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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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jonnyp

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So you are saying they shouldn't highlight small differences just because it's not a big deal? That kinda defeats the purpose of showing what differences there are between various versions. The ones that make a big deal out of this are fanboys who think those small differences matter in grand scheme of things. But to say DF shouldn't be thorough in their analysis just because it's not a big deal makes no sense whatsoever.

No, that is not what I am saying. Read it again.
 
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I get the feeling that Microsoft is pushing everything out there before PS5 reveal.. Is it a good or a bad sign??
I get the feeling that there's so much for them to push that they have to spread it, and keep the narrative all about the Xbox
 

Reindeer

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Sony fans on this thread: PlayStation wins because their logo got tons of views.

Sony fans on this thread: Microsoft is revealing games because they're scared.

Common, at least hide you fanboy views. No need to hate other games because they're not on your precious platform. And this is coming from people that have been saying forever that Microsoft needs to show more games. Fanboys truly will not be happy not matter what.
 

Gavin Stevens

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I actually have a sneaking suspicion that that may actually be teatime graphics. I can’t say why, it didn’t look quite right, in some way... maybe that’s just me being tired.

I also stand by the dots in the corner being the loading speed from fresh load of assets.

However, I now need a poo, so there may be more shit in this post than usual.
 

Rossco EZ

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Sony fans on this thread: PlayStation wins because their logo got tons of views.

Sony fans on this thread: Microsoft is revealing games because they're scared.

Common, at least hide you fanboy views. No need to hate other games because they're not on your precious platform. And this is coming from people that have been saying forever that Microsoft needs to show more games. Fanboys truly will not be happy not matter what.
one person said “just scared” and you are acting like 20 of us said it :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

PocoJoe

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Sony fans on this thread: PlayStation wins because their logo got tons of views.

Sony fans on this thread: Microsoft is revealing games because they're scared.

Common, at least hide you fanboy views. No need to hate other games because they're not on your precious platform. And this is coming from people that have been saying forever that Microsoft needs to show more games. Fanboys truly will not be happy not matter what.

Xbox fans are scared of Sonys global dominance and 18tflops dual APU powered BEAST
 
There must be something to it as bunch of tech experts seem to say the same thing. In fact Richard said he was worried it could hamper performance of Series X.

The port itself is not limited to 250W. End of.

When running at 240V the max power is 625W, and at 120V it's 1200W.

If Richard said it's limited to 250W (I didn't see he did), he screwed up.
 

Felessan

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I’m sure if you’re a developer with access to only the ps5, you will be sat there like a pig in shit. But the truth is, even if one SSD is half the spec as the other, the difference won’t be anywhere near as dramatic as some people will lead you to believe.
The peak sequential speed is actually for brag only. The real difference will be in how each company will deal with random access speed and how much paper speed they would be able to squeeze in reality.
PC random access efficiency is just straight out bad, for reference. On REra there were a test shots when NVME SSD with peak sequential of 3GB/s went down to 40MB/s on random access - and games likes random access to their assets.

Microsoft might truly be back next gen if they continue like this.
In half a year time nobody will care what was going on today or around now. Now only the most hardcore and most impatient are following leaks and rumors, the rest are yet to get interested. And all these leaks and doom and gloom will be quickly forgotten after actual reveal, like it was on ps4 launch.
So sony will continue with their own pace, there are still quite a lot of time to build the hype.
 

Reindeer

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In half a year time nobody will care what was going on today or around now. Now only the most hardcore and most impatient are following leaks and rumors, the rest are yet to get interested. And all these leaks and doom and gloom will be quickly forgotten after actual reveal, like it was on ps4 launch.
So sony will continue with their own pace, there are still quite a lot of time to build the hype.
Why does my comment about Microsoft being back and making games is taken so defensively by some Sony fans? Why does it hurt certain people that Microsoft is also successful in making videogames? I said nothing about Sony or that they won't dominate (which they most likely will), but it's more about the fact that Microsoft is back making games and being creative again.

I'm a gamer and don't care one bit about which platform a game I like will be on.
 
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ethomaz

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Why does my comment about Microsoft being back and making games is taken so defensively by some Sony fans? Why does it hurt certain people that Microsoft is also successful in making videogames? I said nothing about Sony or that they won't dominate (which they most likely will), but it's more about the fact that Microsoft is back making games and being creative again.
Are they? Can you give some examples that shows they are different in making games or being creative from the last two decades?
 
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demigod

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Why does my comment about Microsoft being back and making games is taken so defensively by some Sony fans? Why does it hurt certain people that Microsoft is also successful in making videogames? I said nothing about Sony or that they won't dominate (which they most likely will), but it's more about the fact that Microsoft is back making games and being creative again.

I'm a gamer and don't care one bit about which platform a game I like will be on.

Sony fans don't care, we will just buy that shit same release day on PC.
 

