Dory16
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You don't seem to worry about your PC games being dragged down by having to run on 5 year old PCs.
You shouldn't worry about your PC games being dragged down by the original xbox one.
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Matt Booty (Xbox): No next gen exclusives for the next two years
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You shouldn't worry about your PC games being dragged down by the original xbox one.
Psykodad
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Now imagine the scenario of:
Lockhart 4Tf €250-€300 (no exclusives)
XSX 12Tf €500 (no exclusives)
PS5 9Tf €400 (exclusives)
Take into consideration that a mere logo for PS5 seemingly generates more traction that the XSX console-reveal, as well as a <50M installbase for XBO vs a 100+M installbase for PS4 and that is quite a hurdle for MS.
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Gamernyc78
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And so far it has worked way better than their competitor...... Chk last financial revenues and profits oh abd the ones before tht, etc...
As others have mentioned and even some supposed devs have me tioned, aiming also for the lowest denominator console is a pain and also doesn't let that brand new powerful box you just bought live up to its full potential.
As others have mentioned and even some supposed devs have me tioned, aiming also for the lowest denominator console is a pain and also doesn't let that brand new powerful box you just bought live up to its full potential.
Fbh
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Well I guess the good part is that my laptop will continue to run their games for the next 2 years since it can definitely handle everything that has been designed to work on the OG Xbox 1
Like Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Infamous Second Son and Driveclub during the first year of the Ps4?
I definitely see them releasing some games on both. I can see some of their lower scale projects (Stuff like concrete genie, Resogun, Medievil Remake, etc) releasing on ps4 too.
But I don't see any historical or current indication that they won't have Ps5 exclusives.
I imagine early exclusives are often not meant to make a lot of money from sales but are rather seen as a sales boosting investment. Early exclusives aren't there to make tons of money, they are there to sell consoles.
Like Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Infamous Second Son and Driveclub during the first year of the Ps4?
I definitely see them releasing some games on both. I can see some of their lower scale projects (Stuff like concrete genie, Resogun, Medievil Remake, etc) releasing on ps4 too.
But I don't see any historical or current indication that they won't have Ps5 exclusives.
I imagine early exclusives are often not meant to make a lot of money from sales but are rather seen as a sales boosting investment. Early exclusives aren't there to make tons of money, they are there to sell consoles.
Early adopters won’t care ... they all ready know which console they will get ...
Dory16
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The first 2 years of a console being cross gen is nothing new. It's not even up to Microsoft if EA decides to release NBA 2k 2021 on the xbox one which has a 50 million user base. Or if Activision wants to release the next 2 CODs as cross gens. The first party titles will do the same and also have in the past. COD Ghosts ran better on the 360 than on the next gen consoles before a patch was released.
I don't see the breaking news or groundbreaking strategy here.
Nero_PR
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Vasto
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PS5 cross-generational play will ensure PS4 players won't get left behind, Sony confirms
www.gamesradar.com
PS5 cross-generational play will ensure PS4 players won't get left behind, Sony confirms
Sony confirms its working on "cross-generational play" between PS5 and PS4 players
MrRenegade
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Yeah, but what will drive console sales then, if not new exclusives?
CJY
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I can see PS5 launching with Gran Turismo 7 with massively increased trackside detail and scenery.
It's time for GT to retake the crown of being the industries' premier racing title.
Every gen of PS has had two numbered GT releases except PS4, which only has GT Sport.
Yamauchi-san has stated that the assets Polyphony created for GTS are good for up to 8K resolutions.
source
The start of next gen is the ideal to time for Sony to launch the next proper GT. If they don't, it would simply feel incompetent as far as I'm concerned.
GT7 on PS5: "The only true next-generation driving simulator"
It's time for GT to retake the crown of being the industries' premier racing title.
Every gen of PS has had two numbered GT releases except PS4, which only has GT Sport.
Yamauchi-san has stated that the assets Polyphony created for GTS are good for up to 8K resolutions.
source
The start of next gen is the ideal to time for Sony to launch the next proper GT. If they don't, it would simply feel incompetent as far as I'm concerned.
GT7 on PS5: "The only true next-generation driving simulator"
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Mista
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Then saying they don’t want to sell consoles is stupid...
