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For those anxious about seeing the PS5/specs, when was the last time Sony showed both 9 months before a consoles' release? I don't think it has ever happened. What I'm saying is, if reveal comes March or even April, that shouldn't be such a surprise. Sorry to burst your bubble guys.
 
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Smoke6

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If VFXVeteran would say earth is flat, you would believe him just because he is verified? Being verified doesn't mean insiders cant be wrong (for example their contacts can lie to them), and no sane person should blindly listen to anyone.

I'm not hating VFXVeteran, however what he has said in regards to Horizon 1 on PC (better graphics than Horizon 2 on PS5) is something really hard to believe. Yes, there's a REALLY SMALL CHANCE Horizon 1 on PC can look better than Horizon 2 on PS5. Rockstar already proved game can launch on current gen consoles (GTA5), but when higher quality assets are already there then PC version (or next gen console cersion) can look drastically better. However we know most of the time developers arnt going "full Rockstar" with their PC ports, but rather just add some simple tweaks. Based on probability there's a 99% chance Horizon 1 on PC will look like other PS4 ports on PC, yet VFXVeteran is certain Horizon 2 running on PS5 will look worse :D. So there are only two options here. VFXVeteran either saw Horizon 1 running on PC and Horizon 2 already running on PS5, and he based his opinion on facts, or he made that up. Which one scenario is more probable to you?

When it comes to his PS5 specs prediction it's possible his friends told him correct information. Leaks suggest initially PS5 was planed to launch with 8TF SoC, however they build another and stronger SoC for 2020. So yes, his GTX 1080 comparsion makes sense considering old SoC and it doesnt make him a liar. However he also said there's no way we will get 1080ti like performance in a console. I was the one who asked him about 1080ti, and he has said only delussional people will expect cheap console to offer 1080ti performance. For me it was strange, because after all it's not like 1080ti is much faster than 5700XT. Currently (after 12TF leaks in regards to XSX) VFXVeteran started to finally include 1080ti in his expectation, but people will always remember his previous posts.
No, I wouldnt. I care 0% what he or anyone insider here says. I am trying to make a point that people are looking for any way to discredit a guy that is, compared to other "insiders" people love to upvote, actually verified. Not that it matters, but it gives you an actual picture of what is going on here. People have made their opinion and are feeding their bias with whatever they can. I dont. I havent quote or argue for these insiders oke way or another, I tried to look into hard data we have instead of pedling with wannabe insiders here.
 

ANIMAL1975

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I'm an insider and people on this forum ignore the factual information that I tell because it doesn't align with their wishes. So does it really matter?
So speel the facts please, for instance, Osiris said that 2 of his sources are devs and the specs he got from them are 1 month old _ that's more o less specific. You have given a real world performance range, no specs... That's ok, it's what you have, but it's missing pieces to be 'factual':
_ from how many people did you get that information (were they devs)?
_ did they had both devkits?
_ what devkit version?
_ how old is this information, did they get new devkits or software tools since then, that you know of?
Thank you.

19th Feb. Bookmarking this. If you're right you get a tasty treat. If you're wrong I eat you instead.
Bookmark Tommy Fisher Tommy Fisher too, he said same date as 1st PSM, if he was referring to ps4 Meeting (it was not the first) that would be the 20th February.
If you were talking about other PSM Tommy, share with us. I'm too lazy to go dig for it 😁
 

xool

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For those anxious about seeing the PS5/specs, when was the last time Sony showed both 9 months before a consoles' release? I don't think it has ever happened. What I'm saying is, if reveal comes March or even April, that shouldn't be such a surprise. Sorry to burst your bubble guys.

Actually last time..

For Ps4. in 20 Feb 2013 they announced the console, including the ~2TFLOPS figure, 8 cores, 8GB RAM etc

But they didn't show the box until E3 in June, which was weird.
 

Gudji

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PS5 godfall ingame gameplay, not impressed.


is this what 13tflops + rt gives?

- Footage you're seeing is from a multiplayer game, ala warframe
- That recorded footage is one year old, meaning a very old build
- It runs at 4K 60 if we go by the released video from TGA

Lightning and effects look better than the majority games on current generation, even when you compare it to 30 FPS titles. The geometry itself isn't that impressive.
 

xool

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If VFXVeteran would say earth is flat, you would believe him just because he is verified? Being verified doesn't mean insiders cant be wrong (for example their contacts can lie to them), and no sane person should blindly listen to anyone.

