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[Afro Republican]

(due to rarity of genre will include GT6. Traditional sims only)

So with Forza 8 being made for scarlet and down-ported for Xbox One, that wouldn't really count so as of now, I can safely conclude we are at the end of the generation for racing simulators with no new significant new releases in site.

So I thought it would be a great time to determine which franchise has the best generation overall. Let's see which racing franchise/IP is the best this generation!! 2013-2020

Vote in the poll above and list your thoughts and reasons in a post below for why you selected your choice!!!!

RELEASES:


FORZA MOTORSPORT

GRAN TURISMO

PROJECT CARS

Which franchise do you believe has been the best this generation? (2013-2020)

If there's another sim released that you think deserves it vote other and mention it in a post below! (If enough people vote for a 4th I'll add it to the op and give it it's own slot in the poll, but there aren't really many sims out there, at least not traditional sims.)

 

[Mista]

Forza and nothing comes close. It aced everything during the past GT disappointments

Now GTS is awesome but still I pick Forza. Used to be a GT head for years

 

[Birdo]

Despite Forza pumping out three games this gen, they felt like they were just incremental updates.

However, GT released one game and constantly updated it with free content. So my vote goes to GTS.

 

[hunthunt]

Gran Turismo Sport December 2019 is far and away the best racer ever released on consoles.

 

[ethomaz]

Gran Turismo Sport successed evolving the racing sim genre on consoles.
It basically set the bar to what racing sim games should be forward.
Other franchises have a lot to catch now to the next-generation.

It is at the same time the best console racing sim game and best Gran Turismo ever created.

GTS is my vote.

 

[Afro Republican]

Gran Turismo Sport successed evolving the racing sim genre on consoles.
It basically set the bar to what racing sim games should be forward.
Other franchises have a lot to catch now to the next-generation.

It is at the same time the best console racing sim game and best Gran Turismo ever created.

GTS is my vote.

Notice he doesn't explain how it evolved anything.

 

[Mista]

OP, apparently you forgot to mention “Forza Killer” the game that’s called DriveClub

 

[Can't decide]

I wish console players could have received mods for Assetto Corsa, that would have been a very easy win here and not just because of a track and car list bigger than those 3 other games put together. It's really bare bones without mods and probably why it isn't mentioned in the OP.

 

[SlimySnake]

GT Sports looks the best. plays the best. And while the single player was disappointing, the online has revolutionized online racing in consoles. I used to watch SuperGT's hilarious forza races with massive pileups on the first turn, suicidal backmarkers ruining races, awful sportsmanship from people in the lead, and then i played gt sports and it was an eye opening experience. i felt like i was in a race with real human beings. real racers. not cunts. i actually had people slow down to let me go ahead.

i myself turned into a better racer. i didnt always race to win. i just wanted to race clean and race hard. i would get 6th place and feel like i won the race. its a tremendous achievement from PD and one of the many ways Sony has changed gaming for the better this gen.

 

[sn0man]

Forza and nothing comes close.

I have to agree. A GT Prologue-esq GTS didn’t scratch that single player itch. That said Forza 5 was light on content and Forza 7 started as a loot box mess so really only Forza 6 felt like a decent sequel to Forza 4.

the saving grace on GT side might be 6 though. A hell of a good game that was harmed by being released exclusively on last gen. I’m still scratching my head as to why Sony didn’t make a GT6 XL for PS4 with 1080p MSAA or other similar image quality update and just polish the already existing weather effects or whatever.

disclaimer: if you like online-required games then I suppose GTS was good for you.

shout out to WRC8 and it’s prequels. It started poorly but they’ve gotten better each release and WRC8 looks pretty nice.

 

[Afro Republican]

OP, apparently you forgot to mention “Forza Killer” the game that’s called DriveClub

You mean the game that isn't a sim lol?

 

[CeeJay]

OP, apparently you forgot to mention “Forza Killer” the game that’s called DriveClub

Because that's an arcade racer...

My vote goes to Forza as they have improved over the course of the gen to what is now the most comprehensive single and multiplayer racing experience on console with a huge selection of really varied cars and a good selection of real world and made up tracks.

Edit: own up, who voted for Project Cars?

 

[ethomaz]

Notice he doesn't explain how it evolved anything.

