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[Kdad]

This I learned on GAF.

All marketing plans must be purely reactive to other company announcements and/or unsubstantiated leaks/bald face fakery, else it means your product is inferior.

Why even teach business strategy when it's really this simple.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Lol. It's a really easy point to grasp.
If Sony were quick to address the questions about RT within a pretty short amount of time because it was inaccurate, yet they havent addresses the AMD leaks, which is far bigger in terms of how much airtime (steam for those who understand) it is getting then that tells you something, if you're not a fanboy that is.
If you cant follow that, then there's not much I can do for you.

So you're reading in between the lines instead of taking it at face value?

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Yes that is the one also reading what you replied to others in this thread I don't care who has a power advantage but I will definitely take that bet. I think a year with the other persons avatar should do it.

Edited to add: I was vetted then Gaf went through its.... restructuring that's on Gaf not me. Secondly, I don't have a dog in this fight. I know what I have been told and what I have seen simply put laugh now cry later. I wouldn't make an avatar bet or an account bet if I weren't 100% certain of my source.

Directly at Timdog, with your sources high up in MS you should have known that several people had the box in their homes and it was completed correct? You should know about the new Fighting game they are set to reveal ,Ill wait. How about the exclusivity of several big name third party games.... right. The same reason I specifically name dropped Ghosts of Tsushima and the Same reason I blatantly stated the actual box was already in peoples homes is exactly how I know what I do. But let me guess those were really good exact guesses? Let me guess Battletoads is another really good guess right?

What happened at CES? Fantasy yet again

 

[Panajev2001a]

The two biggest gaming forums = Reset and Gaf. This topic has been the biggest thing on them since the AMD leaks.
The biggest gaming YouTube channel DF did a video on it basically saying that it indeed looks like the PS5 will be a 9.2tflop console and that the XSX will have 56cus and will be more powerful.
Type into Google PS5 news, and the 9.2tflop issue comes up.
Go onto Twitter and look at what people are saying about PS5 and it's all about the AMD leaks.
Just because soccer mum Betty down the road doesnt know about it, all the hardcore gamers who are first adopters, spend the most money, buy the most games, they well and truly know about it.

Yes, we know that tribalist console warrior posts and FUD do have their part in business... and? It does not make the “leaks” accurate just because people jump on them not it is damaging enough to change a company strategy.

Since well before the PS4 launch articles about PS4 being Sony’s last console, PS4 being unbalanced, PS4 being underpowered, SonyToo whenever people talked about MS DRM, “do not look too much into the console sales now” when PS4 sales data started pouring in, etc... then see sales data and MAU’s now .

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

 

[Evilms]

Summary

• 106 million units PS4 sold.
• 1.15 billion games.
• 5 million units PlayStation VR.
• 38.8 million PS Plus members currently.
• PS5 to be released by the end of 2020.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Summary

• 106 million units PS4 sold.
• 1.15 billion games.
• 5 million units PlayStation VR.
• 38.8 million PS Plus members currently.

There are still some people in here arguing it doesn't have any ray tracing hardware

Wait till the guy pops up denouncing it cause it doesn't say accelerated

 

[KURDISTAN YPG]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

i must admit your the most annoying poster on this thread, your fanboyism is beyond childish.

go buy bunch of xbones so you can help your microsoft boys catch up to the 106million ps4

 

[bitbydeath]

Lol. It's a really easy point to grasp.
If Sony were quick to address the questions about RT within a pretty short amount of time because it was inaccurate, yet they havent addresses the AMD leaks, which is far bigger in terms of how much airtime (steam for those who understand) it is getting then that tells you something, if you're not a fanboy that is.
If you cant follow that, then there's not much I can do for you.

They addressed it in the second Wired article months ago FYI.

 

[Evilms]

Is this real or it's another fake ?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Is this real or it's another fake ?

Totally fake.

If you lied the system down horizontally with that logo on the right being face up, the input ports would be pointing up into the sky.

 

[policestationx]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

3d Audio and Ultra hd Blue-ray say Hi

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[Shmunter]

A fucking logo, that’s it? Arrogant Sony is back, lol

 

[Imtjnotu]

A fucking logo, that’s it? Arrogant Sony is back, lol

PS4 was show spec wise in Feb. Box wasn't show till e3 of release year.

Just relax and let them do things at their pace

 

[TBiddy]

i must admit your the most annoying poster on this thread, your fanboyism is beyond childish.

go buy bunch of xbones so you can help your microsoft boys catch up to the 106million ps4

Pot, meet kettle. Jesus..