I'm not hating VFXVeteran, however what he has said in regards to Horizon 1 on PC (better graphics than Horizon 2 on PS5) is something really hard to believe. Yes, there's a REALLY SMALL CHANCE Horizon 1 on PC can look better than Horizon 2 on PS5. Rockstar already proved game can launch on current gen consoles (GTA5), but when higher quality assets are already there then PC version (or next gen console cersion) can look drastically better. However we know most of the time developers arnt going "full Rockstar" with their PC ports, but rather just add some simple tweaks. Based on probability there's a 99% chance Horizon 1 on PC will look like other PS4 ports on PC, yet VFXVeteran is certain Horizon 2 running on PS5 will look worse :D. So there are only two options here. VFXVeteran either saw Horizon 1 running on PC and Horizon 2 already running on PS5, and he based his opinion on facts, or he made that up. Which one scenario is more probable to you?

When it comes to his PS5 specs prediction it's possible his friends told him correct information. Leaks suggest initially PS5 was planed to launch with 8TF SoC, however they build another and stronger SoC for 2020. So yes, his GTX 1080 comparsion makes sense considering old SoC and it doesnt make him a liar. However he also said there's no way we will get 1080ti like performance in a console. I was the one who asked him about 1080ti, and he has said only delussional people will expect cheap console to offer 1080ti performance. For me it was strange, because after all it's not like 1080ti is much faster than 5700XT. Currently (after 12TF leaks in regards to XSX) VFXVeteran started to finally include 1080ti in his expectation, but people will always remember his previous posts.

I think VFXveteran shat in his soup with those PCmasterrace claims, but I take his leaks seriously.

We already know HZD2 is going to look way better than HZD because of the techimprovements already seen in Death Stranding (water, smoke, fog, lighting is all vastly improved) .. but I think his point was about PC power or something
 

THE:MILKMAN

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Did any of the insiders here leak the ps5 dev kit pic? Nope.

Someone here showed the other day the image existed from November 8th way before the 30th when he posted it. Though I'm a little confused that all the images that come up on the 8th (and not the 7th) are links that report the Drunk Cats Tweet from the 30th?

I can't seem to find a link of the image before the 30th?
 

FrozenFlame

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Someone here showed the other day the image existed from November 8th way before the 30th when he posted it. Though I'm a little confused that all the images that come up on the 8th (and not the 7th) are links that report the Drunk Cats Tweet from the 30th?

I can't seem to find a link of the image before the 30th?
 

joe_zazen

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the games are developed on a PC....to target a WIDE VARIETY of PCs....Including PCs without fast SSDs....

All PS5s will have a high speed SSD...exclusive PS5 games will optimize game design around this feature

Sony games now on pc means we are not going to get super optimised closed box games anymore, just like we dont get consoles with unique guts anymore. Games will be made with pc mem/storage in mind. I really dont expect anything unique from sony.

and that is ok, because only first party aaa games can really take advantage of that, and sony has not made anything that could not be done on pc since, idk, ps2? Ps1? I know ps3 was the last time sony devs needed non-pc related skills. So all it means is pc gamers with a bit of patience do not need to by a $700 cdn ps5. They wiil, of course, need a speedy ssd and a 9+ tf gpu with raytracing.
 

THE:MILKMAN

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there it is, thanks for digging that up. also there is a photo of the devkit all the way back in october, different photo but same devkit https://www.zoneoftech.com/article/2019/10/15/ps5-2020-exclusive-first-look-release-date-amp-more

Gizmodo were the first to report the name of the dev kit and they say they had a picture of the dev kit that matched what ZoneofTech posted but decided not to post it. The leak came via their SecureDrop in June (E3 I guess).

 

Rossco EZ

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Gizmodo were the first to report the name of the dev kit and they say they had a picture of the dev kit that matched what ZoneofTech posted but decided not to post it. The leak came via their SecureDrop in June (E3 I guess).

yeah i wasn’t claiming zoneoftech had it first was just showing that photos of it go back even further than what drunkcat tweeted.
 
I think VFXveteran shat in his soup with those PCmasterrace claims, but I take his leaks seriously.