Explain what? If you played you should not even making this question lol

But let's explain what Gran Turismo Sport changes for better the racing simulation games on consoles.

- Single-played evolved where you finally learn how to race with a progressive series of missions that teach you each trick to get better and better as racer.... it makes the previous boring without any accomplishment Sunday Cups a think of the past and set the bar for more gamers learn how to become real racers. You feel you are really getting better at each mission ending with the circuit experience where you have the real prove to test all your new skills.
- Racing sim on consoles finally evolved to eSport. Sport mode is probably the best mode ever created in a racing sim game.... it works, it is fair... it makes you want to challenge and be challenged without having to deal with dumb players. It helps you to reach new heights in real life racing making the bridge between game and real life even closer. You have support from all fronts to reach your dreams.

It changed the base of the genre on consoles... something that only iRacing did on PC.
Perhaps the only racing sim you can really compared with Gran Turismo Sport is iRacing.
Everything else are stuck in the past yet and needs to evolve to be competitive again.

Gran Turismo Sport revolutioned the genre on consoles now it is time to others franchises shake up.

After play GTS you will be annoyed to play others racing sim on console... give it a try.

 

[Vasto]

Forza is the undisputed King Of Racing

 

[Mista]

You mean the game that isn't a sim lol?

Ah yes yes mixed things up. My bad

 

[Lionel Richie]

Forza and it's not even close.

 

[ethomaz]

Ohhhh I forget to say something else.

Do you already watched a championship Gran Turismo Sport race? It is unbelievable good to watch.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

EDIT: Oh, snap we talking sims.... Whoops...

 

[ethomaz]

This for me makes all the difference. Making my childhood dreams come true.

That is not racing sim btw just like DriveClub there is no option in the poll.

 

[LostDonkey]

Assetto Corsa by a country mile.

Its such a shame the console version didnt get the mod support from the community because the game is something else.

 

[TBiddy]

Forza. No doubt about it.

 

[Tiamat2san]

If someone vote for gran-turismo, he is only a PlayStation gamer.

 

[Afro Republican]

Racing sim on consoles finally evolved to eSport.

You mean the thing that already existed before GTS?

I've played GTS there is no evolution in the game. GT fans are still pissed this was the GT7 of the generation. It's more like GT finally catching up with several other racing games.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Oh my god, this guy again with his polls.

 

[ethomaz]

You mean the thing that already existed before GTS?

I've played GTS there is no evolution in the game. GT fans are still pissed this was the GT7 of the generation. It's more like GT finally catching up with several other racing games.

Sorry but you have no ideia what are you talking about if you believe what GTS did existed in consoles before.

Have a nice read:

With Gran Turismo, racing esports has come of age

What an exquisitely busy weekend of racing it's just been. The impossible spectacle of Macau's street races, the interm…

www.eurogamer.net

Gran Turismo Sport Elevates Driving Games To A Whole New Level

Boasting technology years ahead of anything in Hollywood, GT Sport is like the Tardis in Dr Who. It’s a time machine.

www.forbes.com

 

[Afro Republican]

Sorry but you have no ideia what are you talking about if you believe what GTS did existed in consoles before.

Yes, racing games were in Esports before GTS.

This isn't that hard to comprehend.

 

[ethomaz]

Yes, racing games were in Esports before GTS.

This isn't that hard to comprehend.

Yes it is because it was not like GTS at all.
There is nothing in console space like GTS even today.

iRacing on PC is the most close to what GTS do with eSport.

It clear shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.

 

[JLB]

forza, and its not even close, as already mentioned.

 

[Team Andromeda]

None I think Codemasters F1 2019 is the best racing sim of this gen

 

[Afro Republican]

Yes it is because it was not like GTS at all.
There is nothing in console space like GTS even today.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, but even GT6 was in Esports before GTS. Do you know what Esports means?

 

[ethomaz]

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, but even GT6 was in Esports before GTS. Do you know what Esports means?

GT6 tried eSport just like Forza 7.
It is not what GTS do with eSport at all.

Play the Sport Mode in GTS and come back to acknowledge the evolution.

Of if you don't have a PS4 play iRacing... both are the only options on the market that do eSport in evolved way.

 

[Afro Republican]

GT6 tried eSport just like Forza 7.
It is not what GTS do with eSport at all.

