine they must have to change the bulbs out every now and then, and I'm not sure how they have done that for 1000+ years, but the specifics don't matter. All that matters is that you're being lied to!
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Tesseract
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just calling it like i see it, i don't ever really complain to anyone about anything and was more than willing to continue the conversation
i was among the first to laugh at the basic bitch thing, if you check the history
as for the doc, i don't really need to look into anything, i've already been down the rabbit hole and seen enough trash to not wanna sift through more to prove a negative that's been overwhelmingly debunked time again
like i told wei, cap some photos you want examined, tell us what's wrong with them, and we'll talk
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Nymphae
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Fair enough, I'm just saying I think it's silly to complain about his use of basic bitch at all, both sides of this are guilty of disrespecting the other (I recall you replying to one of his posts with the Ricky Gervais retard gif - people literally calling him retarded or crazy is fine, but basic bitch is rustling jimmies?) I think it's pretty clear that he wasn't crossing a line with the term, just maybe using it a bit too often.
MetalAlien
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VulcanRaven
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This pic is great:
Halo is Back
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This is a good thread to know who not to take seriously anymore
Nymphae
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This pic is great:
It's funny to me how many of these strawmen images there are which display a total lack of understanding of what FE proponents are even saying.
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TylersProphecy4.0
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God...I remember one flat earth theory that the sun is like 50 miles away from earth really and, get this, the moon radiates COLD. Like, the guy claimed he had gotten a digital thermometer and the parts of the ground lit by moonlight were colder than the shadowed areas, so hence, moon = cold radiation.
I just...I dont get some leaps of logic. At all.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
He was a mentally ill alcohol who insulted and belittled everyone who didn't agree with him (read: everyone except Nymphae). He can fuck right off the edge of his flat earth. I'm actually pretty stupid for poking my head in here at all, dude's literally insane.
TylersProphecy4.0
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Lol, no.
People like you make me miss wellthain. Show me where he super seriously insulted people. If anything, I at least respected that he backed up a lot of his arguments with videos by scientists a lot smarter than me, a trend that has now dried up since his banning.
Looks like wellthain got under your skin some how and you're taking it personally. Sorry? Maybe take an internet break?
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Who said super seriously? This entire thread is him insulting and belitting people under the guise of "look how goofy i am guise it's all just a joke lol but also i'm correct and you're all blind". You don't have to go to extremes to insult someone.
Feel free to take it up with the mods.
Literally what I'm saying right there. Flat earthers get under my skin because they're a cancer. Just in here to see what it was that finally pushed him out.
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