We already know HZD2 is going to look way better than HZD because of the techimprovements already seen in Death Stranding (water, smoke, fog, lighting is all vastly improved) .. but I think his point was about PC power or something
what do you mean about pcmasterrace claims? tbh he always seems to me smug as fuck lmao with his "insider knowledge!11" so being pcmr would suit him just right lel

anyways,
I wish fucking sony would open their mouth a little, it feels we're waiting years for new info at this point...
 

THE:MILKMAN

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yeah i wasn’t claiming zoneoftech had it first was just showing that photos of it go back even further than what drunkcat tweeted.

Oh sure, I didn't mean it in that way! The specific picture of what Drunk Cat posted is more important. If that specific image was posted somewhere else online before he tweeted it I would like to see it.
 
Sony games now on pc means we are not going to get super optimised closed box games anymore, just like we dont get consoles with unique guts anymore. Games will be made with pc mem/storage in mind. I really dont expect anything unique from sony.

and that is ok, because only first party aaa games can really take advantage of that, and sony has not made anything that could not be done on pc since, idk, ps2? Ps1? I know ps3 was the last time sony devs needed non-pc related skills. So all it means is pc gamers with a bit of patience do not need to by a $700 cdn ps5. They wiil, of course, need a speedy ssd and a 9+ tf gpu with raytracing.
Sony hasn't announced anything regarding their games on PC. How do you know they are going to develop PS5 games with PC in mind? This forum is full of insiders.
 

Rossco EZ

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Oh sure, I didn't mean it in that way! The specific picture of what Drunk Cat posted is more important. If that specific image was posted somewhere else online before he tweeted it I would like to see it.
yeah i’m gonna try have a look to see if i can find where it was posted first, i’m sure it was posted on reddit or 4chan first. i remember seeing the drunkcat tweet get linked in here and thinking to myself i’m sure i’ve seen that already :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Gamernyc78

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Now I'm confused. Whom is supposed to have the faster SSD access? MS for the connector type, or Sony's custom implimentation?

The narrative always been Sony has better SSD by alot, shit thts the first feature thy mentioned. RT is also supposed o to be better on PS5 too if you go by the leak consensus.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
The narrative always been Sony has better SSD by alot, shit thts the first feature thy mentioned. RT is also supposed o to be better on PS5 too if you go by the leak consensus.

Sadly, the PS5 could have twice the speed SSD as the SX, but that doesn’t mean it will be twice as fast. There are so many things at play here, from controller to random read/write access etc, and all of them have a different impact. But the sad truth is that even if one is 7x and one is 3.5x, you won’t actually see a massive difference in games. In fact you will see that 99% of games won’t have any difference at all, and those select few that do, will specifically be created for PS5 only to take advantage of it. And even THEN you wont be looking at massive gains, as it’s just overkill. It’s like chucking a 2080ti at Quake 3 at this stage, it’s shit loads faster than a 960 in every way, but it won’t be any different to the user.

It won’t be making the PS5 suddenly be twice as fast at rendering or even loading.

To me what’s far more interesting is what they are doing with regards to custom RT tech. That’s something i can’t just use prior hands on knowledge with to quantify, because it quite simply doesn’t exist to use. But faster SSD speeds? They don’t really matter in the scheme of things. But you can be sure as shit once they get a show on the go, thats all they will hammer on about as if it’s the best thing the universe has ever seen.
 
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DJ12

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Putting a QR code into the start screen doesn’t make sense even for a devkit.

Nice fake though.
QR codes are all the rage to sign into stuff these days. What would you prefer, type this long ass url into your phone, or quickly scan this with the PlaySstation app, which you probably already have all your details in so we can quickly link this device to you and create/link your PSN account to the box.

I really does confuse me how something so useful is used by some of you guys to cry foul.

If this is legit, it's a brilliant idea in my opinion. Mobile and PS5 instantly linked. Who knows what they are planning, but everything being linked as you turn it on is going to make stuff a lot easier in my opinion.
PS5 godfall ingame gameplay, not impressed.


is this what 13tflops + rt gives?
It's over a year old, and not on PS5. They said they created this video to show around. I imagine this is what they showed to Sony to get them on board with having it exclusive. The 2 second gameplay gif on their twitter feed shows how far this has come already.

Brightened up the image in light room and took some noise away
Quite a lot of large vents in the sideby the looks of it. I approve. Hopefully they are exhausts though else it will need cleaning weekly to get the dust out.
 
QR codes are all the rage to sign into stuff these days. What would you prefer, type this long ass url into your phone, or quickly scan this with the PlaySstation app, which you probably already have all your details in so we can quickly link this device to you and create/link your PSN account to the box.