 

[gamerforever]

Ps5 will be 13.5tf and launch at £449.99 with a 1tb ssd.

I don’t see the point in releasing a poorer version at £350 as we have the ps4 pro.

Full bc day one means it wins the war before its even started. Will be the last gen with an xbox competing imo.

 

[Gudji]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

I'm thinking you might start to backtrack too in a couple of weeks.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Ps5 will be 13.5tf and launch at £449.99 with a 1tb ssd.

I don’t see the point in releasing a poorer version at £350 as we have the ps4 pro.

Full bc day one means it wins the war before its even started. Will be the last gen with an xbox competing imo.

One can dream my man. PS5 won't be higher than 11 TFLOPS ME THINKS

 

[Bogroll]

xXxBoXSexXx for those
adult ... edgy14yos.

Not the official name but yeah

 

[CyberPanda]

Ps5 will be 13.5tf and launch at £449.99 with a 1tb ssd.

I don’t see the point in releasing a poorer version at £350 as we have the ps4 pro.

Full bc day one means it wins the war before its even started. Will be the last gen with an xbox competing imo.

Can you tell me next weeks lottery numbers please?

 

[gamerforever]

One can dream my man. PS5 won't be higher than 11 TFLOPS ME THINKS

It will be very powerful. All smoke and mirrors like last time, let ms spill the beans....their strategy of 2 consoles at launch is going to leave them last and probably end the xbox for good by late 2021 imo.

 

[CuriousToe]

Messing with their regularly scheduled programming is all. I knew I was going to be banned. And the reasoning is absolute garbage haha. I knew I'd be banned, and even so refused to stop defending what I was saying and giving my view. If they know me well enough, they'd know I never get intimidated even when I know bias mods are lurking looking for any excuse to ban me.

Yes. You sure showed them by arguing that Ray Tracing might not be a thing. Despite Godfall confirmed to use it, and it featuring on a slide at CES.

Lol. Ridiculous.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

 

[CyberPanda]

Lmao

 

[demigod]

This basically sums up they got nothing and probably won't go much into the performance as it's not going to push above xbox performance.

3D audio is pointless, haptic triggers is pointless, utltra high speed ssd, so does xbox, haradware based raytracing, yea if you got a GPU u can raytrace so also means nothing, ultra hd blu-ray, guess for the 3 people that care.

You set yourself up this disappointment thinking Sony would reveal tflops, i told you they wouldn’t.

 

[TLZ]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

I don't know why this Twitter troll is allowed here.

 

[Evilms]

3 million likes in few hours

Feel the difference

 

[Barakov]

Unrelated

 

[TLZ]

3 million likes in few hours

Didn't you know it's doomed?

 

[demigod]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

You wanna quote Osiris talking about a big CES event instead of talking out from your ass? He mentioned Sony would talk about the PS5, NOTHING MORE. How’s that bet going along with you and Osiris?

I don't know why this Twitter troll is allowed here.

Agreed.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Hardware based RT. It's a lie. Really doubt it will have it. It must be hardware accelerated on GPU.

 

[onQ123]

3 million likes in few hours

Feel the difference

Well damn!

 

[captainraincoat]

I would not be surprised if sony were targeting a lower spec ps5 to have a lower entry price as Nintendo have pretty much been leading the way in showing you don't need an expensive showcase machine to wipe the floor with the competition

 

[Shmunter]

PS4 was show spec wise in Feb. Box wasn't show till e3 of release year.

Just relax and let them do things at their pace

Don’t tell me to relax, I’m relaxed. You relax.

haha, nah you’re alright.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after CES. Orisis Black said expect the goods, yet now backtracked. Im still here. I wonder if Sony even has a feb show??!???

He said Sony would talk something about PS5, not the full blowout. Yep, he was right on that.

 

[TheStruggler]

Lots of ppl said I wouldnt be talking so tough after E3's. TimDog said expect the goods, NPD's were apparently on lock. Im still here. I wonder if Microsoft even has games??!???

Fixed that for you

 

[Gudji]

Unrelated

The best combo but more expensive if you don't already own a gaming PC.

 

[Evilms]

Updated version

 

[Fulcizombie]

I won’t go into technical mumbo jumbo or the various bs specs that the fake insiders have been spewing but I will just say one thing.....everything MS has showed screams about an ultra powerful console, from the console form to the APU size. They can really go crazy with the clock speeds in that chip , like they did with Scorpio, and unveil some unbelievable specs. As for Sony we will see.

