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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Audiophile

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I can't imagine Sony would go any later than GDC which is March 16.

Everything points to February. If they go past GDC it will be truly bonkers WTF is Sony thinking territory.

I agree, Sony intended to get ahead of leaks with the Wired article/s as dev kits were going out.

It would only be logical for them to do the same in regards to the reveal and GDC.

If too much leaks it can really take the sting out of announcements.
 

joe_zazen

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Moses85

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That would also explain why it's only 4TF in power. I always found that part weird, why would Microsoft create a weaker console than the OneX... There was no room between the OneS and OneX if you already have the XSX above. If it's more like a Nintendo Switch, more hybrid for on the road, it would make sense

So Phillyboy went to Japan to acquire Nintendo?

Finally 😂
 

ANIMAL1975

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Wanted to believe for the longest while that the type of solution you're talking about (3D-Xpoint PCM, ReRAM etc.) was possible, but I had the unfortunate fate of doing some hardcore research and I just don't know if they're going to happen.

I tried factoring out 3D-Xpoint (DRAM type)'s price per GB and figure it could get to about $1.50 with the bulk a company like Sony or MS could secure them. Even then, 64GB would be $96, and 128GB would be $192. And they'd still have to arrange it in a way to saturate the bus; IIRC a 128 GB module of Optane DC Persistent Memory gives about a bit over 8 GB/s of read performance and a bit less on write performance.

But at least 3D-Xpoint actually exists in mass scale with consumer and data market products; ReRAM's even worst, there hasn't been a single chip produced larger than a few MBs in size, for commercial production. So I think the timetable of seeing it employed in, say, PS5 at any significant capacity has passed. Maybe PS5 Pro (and/or XSX X), but not base PS5. They could probably spin 3D-Xpoint production into ReRAM production (they're both fundamentally the same technology at the root, but with some key differences in how stuff like writes are handled), but I personally wouldn't know if that's happened at all.

That's why when we've been talking about the SSDs in these systems, I've been picturing them like AMD's SSG line; 3D NAND custom-soldered to the PCB directly (or if they want to make them replaceable, on a daughtercard in a cartridge container connecting to a card edge interfaced through PCIe 4.0), given wide bandwidth and fast speed access to the CPU and GPU, and able to be memory-mapped. Probably 1TB in size, between 8 and 16 3D NAND chips in parallel (3Gbps I/O for 384 MB/s, x8 for ~ 3 GB/s, x16 for ~ 6 GB/s), that way they could go with either 1Tbit (128GB) or 512Gbit (64GB) 3D TLC NAND chips. And if they wanted, still connect more banks of NAND via serial connection to the main chips for more storage capacity (bandwidth and speed would stay the same though).

Sony and MS would want to keep that connection and the drive proprietary though, so they could have a second M.2 slot on the systems for user-optional secondary drives that act more like traditional SSDs. In fact I think the "odd" thin slot on the back of that leaked XSX picture might be an M.2 card slot.
I know mate, I've red every single post you've shared on the subject since the beginning of the talk with ReRam, here in the thread. I still have some hope 😅... but i believe that, in the end (even if it doesn't happen), we're still getting a great overall jump with this new machines _ regarding CPU, GPU, SSD, RAM _ and everything else will be quickly forgotten! 👍

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Ellery

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Free time is precious atm on page 670 atm, have I missed any major news between then and current page?

One dude leaked the Xbox Series X console randomly on twitter.

Lots of guessing and throwing around random numbers based on feelings.

People hoping that Sony starts talking in the near future.

So nah nothing much
 

saintjules

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Thank you, at the end of the web there is a new gameplay gif with better graphics than what has been seen so far.
Yeah, that was the first gif that we saw shortly after the TGA trailer, but in the highest quality possible. I have to say, looking at that, it's definitely better than what current gen games are outputting imo.
 
No, you weren't dumb. You were just comparing the wrongs numbers, which was dumb. Which you're doing again, btw. You're still comparing real-life numbers with theoretical throughput. It doesn't make sense.

Looks like Xbone HDD isn't rated 140 MB/s which would be 5600 MB/s according to MS's over 40x. That means MS either use real-life numbers, which was between 50-100MB or Xbone(S) HDD isn't 140 MB/s rated.
 

Reindeer

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Pretty sure most of it is real life video captured for the teaser, the only part that isnt is when you see the face.
Pretty sure with the amount of power next gen consoles will have you can make a few corridors look very realistic. There's just too much reflection and shine there for it to be real life.
 
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Brudda26

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Pretty sure with the amount of power next gen consoles will have you can make a few corridors look very realistic. There's just too much reflection and shine there for it be real life.
Its video of their studio, the other video ninja posted has video of some of the devs talking on the stairs in the project trailer.
 
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Reindeer

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Its video of their studio, the other video ninja posted has video of some of the devs talking on the stairs in the project trailer.
It looks similar to their studio, but there's clear differences when you watch the video. They could have just used their studio as design inspiration for the game. Don't know, that part in the video just looks too clean like models of interiors do in rendering. I could be wrong though. The first image that comes up doesn't look like it's from their studio.
 
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