I really does confuse me how something so useful is used by some of you guys to cry foul.

If this is legit, it's a brilliant idea in my opinion. Mobile and PS5 instantly linked. Who knows what they are planning, but everything being linked as you turn it on is going to make stuff a lot easier in my opinion.

I couldn’t agree with you more. Pairing your phone to a PS4 is needlessly complicated right now. Pairing my Xbox to the app just requires signing in and being on the same WiFi network.

I hope this is real because it makes a ton of sense.
 

splattered

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If you check out reddit they claim the new ps5 bootup and console are totally faked. I dunno what to believe. I'd probably be inclined to think that if that's a real ps5 console there's no way its gonna be 12+tf even with tons and tons of vents. Better hope the real console is big and ugly otherwise its gonna look nice on your entertainment center but disappoint in specs.
 
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Panajev2001a

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If you check out reddit they claim the new ps5 bootup and console are totally faked. I dunno what to believe. I'd probably be inclined to think that if that's a real ps5 console there's no way its gonna be 12+tf even with tons and tons of vents. Better hope the real console is big and ugly otherwise its gonna look nice on your entertainment center but disappoint in specs.

Volume is a way to solve the heating equation, but look at OG Xbox One vs PS4 and PS4 Pro to Xbox One X: you have lower volume/smaller box AND still a faster HW/higher performance.
 

splattered

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Volume is a way to solve the heating equation, but look at OG Xbox One vs PS4 and PS4 Pro to Xbox One X: you have lower volume/smaller box AND still a faster HW/higher performance.

Oh c'mon they were both using weak ass components that didnt push performance or heat for what we should have really gotten as a next gen leap. Both companies played it way too safe and MS just had a bigger chassis.

If you really want a true next gen leap you should check your expectations on form factor and just accept whatever is necessary to get us to 12tf territory.
 
If you check out reddit they claim the new ps5 bootup and console are totally faked. I dunno what to believe. I'd probably be inclined to think that if that's a real ps5 console there's no way its gonna be 12+tf even with tons and tons of vents. Better hope the real console is big and ugly otherwise its gonna look nice on your entertainment center but disappoint in specs.
The form factor Ofcourse is fake . Sony would not send retail version ps5 to dev .ps dev kits always look different than retail version . And we know how the recent dev kits look like .so a dev would not receive such thing from Sony
 

DJ12

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Reliable as a clown retweeting rumors from the web.
Ahh, let the little biasedpanda believe what suits his narrative.
Someone here showed the other day the image existed from November 8th way before the 30th when he posted it. Though I'm a little confused that all the images that come up on the 8th (and not the 7th) are links that report the Drunk Cats Tweet from the 30th?

I can't seem to find a link of the image before the 30th?
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there it is, thanks for digging that up. also there is a photo of the devkit all the way back in october, different photo but same devkit https://www.zoneoftech.com/article/2019/10/15/ps5-2020-exclusive-first-look-release-date-amp-more
Gizmodo were the first to report the name of the dev kit and they say they had a picture of the dev kit that matched what ZoneofTech posted but decided not to post it. The leak came via their SecureDrop in June (E3 I guess).

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yeah i wasn’t claiming zoneoftech had it first was just showing that photos of it go back even further than what drunkcat tweeted.
He didn’t post it first . He took it from a forum and just like everything else he didn’t give credit to the original poster . Just like that ps5 form factor where he took it from some one and gave zero credit .
Guys guys guys, just stop now, I think biasedpanda has realised he's made a mistake now.
Sadly, the PS5 could have twice the speed SSD as the SX, but that doesn’t mean it will be twice as fast. There are so many things at play here, from controller to random read/write access etc, and all of them have a different impact. But the sad truth is that even if one is 7x and one is 3.5x, you won’t actually see a massive difference in games. In fact you will see that 99% of games won’t have any difference at all, and those select few that do, will specifically be created for PS5 only to take advantage of it. And even THEN you wont be looking at massive gains, as it’s just overkill. It’s like chucking a 2080ti at Quake 3 at this stage, it’s shit loads faster than a 960 in every way, but it won’t be any different to the user.

It won’t be making the PS5 suddenly be twice as fast at rendering or even loading.