GTS doesn't do anything. The current scene tourney seen has been dying since 2018, where 2019 had a drop in views, players, and coverage. It's not the game fans wanted.

There is no evolution, you still haven't explained what it evolved.

 

[BigLee74]

Pointless poll, to be honest. PS players will vote GTS, Xbox players will vote Forza, nobody will vote Project Cars A few honest folk might have two or more, and genuinely vote for their favourite, but few and far between.

P. S. Forza

 

[ethomaz]

GTS doesn't do anything. The current scene tourney seen has been dying since 2018, where 2019 had a drop in views, players, and coverage. It's not the game fans wanted.

There is no evolution, you still haven't explained what it evolved.

What planet do you live? lol

The eSport scheme changed with Gran Turismo Sport (and iRacing).
What was a mess in previous games become something else and exciting in these two games mainly due the actual similar rating system used in both games that transforme the ridiculous online races found in Forza and previous GT games in something that everybody can enjoy not just to play but watch.

Gran Turismo Sport and iRacing evolved the Racing eSport and how people (not only gamers) see it something that even Turn 10 already said is looking to see what they can do in Forza 8 because today it is not how eSport is handled anymore and that shows in how low views, players and coverage you have in funded Forza tournaments (Turn 10 knows that too... it is a issue for them).

With that revolution in eSport racing and tournament become fair and competitive.
More exposure happened and increased to barely nothing to over 3 million telespectadors in actual tournaments of GTS and the number is increasing.
It is not about gamers trying a race career via games... it is more because now real life racing spectator are watching the gaming races across the world.
Now GTS transmission have even popular narrators for each country.
It is feels more and more like real races but it is online races in a game.
The final of FIA Championship in November had over 6 million watchers.

Like I said before try to read a bit more of what Gran Turismo Sports does to eSport before say nonsense again:

With Gran Turismo, racing esports has come of age

What an exquisitely busy weekend of racing it's just been. The impossible spectacle of Macau's street races, the interm…

www.eurogamer.net

Gran Turismo Sport Elevates Driving Games To A Whole New Level

Boasting technology years ahead of anything in Hollywood, GT Sport is like the Tardis in Dr Who. It’s a time machine.

www.forbes.com

How Sony's Massive Gran Turismo Championship Finally Sold Me on Esports

Blurring the lines between real and fake, in the best way possible

www.tomsguide.com

 

[ethomaz]

Pointless poll, to be honest. PS players will vote GTS, Xbox players will vote Forza, nobody will vote Project Cars A few honest folk might have two or more, and genuinely vote for their favourite, but few and far between.

P. S. Forza

So GAF is a xbox site confirmed after all

 

[Vlightray]

Gran Turismo 7 better have a decent single player and be completely and utterly able to be offline. So until then Forza has been my go to.

 

[hunthunt]

H

GTS doesn't do anything. The current scene tourney seen has been dying since 2018, where 2019 had a drop in views, players, and coverage. It's not the game fans wanted.

There is no evolution, you still haven't explained what it evolved.

Stats | Gran Turismo Sport | kudosprime.com

www.kudosprime.com

100k players weekly and a very strong FIA endorsed scene doesnt seem like a dying 2 years old racer at all.

 

[Arkam]

For a SIM racer its Project Cars by a 1/4 mile. Love me some forza but not exactly a sim... which is why people like playing it.

 

[Afro Republican]

What planet do you live? lol

The eSport scheme changed with Gran Turismo Sport (and iRacing).
What was a mess in previous games become something else and exciting in these two games mainly due the actual similar rating system used in both games that transforme the ridiculous online races found in Forza and previous GT games in something that everybody can enjoy not just to play but watch.

Gran Turismo Sport and iRacing evolved the Racing eSport and how people (not only gamers) see it something that even Turn 10 already said is looking to see what they can do in Forza 8 because today it is not how eSport is handled anymore and that shows in how low views, players and coverage you have in funded Forza tournaments (Turn 10 knows that too... it is a issue for them).

With that revolution in eSport racing and tournament become fair and competitive.
More exposure happened and increased to barely nothing to over 3 million telespectadors in actual tournaments of GTS and the number is increasing.
It is not about gamers trying a race career via games... it is more because now real life racing spectator are watching the gaming races across the world.
Now GTS transmission have even popular narrators for each country.
It is feels more and more like real races but it is online races in a game.
The final of FIA Championship in November had over 6 million watchers.