Reindeer

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Sony fans don't care, we will just buy that shit same release day on PC.
Speak for yourself, there's definitely a group that does care and gets very defensive. I also don't get this point of Sony fans bragging about playing Microsoft games on PC when they'll have to invest in a PC that will be considerably more costly than Xbox. Well, I guess if you have money then that's good for you, but bragging about it like you did yourself a favour by not going with a cheaper option is a bit silly.
 
Speak for yourself, there's definitely a group that does care and gets very defensive. I also don't get this point of Sony fans bragging about playing Microsoft games on PC when they'll have to invest in a PC that will be considerably more costly than Xbox. Well, I guess if you have money then that's good for you, but bragging about it like you did yourself a favour by not going with a cheaper option is a bit silly.
This is why I don't get that aspect of console warring.

"MS made a great game"

"Haha, jokes on you, I played it on PC"

"Okay?"

Same applies to the flipside. More people playing more games is great and what we should all want. Why does it matter so much to some people?
Sony fans don't care, we will just buy that shit same release day on PC.
Cha-ching.
 
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demigod

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Speak for yourself, there's definitely a group that does care and gets very defensive. I also don't get this point of Sony fans bragging about playing Microsoft games on PC when they'll have to invest in a PC that will be considerably more costly than Xbox. Well, I guess if you have money then that's good for you, but bragging about it like you did yourself a favour by not going with a cheaper option is a bit silly.

It's not cheaper if I have to pay for another box, now THAT would be silly. There are games on PC that you can't play on Xbox or more suitable for PC.
 

xool

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I actually have a sneaking suspicion that that may actually be teatime graphics. I can’t say why, it didn’t look quite right, in some way... maybe that’s just me being tired.

I also stand by the dots in the corner being the loading speed from fresh load of assets.

However, I now need a poo, so there may be more shit in this post than usual.

You <win/won> this thread.

Here in the UK it is always teatime -actually it is right now.
 

demigod

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This is why I don't get that aspect of console warring.

"MS made a great game"

"Haha, jokes on you, I played it on PC"

"Okay?"

Same applies to the flipside. More people playing more games is great and what we should all want. Why does it matter so much to some people?

Cha-ching.

Goodjob quoting me after I already posted way ahead of you and then you have to edit your post.
 

Reindeer

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It's not cheaper if I have to pay for another box, now THAT would be silly. There are games on PC that you can't play on Xbox or more suitable for PC.
I was obviously talking about next gen and how you'll have to spend considerably more to get the same level of performance on PC to play those Xbox games.
 
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Brudda26

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I actually have a sneaking suspicion that that may actually be teatime graphics. I can’t say why, it didn’t look quite right, in some way... maybe that’s just me being tired.

I also stand by the dots in the corner being the loading speed from fresh load of assets.

However, I now need a poo, so there may be more shit in this post than usual.
The dots are in reference to what project it is, mara is the 3rd hence the 3 dots. 2 dots appear in the hellblade trailer and 1 in the project insight trailer.
 

Rossco EZ

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And btw, it wasn't one person, at least couple more agreed with him and other messages about Sony domination and other such defensive posts. So yeah.
he’s had 2 likes on his post about “just scared” and who are the others you are saying are agreeing with him? i thought they were replying to your message about “Why does my comment about Microsoft being back and making games is taken so defensively by some Sony fans?” post? or am i missing something..
 

vpance

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Let’s see how it turn out then.
They needs less talk more delivery.

Talk a lot and talk things up is just MS PR style. Always has been always will be.

To me it just feels like they're scrounging up something to talk about while they have the spotlight. And they have it bc Sony doesn't seem to care right now, I guess.
 

Reindeer

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he’s had 2 likes on his post about “just scared” and who are the others you are saying are agreeing with him? i thought they were replying to your message about “Why does my comment about Microsoft being back and making games is taken so defensively by some Sony fans?” post? or am i missing something..
Someone here said it was only one person who said "they're scared" while it was 3 (1+2 that liked the message and agreed with him). I really don't wanna be bringing up names here now, but you can go back and see the posts after trailer came up and see for yourself.
 

Reindeer

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Talk a lot and talk things up is just MS PR style. Always has been always will be.

To me it just feels like they're scrounging up something to talk about while they have the spotlight. And they have it bc Sony doesn't seem to care right now, I guess.
Isn't the whole point of revealing your games so that it generates hype and gets people talking about it? Isn't that the whole point of marketing and building up hype for the upcoming console so people get excited? Am I missing something? Is Microsoft guilty now because they're revealing stuff when Sony are being quite? If anything this is smart marketing on their part.
 

Rossco EZ

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Someone here said it was only one person who said "they're scared" while it was 3 (1+2 that liked the message and agreed with him). I really don't wanna be bringing up names here now, but you can go back and see the posts after trailer came up and see for yourself.
yeah that was me, i saw one person say “just scared” and couple posts after saw the sony fans in this thread post from you hence this whole interaction of messages :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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