To me what’s far more interesting is what they are doing with regards to custom RT tech. That’s something i can’t just use prior hands on knowledge with to quantify, because it quite simply doesn’t exist to use. But faster SSD speeds? They don’t really matter in the scheme of things. But you can be sure as shit once they get a show on the go, thats all they will hammer on about as if it’s the best thing the universe has ever seen.
Isn't Sony's (or Samsung's) custom controller's party trick allowing the GPU to read directly from the SSD. Sure I read that somewhere. One things for sure, MS cheaped out on the SSD and controller and Sony didn't.

If PS5 is the dev platform of choice this gen (and it seems to be according to the GDC questionnaire), then games will use the SSD and other tricks it employs, this is an absolute fact. Then you will see the other platform running ever so slightly worse, maybe a touch longer for textures to pop in during game play in open world games etc. It won't be much, but it will be there for all to see.

Obviously, it the multi platform dev platform is the Xbox, then what you are saying could be true, but it will still load quicker.
 

sinnergy

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The form factor Ofcourse is fake . Sony would not send retail version ps5 to dev .ps dev kits always look different than retail version . And we know how the recent dev kits look like .so a dev would not receive such thing from Sony
Stranger things have happend :) if rumors are true Sony has been working on it more early than MS, could be a PS5 with dev mode ... like you can turn Xbox ones into a dev kit ... the presentation of this fake is top notch! Could be real / could be fake ...
 
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FranXico

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Stranger things have happend :) if rumors are true Sony has been working on it more early than MS, could be a PS5 with dev mode ... like you can turn Xbox ones into a dec kit ... the presentation of this fake is top notch! Could be real / could be fake ...
It's just a fake with a bit of attention to detail.
I appreciate it, but don't believe it.
 

xool

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what do you mean about pcmasterrace claims? tbh he always seems to me smug as fuck lmao with his "insider knowledge!11" so being pcmr would suit him just right lel

anyways,
I wish fucking sony would open their mouth a little, it feels we're waiting years for new info at this point...
Bit of exaggeration, but mostly the usual stuff about PC always being superior to console harware wise (which I'm not disagreeing with) .. but mostly the claim that Horizon Zero Dawn on PC would look better than "Horizon Zero Dawn 2" .. which is a silly idea imo
 
64 cu at 1.475 ghz would give you 12 tflops. 1.475 was the clockspeed in the Xbox devkit leak.

56 cores could easily fit in a 350-360 mm2 apu along with cores dedicated for ray tracing. 405mm2 confirms they are going wide and slow like they did with the Xbox one x when they had 8 more CUs than the 580. Sony did the same and had 4 more CUs than the 480. Sure they disabled them to get 36 active but like MS they had no problems adding extra CUs to amd GPUs. If the 5800xt is 60 CUs, i wouldn't be surprised if ms goes with even more CUs since they can't push the clocks like amd can in a desktop part.

XSX one? Is there a link you can provide for that by chance?

Otherwise, the main issue I have with your idea here is that a lot of other people who've estimated the chip's size put it at around 405mm2 and are going with 56CUs; any extra CUs would be tuned for ray-tracing (they have confirmed hardware-based ray-tracing and most here are assuming it'll be on the APU given that). I don't think 405mm2 is big enough for 64-70CUs AND units dedicated for ray-tracing AND all the other parts of the APU unless they severely scale back on, say, CPU L3$ to some ridiculously low 4MB amount.

That's why they'd need higher than 1450MHz for the GPU clock. I'd like to be proven wrong and they actually do have enough there for 64 or so CUs plus the ray-tracing and everything else for the APU, but you're the first (and only) person I've seen arriving to that number. Everyone else I've seen kind of lines it up with 60CUs and 4 disabled.

Now I'm confused. Whom is supposed to have the faster SSD access? MS for the connector type, or Sony's custom implimentation?

Nobody honestly knows. We're just going with reports that have come out, that's about it.

And prevailing narratives. But much of these aren't based on any hard data leaks, either (or in certain cases, are missing crucial context). So a lot of what's being speculated can probably end up wrong.
 
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demigod

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Then dont say "since devs say ps5 > xbox that means github/komachi/apisak are dead wrong".

I don't give a shit about komachi or apisak. How many times do I have to tell you that github info is OLD? Get it thru your thick skull, 8TF champ.

You are purposely misquouting him.

He clearly said, back in May last year, that PS5 will be around 9TF - 1080 specs. While he did clarify that to 1080TI, I suppose that is because 5700XT actually is on that level.