Esport scheme?

You aren't saying anything and have yet to tell us what evolution you're talking about.

You first said racing Esports was not a thing when it was now you are talking about things changing without saying what changed.

The final of FIA Championship in November had over 6 million watchers.

Your 6 million views is from June-November, not just the finals, unless you're not talking about GTS and talking about regular FIa. If you're talking about GTS it wasn't in one time period.

You are pushing GT way too hard, the events of 2019 didn't have anywhere near the exposure to 2018. I expect this to be the weakest year of GTS with a new GT announced at the PS5 reveal which is happening in less than 4 weeks.

 

[EverydayBeast]

GT I mean, much more polished, strong cast of cars, the way the tracks look etc. at some point they have to address their release schedule because we've never seen anything like GRAN TURISMO.

 

[Afro Republican]

H

Stats | Gran Turismo Sport | kudosprime.com

www.kudosprime.com

100k players weekly and a very strong FIA endorsed scene doesnt seem like a dying 2 years old racer at all.

Your chart literally shows a huge drop off until end of the year 2018 in September with the last segment until now moving up and down between 79-95k with the 100k last month being an outlier, and the last time we saw 100k was back at the end of the year 2018. Basically proving my point.

This year will be even worse.

 

[Lionel Richie]

So GAF is a xbox site confirmed after all

Honestly the only reason Gran Turismo even has that many votes against Forza it's because it's a Playstation exclusive, this one is a VERY wide gap and has been for quite some time.

 

[ethomaz]

Honestly the only reason Gran Turismo even has that many votes against Forza it's because it's a Playstation exclusive, this one is a VERY wide gap and has been for quite some time.

Nope the game quality talks for itself... it is really driving the genre forward.

Now GAF being a Xbox site it was already know for times... Xbox users are more vocal here than PS users... you can see that in the rumor threads.

 

[Darlingcognito]

It's Forza and it's not close.

 

[ethomaz]

Esport scheme?

You aren't saying anything and have yet to tell us what evolution you're talking about.

You first said racing Esports was not a thing when it was now you are talking about things changing without saying what changed.



Your 6 million views is from June-November, not just the finals, unless you're not talking about GTS and talking about regular FIa. If you're talking about GTS it wasn't in one time period.

You are pushing GT way too hard, the events of 2019 didn't have anywhere near the exposure to 2018. I expect this to be the weakest year of GTS with a new GT announced at the PS5 reveal which is happening in less than 4 weeks.

Neither God can help you

You don't want to accept the truth.... so think what you think.
And GTS watchers for finals is only about the finals not the season.
2018 it was ovre 3 million.
2019 it was over 6 million.

That was the 2019 finals if you want to watch:




It is increasing.

GTS Sport mode is at least one gen ahead others consoles online modes and like I said even Turn 10 acknowledged that.

BTW did you read the articles?

 

[Spukc]

forza wins again.
main reason i got my x

nothing beats that game.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Nope the game quality talks for itself... it is really driving the genre forward.

Now GAF being a Xbox site it was already know for times... Xbox users are more vocal here than PS users... you can see that in the rumor threads.

Yeah no my man, it's pretty much a consensus that Forza is right now a significantly better and more relevant series than Gran Turismo. The difference in voting isn't bigger because of GT's story and Playstation exclusivity.

 

[ethomaz]

Yeah no my man, it's pretty much a consensus that Forza is right now a significantly better and more relevant series than Gran Turismo. The difference in voting isn't bigger because of GT's story and Playstation exclusivity.

I strong disagree... GTS is pretty much the only relevant racing sim on consoles right now.
Same for iRacing on PC.

Numbers of players, online community, spectators viewers, Championship entries, etc are all way bigger on GTS than Forza 7.

 

[hariseldon]

Mario Kart.

 

[JLB]

I strong disagree... GTS is pretty much the only relevant racing sim on consoles right now.
Same for iRacing on PC.

Numbers of players, online community, spectators viewers, Championship entries, etc are all way bigger on GTS than Forza 7.

You are the Voost Kain of GTS lol