gaming_noob
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Doubtful. Next gen DF videos will be about load time comparisons. Can you imagine side by side Destiny 3 - PS5 load to map takes 0.2 seconds while XSX takes 15 seconds? That’s a deal breaker for me and I won’t touch an XSX.
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Doubtful. Next gen DF videos will be about load time comparisons. Can you imagine side by side Destiny 3 - PS5 load to map takes 0.2 seconds while XSX takes 15 seconds? That’s a deal breaker for me and I won’t touch an XSX.
TherapistGaymer
Banned
Aka Big Navi 21
saintjules
Member
The TF talk has calmed down quite a bit. The recent talks have been how Sony isn't appearing at E3 2020 and how the big month for Sony is next month with the reveal and other info they want to share.
PlayStation will not participate in E3 2020
PlayStation will miss E3 for a second year in a row.The firm told GamesIndustry.biz that it does not feel the vision fo…
www.gamesindustry.biz
You can also follow gamesindustry Twitter account as they spammed most of the info that happened over the last couple of days.
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ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
I almost feel like Sony intentionally wanted Microsoft to know about the high speed SSD last year so they would have time to adjust their console accordingly, just imagine how cripples 3rd party games would have been this next gen if the PS5 had an ultra fast SSD while the XBSX had a mechanical or SATA3 SSD drive, 3rd party titles would have suffered severely because most of them would design the game based on the slowest console. Having high speed SSD drives in both consoles (even if one is a little faster) is a win for everyone, especially us gamers.
If MS upped the speed to 7 GBPS we are looking at 3 seconds for PS5 , no loading for series X, you buy ?
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Deleted member 775630
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What are the chances that the differences will be that big though? Would mean the PS5 is 75x as fast as the XSX with their SSD.
I think these consoles are going to be neck-to-neck on every aspect
Agnostic2020
Member
BTW david Jaffe already semi confirmed it by saying "its the worst kept gaming secret " so he knows and not guessing.
guys buckle up cause its going down
guys buckle up cause its going down
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Chromata
Member
TherapistGaymer
Banned
Oh shoot me already
Rumor - Sony Hands Destination PlayStation 2020 Over To 'Major Distributor' - PlayStation Universe
Sony’s Destination PlayStation event looks set to change hands, as it’s been rumoured control has been handed over to a major retailer.www.psu.com
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Anyone hear this shit
Disco_
Member
7gbps is max theoretical speed in the top tier controller phison makes. That article did nothing but make people think it's going into consoles.
Isn't this a pastebin/reddit leak from a year ago?Anyone hear this shit
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
good to know thanks for the update. Gonna hit the DayQuil hard again today so Ill likely black out net few days as well. its people like you that make it possible.The TF talk has calmed down quite a bit. The recent talks have been how Sony isn't appearing at E3 2020 and how the big month for Sony is next month with the reveal and other info they want to share.
PlayStation will not participate in E3 2020
PlayStation will miss E3 for a second year in a row.The firm told GamesIndustry.biz that it does not feel the vision fo…
You can also follow gamesindustry Twitter account as they spammed most of the info that happened over the last couple of days.
Imtjnotu
Member
got the notification on my google news for this earlier. dont know how i feel about itAnyone hear this shit
Shmunter
Member
Hmm think about it, 12th Feb, 12teraflops. it’s all adding up now
Imtjnotu
Member
these were from someone who (or close friend) actually was at one of the first ps5 meetings/events. he gaves specs close to these and at the time sony had said in the meeting it was 13tf
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
There is NO WAY we are going to see 7GB/s drives in the next gen consoles (at least at launch), people really need to get that out of their head! The fastest PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives out right now top out at around 5GB/s, which I am hoping we see that in the console, but I am not crossing my fingers. I personally expect to see 3GB/s models in the consoles...anything higher in that is just bonus, but that is the minimum I hope we see.