MrRenegade
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They bought studios quite late... so they need time to make those Xbox Xclusives. If those games are quite ok, it could drive sales later on. The problem is about MS's company culture. We'll see. Good games are good for everyone, but Sony is miles better handling talent, than MS.
IbizaPocholo
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Xbox Series X Exclusive Games From Xbox Game Studios Will Start Coming One Year After Launch
The Xbox Series X is releasing later this year, but it seems like it will take longer to see next-gen exclusive titles from Xbox Game Studios. Speaking with MCV, Xbox Game Studios head Matt Booty confirmed that all games coming from the studios over this year and the next will be cross-gen...
ScarletSpider
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Bumblebeetuna
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Is this a big deal? I don’t remember a single launch game on my Xbone or PS4 that wouldn’t have been possible on last gen. And by far the most popular games early on last gen were cross gen titles. A fuss can be made when we see actual launch titles. If the XSX games look as good or better than PS5 games, will people really care that they aren’t exclusive?
ethomaz
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That news is about games released on PS4 that will play native on PS5 (BC) and the multiplayer pool will be the same.PS5 cross-generational play will ensure PS4 players won't get left behind, Sony confirms
PS5 cross-generational play will ensure PS4 players won't get left behind, Sony confirms
Sony confirms its working on "cross-generational play" between PS5 and PS4 players
Not new games.
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ClearMind
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Why are posting this? Damage control?
Everyone knows that Sony will release PS5 only games.
SuperLupeRap
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Yeah sure buddy.
DunDunDunpachi
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Since Microsoft is loading up on GaaS and subscription plans, it doesn't make much sense that you would restrict your biggest titles to your smallest installed base which would be the case if they made exclusive games for their newest console.
SuperLupeRap
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Remember both MS and Sony make money off of Software, not hardware. Smart business decision.
This was actually rumored a few months ago but many chose not to believe.
It's their strategy and like every strategy it has pros and cons.
The pros are that it's easier for them to push the whole ecosystem instead of a single product, the cons are that Sony's PS5 conceived exclusives like the upcoming Horizon2, Spiderman2 and GOW2 will be considerably far ahead. You can scale settings as much as you want but you can't escape from the minimum requirements you have to take care of.
It's their strategy and like every strategy it has pros and cons.
The pros are that it's easier for them to push the whole ecosystem instead of a single product, the cons are that Sony's PS5 conceived exclusives like the upcoming Horizon2, Spiderman2 and GOW2 will be considerably far ahead. You can scale settings as much as you want but you can't escape from the minimum requirements you have to take care of.
ethomaz
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I don’t think Ryse could run on 360.
Just to show a example on Xbox side.
Psykodad
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True, but early adopters also bought Xbox One.
DeltaPolarBear
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Microsoft customers, ever since Xbox One came out, have this bizzare mentality that 'whatever MS is doing, Sony is sure to follow suit!".
They said this for always online, for console without bluray readers, releasing 2 skus at once, and now, "Sony would stop making PS5 exclusives because Microsoft is doing it".
Sony is the industry leader. Leaders don't follow their third place competiter for much of anything.
CJY
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In fairness, if XSX's cross-gen games look as good as PS5 exclusive games, Sony are doing something seriously wrong.
With PS4 it was different because that consoles was developed with a strict budget in mind and concerns about the viability of the console market at-large.
The biggest jump ever for me was PS2 to PS3. Super Stardust HD, Fight Night 3, Uncharted. That's the type of generational leap I'm expecting this time 'round. No way those 3 aforementioned games could be possible on PS2 to the same effect.
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DeltaPolarBear
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Wrong. Sony make money off 30% rent of third party software. And to get decent third party games they need decent hardware numbers. And you get decent hardware numbers by pushing 1st party exclusives on the next gen machine.
Microsoft is trying to create an entirely new buisness plan that run counter to how Console owners make money. Good luck to them, i don't fancy their chances,
Vasto
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Some PlayStation 5 launch games are next-gen exclusive
A few first-party PlayStation 5 launch games won't be held back by PS4 hardware
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69134/playstation-5-launch-games-next-gen-exclusive/index.html
www.tweaktown.com
A few first-party PlayStation 5 launch games won't be held back by PS4 hardware
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69134/playstation-5-launch-games-next-gen-exclusive/index.html
Some PlayStation 5 launch games are next-gen exclusive
A few first-party PlayStation 5 launch games won't be held back by PS4 hardware.
www.tweaktown.com
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They are going to try and sell it at profit I'd assume and offer promotions and phone-like subscriptions.