 

[demigod]

Hardly. If you have read my posts you would see I want Sony to also have 12tflops. Im not scared of Sony putting out a powerful system. I have said I also want Nintendo to do one as well.
This is called sharing opinions, which is the whole point of these forums.

Both companies are playing poker right now. MS tried to bluff Sony to show their hands at the TGA but Sony is staying cool and calm. Sony has a gameplan, they’re not revealing too much until their event in February like before. They’re not allowing MS time to react after their reveal. It worked last time.

If MS is so confident that they have the power edge, you would be hearing it from the 3 stooges already.

 

[policestationx]

I would not be surprised if sony were targeting a lower spec ps5 to have a lower entry price as Nintendo have pretty much been leading the way in showing you don't need an expensive showcase machine to wipe the floor with the competition

By releasing the console with the highest rated game of the generation like BOTW for Switch and TP for Wii.

BOTW is still at the original $60 MSRP after nearly 3 years on the market while most XB and PS exclusive are getting bundled with the console and getting price cut not even a year on the market.

Specs is really matter to Sony and Microsoft because third party games are the main selling point.

 

[demigod]

There are still some people in here arguing it doesn't have any ray tracing hardware

Wait till the guy pops up denouncing it cause it doesn't say accelerated

Hardware based RT. It's a lie. Really doubt it will have it. It must be hardware accelerated on GPU.

Pretty sure someone here tried to tell me Sony didn’t have RT cores while MS did .

 

[TheStruggler]

Both companies are playing poker right now. MS tried to bluff Sony to show their hands at the TGA but Sony is staying cool and calm. Sony has a gameplan, they’re not revealing too much until their event in February like before. They’re not allowing MS time to react after their reveal. It worked last time.

If MS is so confident that they have the power edge, you would be hearing it from the 3 stooges already.

Honestly if Sony responded to MS right away about tflops or their own console specs then i'd be worried because i'd feel they'd have something to prove and quick. The fact they didnt makes me feel they are confident with what they have. In the words of Flyod Mayweather Sony is team A, MS is the B team.

 

[Rossco EZ]

Both companies are playing poker right now. MS tried to bluff Sony to show their hands at the TGA but Sony is staying cool and calm. Sony has a gameplan, they’re not revealing too much until their event in February like before. They’re not allowing MS time to react after their reveal. It worked last time.

If MS is so confident that they have the power edge, you would be hearing it from the 3 stooges already.

exactly i completely agree, also xbox has a reason to want to build more hype for next gen as they didn’t do well in this one. playstation can just keep doing what they do and push ps4 until the feb event. lots of people mentioning power and features but at the end of the day it’s for playing games and that’s something playstation has excelled at.

 

[Fulcizombie]

Wow lots of 15 year olds in here, damn . I see lots of tears in this thread from the people that are in denial right now. It will be fun to watch.

 

[BattleScar]

Ah yes. Sony didn't detail the specifications of the PS5 in a CES conference.
Therefore it must be shit.

It's almost like people think these corporations with powerful brand identity and very intelligent corporate strategists make decisions based on the whims and wishes of a small number of angry fuckwits on an internet forum.

"Oh no, Neogaf is annoyed that we didn't tell them the floating point compute performance of our new box. This is the end of our console business"

They don't give a single shit about what any of us think about their reveal strategy. The thirst and desperation for more, is in fact evidence to suggest that their hype building strategy is pretty fucking effective.

Honestly ridiculous.

 

[policestationx]

Looking at the latest AMD 5600 xt card at $279 price point, it makes you wonder how high is the price going to be for next gen consoles with 9-12tf machines.

 

[CuriousToe]

Looking at the latest AMD 5600 xt card at $279 price point, it makes you wonder how high is the price going to be for next gen consoles with 9-12tf machines.

What are the 5600 xt specs out of curiosity?

 

[Aceofspades]

3 million likes in few hours

Feel the difference

But these are not "hardcore" enthusiasts likes /s

Dude, I see a lot of concerns trolling here , in the end PS5 will outsell whatever MS does like always

 

[DForce]

It's funny reading some of the comments on social media.

"Sony that was awful! Where are the specs?"

Reminds me of the first State of Play where so many people were upset that they didn't show TLOU, DS or GoT.


People expect Sony to unload tons of information at every single event.