David Ricardo
Member
If it’s the 5th, invites were just sent yesterday
Imtjnotu
Member
or if they wait till the feb 28th we get 28TF
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Wait, this year is a leap year, so February has 29 days! 29TF Confirmed!
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Sweet spot is 1.7 ghz for a 40 CU navi. its around 110w for the gpu alone.
AMD should be able to improve efficiency in a year. just how much is anyones guess. but 10% should be the bare minimum we can expect. add another 7% for n7p and we are looking at 2.0 ghz being the sweet spot for a 40 cu gpu. If you can get a 40 CU gpu at 2.0 ghz for a 110w then 36 cu should be around 100. with hbm and a cut down gpu, we are looking at a 150-160w console which shouldnt require any special vapor chamber cooling. this could be their $399 console.
i dont believe for a second that they are going with a $399 console to save on $50 for a bigger chip and vapor chamber cooling. i think they will go wide and slow like MS. i firmly believe both are using the same chip. the clock differences will come from cut down CPUs, HBM and better cooling solutions.
AMD should be able to improve efficiency in a year. just how much is anyones guess. but 10% should be the bare minimum we can expect. add another 7% for n7p and we are looking at 2.0 ghz being the sweet spot for a 40 cu gpu. If you can get a 40 CU gpu at 2.0 ghz for a 110w then 36 cu should be around 100. with hbm and a cut down gpu, we are looking at a 150-160w console which shouldnt require any special vapor chamber cooling. this could be their $399 console.
i dont believe for a second that they are going with a $399 console to save on $50 for a bigger chip and vapor chamber cooling. i think they will go wide and slow like MS. i firmly believe both are using the same chip. the clock differences will come from cut down CPUs, HBM and better cooling solutions.
TherapistGaymer
Banned
He didn't, last part is me saying before Big Navi were ready. Look, more than likely both MS and PS5 are using it if it didn't release last year like it was supposed too with ray tracing. That card is the one to do so not the 5700. I get the customizations and all but I "speculate" from researching that MS came to the party later in final design and finished earlier due to Big Navi being ready (rdna 2) and Sony starting earlier using Navi 10 in dev kits in 2019 - Hence why we have pics of Sony devkits. This is a speculation thread but I truly believe they will both use Rdna 2 (Big Navi) with ray tracing. Can't wait to see if I'm right.
Agnostic2020
Member
Old leak. Never mind
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ethomaz
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Shmunter
Member
I’m not going to deny it. Has merit
Gamernyc78
Banned
This dominating the conversation bs is so annoying and dumb. Whoever drops the info dominates the conversation at tht point and tht can happen at any point in time so wtf does it matter? Not to mention ppl talking about dominating yet Sony drops a logo and gets 5,000,000 plus likes in a day
This isn't some one sided positive momentum for one console like ppl try to paint based off their frivolous narratives. If anything Sony fans are frothing at the mouth for info lol every second of every day.
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gamechanger87
Member
Anyone hear this shit
Regurgitation of a "leak" from a year ago. I believe this was discredited a bit which is why its ignored now.
Also, 24 GB of RAM is overkill. The RAM will be lined up with the max bandwidth required to feed the GPU. You can have a 16/4 but 24 won't make sense.
TherapistGaymer
Banned
Although I dont agree with all I am so glad someone speculates that they are ultimately using the same generation of chip. The ray tracing is a giveaway for me. Only one AMD chip is starting that capability.
gamechanger87
Member
This isn't a new leak. This is from last April.
Gamernyc78
Banned
"it may not be as powerful as some think" talk about capping lol the description of what might be doesn't even go hand in hand with tht comment
ppl would be in heaven if those are the specs.
joe_zazen
Member
it depends how long pre 2018 PCs and x1 ps4 are going to be supported. Still a lot of hdd game buyers out there.