AlexxKidd
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Nothing new? Sony does not operate like this. They didn't release Knack or Killzone Shadow Fall on PS3, they didn't release Resistance: Fall of Man, Genji: Days of the Blade or Untold Legends Dark Kingdom on PS2, etc. And those are just the launch titles.
stitch1
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People asking why would anyone upgrade if you can get the same games.... Um the same reason anyone bought the X or Pro versions or anyone that has upgraded their GPU in their PC.... Better performance. The benefit of them offering the same games to both generations is so you don't HAVE to buy a new console at launch. Also, not everyone is buying day one. There's not going to be 100+ million PS4 owners buying a PS5 day one. Theres not enough to go around. You are kidding yourself if you think this is a bad thing.
Psykodad
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True, not denying that.
But it's quite a gamble for your next-gen system.
Why buy a XSX if you can buy the very same game on your Xbox One, whereas PS5 has "true" next-gen games?
If this line of thinking will be picked up by the average consumer, they'll be giving Sony basically a head start.
Unless they want to rely on GamePass and xCloud.
SuperLupeRap
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I don't think you understand what they mean by no next-gen exclusives. They don't mean Halo Infinite won't come out on XSEX. It means it will also be available for One X.
If you are just acting dumb, then maybe take it slow because if TLOU2 and GoT end up being cross gen you'll look even dumber.
Slings and Arrows
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Excellent. My strategy has paid off:
Buy an X in 2019, to play current gen console games in the best graphics
Buy a PS5 in 2020 to catch-up on Sony exclusives and have multi-plats look next gen
2021 buy an XSX to play the now next-gen only games.
Buy an X in 2019, to play current gen console games in the best graphics
Buy a PS5 in 2020 to catch-up on Sony exclusives and have multi-plats look next gen
2021 buy an XSX to play the now next-gen only games.
DeltaPolarBear
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Microsoft will have to hope most people remember to do Step 3. Because there is a real danger that most get to step 2 and stopped there.
Psykodad
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I know what they mean. How can I not know what they mean?
Read my post again.
Edit:the other post of yours that I quoted
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SuperLupeRap
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But how do you explain games like RDR2 on PC looking better than anything on consoles? Because Rockstar still had to cater to the lowest and weakest PC's out there. They also couldn't "escape minimum requirements"
Your logic makes no sense.
I'm nobody
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Gave PlayStation the crown before released well done
DunDunDunpachi
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To add to this from a gamer's perspective instead of the business perspective, I only own 8 first party Sony games for my PS4, out of about 100 games in total (most of them physical discs).
I acknowledge that people love Sony's first party offerings but that's not why I'm a customer. I'm a customer because Sony has the track record of making a mass-market console that will scoop up a high number of de facto exclusives. That is the end result I'm after, and so far Microsoft's business model has not achieved the same results.
SuperLupeRap
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I stopped reading at "Wrong".
What next? The Earth isn't round? Spin it like you want. They make money off of SW not HW.
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Mista
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How the fuck am I being dense when someone says they don’t want to sell consoles as a fact and I am the one being dense? Whatever. Have a good day
ethomaz
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I should have lived different generations lol
Every new generation I give up on old consoles to play exclusives at launch.... that is how it worked in all generations even with Xbox One.
Forza 5 - exclusive
Ryse - exclusive
Killzone - exclusive
Knack - exclusive
inFamous - exclusive
DriveClub - exclusive
There is a lot more I forgot.
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Slings and Arrows
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Most will forget. Considering you can get all Microsoft exclusives for both gens, for free, in playable 1080p on the X, you can use the PS5 for Sony exclusives and multiplats.
Not really sure what Microsofts strategy is here, especially if they do release the most powerful next gen console. Like, what's the point? They may as well have released a weaker console that retails for £300 and cut the legs off of Sony
Derktron
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They’re a software company after all.
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