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Its funny how little you guys need to discredit anyone, even verified people here, but turn blind eye on neo members making up specs and refusing to get verified.

The spin you guys do when the facts are there. You must be blind if you don't see that he was clearly talking about 1080 performance there AND on here in November. Do you see us discrediting HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 even though he says xsx is stronger? Nope. Who's turning a blind eye on neo members? Let's face it, the only reason why you're defending him is because it aligns with your 8TF(lol). I don't see you coming to heisen and osiris' defense.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Isn't Sony's (or Samsung's) custom controller's party trick allowing the GPU to read directly from the SSD. Sure I read that somewhere. One things for sure, MS cheaped out on the SSD and controller and Sony didn't.

If PS5 is the dev platform of choice this gen (and it seems to be according to the GDC questionnaire), then games will use the SSD and other tricks it employs, this is an absolute fact. Then you will see the other platform running ever so slightly worse, maybe a touch longer for textures to pop in during game play in open world games etc. It won't be much, but it will be there for all to see.

Obviously, it the multi platform dev platform is the Xbox, then what you are saying could be true, but it will still load quicker.

Truth is we still have no 100% idea what the PS5 is doing. But your statement that Ms cheaped out on the SSD isn’t exactly fair, and I will stick up for MS here. The SSD MS will use isn’t exactly some shit cheap thing, and if Sony didn't go the way they have done, people wouldn’t be saying as such. The Ms solution is still a great one, just not “as great” as Sony.

As for the multiplatform stuff, more than likely Ps5 will be lead platform, yeah,
which makes sense. But this difference isn’t like, for example, a car that runs 60mph or 120mph There is a cap in which things start to show diminishing returns. And the truth is that, at least for the next few years, until assets get much, much better and larger, you won’t have much of any perceivable difference to the end user.

When you say texture pop in, yes that’s true. HOWEVER, this is the part that people get a little confused on so allow me to explain. They visualise the pop in issues we see in this generation, for example classic unreal engine streaming issue. So people are instantly making the connection the Xbox SSD will do this, and the ps5 will be instant. The truth is, there will still be pop in, and there will still be delays. You will never eliminate this because you can’t overflow the memory stack with that much data at once. So, get used to it. What we CAN do, is limit it. But here is the issue... Simply having a bog standard SSD will already do this to the point that now, we are looking at VERY minimal differences. So before with a mechanical drive on old DDR memory we had a delay, and now, we have a near instant but still visible delay.

So throwing bullshit figures out there that aren’t realistic but work for visual aid, if it took 10 seconds to populate the world with the highest mips and best quality LODs, it will now take 1 second with a bog standard SSD (which the Xbox doesn’t have as it seems to be pushing higher random read speeds). The PS5, will be loading those assets at 0.75 seconds (because it doesn’t directly correlate to twice as fast as mentioned previously).

So in other words you are going from 10 seconds for this generation to 1 second for SX and 0.75 for PS5.

Again totally bullshit figures but accurate to a sense of putting it into a perspective people can see.

So, that amazing expensive top of the line balls to the wall SSD has now not only cost a shit ton to produce and create, but it’s only saving you 0.25 seconds. Which, when it comes down to it, is barely anything.

Now let’s flip it again in favour of Ps5.

The times this WILL come in handy is when you start to use random memory consumption but at higher sizes and far greater frequency (or to put it in layman’s terms, the textures get higher res and there are more of them). So now you’re able to load far more data faster, and essentially this can make a difference. But this is something you won’t see for a good few years, and as such won’t present itself for a long time.

I’ve been working with asset optimisation for a LONG time, and know the impacts it has on memory, and know what help an SSD can have when used correctly. But sadly, the Ps5 SSD is being hyped up as this great saviour that will destroy everything in its path, when the truth of it is that due to the increased speeds both systems will have, the actual perceivable improvement between the two next gen machines will be minimal, to the point that the average user (read: not a digital foundry viewer) won’t ever even notice.
 
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Stranger things have happend :) if rumors are true Sony has been working on it more early than MS, could be a PS5 with dev mode ... like you can turn Xbox ones into a dev kit ... the presentation of this fake is top notch! Could be real / could be fake ...
Well if you zoom in on the text on the pc at the beginning it’s the pS4 code according to a dev and not ps5. So for sure it’s fake . Unless ps5 uses the same code name as ps4(orbis)
 
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