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Gamernyc78
Banned
Yeah thts old
Agnostic2020
Member
it says 4 hours ago?:
Imtjnotu
Member
if both machines are over 12tf next gen would not be crippled in anyway. pc and console visuals should be really on part with eachother for atleast 2 years"it may not be as powerful as some think" talk about capping lol the description of what might be doesn't even go hand in hand with tht comment
David Ricardo
Member
TherapistGaymer
Banned
Hell I'm only frothing because of the stupid Github and DF mess to be truly over. I dont give a damn. I could buy both consoles. I work and will make enough to do so but God do I also know what you mean. I do have my own speculations as this is what this thread is for but it does get old when it's based off of personal feelings about fear of domination. Its psychological as hell - they really are scared. I need the specs to drop soon so I can see some mature responses.This dominating the conversation bs is so annoying and dumb. Whoever drops the info dominates the conversation at tht point and tht can happen at any point in time so wtf does it matter? Not to mention ppl talking about dominating yet Sony drops a logo and gets 5,000,000 plus likes in a day
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
I was hoping that they would also include a cheap high capacity mechanical drive in these consoles as well just so we can 'soft uninstall' any games we aren't currently playing which stores the game data on the mechanical drive when not installed so we don't have to re-download and re-install a game if we are wanting to play it later on...but I know that won't happen due to cost, but hopefully they will enable something like that for people with external drives.
Imtjnotu
Member
Bro that's David Jaffe creator of God of WarRandom twitter trying to be a insider to get attention
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
It's not really impossible: 5GB/s drives are using either 2x or 3x PCIe 4.0 lanes (but since lane pairings are usually x1, x2, x4 and x8, that's either 3x x1 or 2x x2, and the former would technically treat the drive as 3 different devices which is, uh...which wouldn't be good for a singular drive. Conflicts and all that). But, those are also very large capacity drives, probably loaded with a lot of enhanced features (large DRAM cache for example), and being sold for high profit margins to consumers.
At bulk, getting a memory controller capable of 7GB/8GB /s speeds isn't really too expensive for either Sony or Microsoft, and the APUs will certainly support more than 4 PCIe 4.0 lanes. Plus by the time these systems come out SSDs with 6GB/s-8GB/s speeds will start becoming a bit more normal, even if they're at the premium end for consumer drives.
This is one area Sony and Microsoft would be able to reasonably future-proof in, and relatively easy to implement in the APU compared to some other features.
Agnostic2020
Member
oh great .thanks. i edited it out
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Investor9872
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I, too, collect all the Dolby Vision UHDs. I don't use the digital codes, though, so I have had them up for sale over on the Blu-ray forum. PM me for a link if you're interested. Cheers, mate!
demigod
Member
He pushes this narrative every day, I wish he was permabanned from this thread instead of just that 1 week ban he got. He doesn't even believe in his own lies.
I'll do a lifetime GAF ban bet with you R600 that its not 8TF-9.2TF.
devilNprada
Member
Henry Clark was legit..
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
I totally believe the controllers inside the system will be capable of those speeds, but for sake of keeping within budget I don't feel like we are going to get a drive that fast, at least not at launch. My other curiousity is though, with these high speed SSD drives, most of them have heatsinks on them, so if they end up making those user replaceable (which I hope to hell they do) I wonder how they are going to accomodate all the different size heat sinks out there.
BattleScar
Member
T3 is absolute trash. Don't believe a single thing they say unless it's literally reporting on an official announcement.
And don't believe whatever some random asshole on twitter is saying.
And don't believe whatever some random asshole on twitter is saying.
Disco_
Member
For desktop navi/5700/xt, sure.
nowhat
Member
Yeah, but in the US people use that retarded middle-endian notation for dates - 2.12TF confirmed.
saintjules
Member
Get well soon is all I can say to that!
Gamernyc78
Banned
Lol word ppl act like one way or the other they'll lose their lives if their console of choice isn't what thy want it to be. It's crazy lol
joe_zazen
Member
when the wiiu specs were confirmed, gaf had to bring in grief councillors and therapy dogs.
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