Vlightray
Member
In Front saleswise brand recoginiton wise profit etc.. yadda yadda. But yes if they botch this PS5 reveal and don't bring the games it will be straight downhill.
I think they have faired well tho without E3.
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I think they have faired well tho without E3.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I take it back E3 is great. Every year we get good cringe compilations. May it continue to gift us with corporations and their cringe for years. Also not sure why people are getting upset over others not being wet over this event. Y I K E S.
#TGS2020
#TGS2020
Vlightray
Member
oh I agree on this wholeheartedly hence my booth babes stuff.
all the Press sneak fucks can be put on the same shit heap where they truly belong I get my media most of it straight from Sony/Xbox Youtube channel and or sites.
Then Neogaf for the rest and that works rather well but goddamn pre-2013 E3 was kinda fun to have.
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Deleted member 774430
Unconfirmed Member
I think gamers should not take sides as there isn't a right or wrong one.
- ESA clearly didn't understand the power of E3, the power of the conferences, they found all this success by accident and their plan for the future is not a good one
- Sony, Keighley and others are clearly threatening ESA to get what they want out of E3 so by being out of it and pushing the message of "E3 bad" they know at some point ESA will try to get them back at Sony, Keighley, EA,... conditions.
For us honestly it shouldn't be a big deal:
1) if E3 dies, Gamescom will become the most important event (as it arguargbly already is in terms of attendance)
2) if E3 lives, nothing will change.
There is actually a possibility that Gamescom pushes to ESA to improve E3 and that will be perfect for us as competition would make both events bigger and better.
- ESA clearly didn't understand the power of E3, the power of the conferences, they found all this success by accident and their plan for the future is not a good one
- Sony, Keighley and others are clearly threatening ESA to get what they want out of E3 so by being out of it and pushing the message of "E3 bad" they know at some point ESA will try to get them back at Sony, Keighley, EA,... conditions.
For us honestly it shouldn't be a big deal:
1) if E3 dies, Gamescom will become the most important event (as it arguargbly already is in terms of attendance)
2) if E3 lives, nothing will change.
There is actually a possibility that Gamescom pushes to ESA to improve E3 and that will be perfect for us as competition would make both events bigger and better.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
No one was offended by the booth babes but there was backlash because some lonely nerds with no proper upbringing were feeling on the booth babes ... One story had some dude faking that he needed a wheelchair and every time he took a pic with a booth babe, he would "accidentally" touch something ... Boobs, butt, vagina. There was huge backlash because of that and similar instances.
Vlightray
Member
yeah whinging at how shit said conference will ended up being.
ZywyPL
Banned
It's not what it used to be anymore, not even remotely close, but still, watching live stream reveals are one of the most exciting moments related to gaming - the impatience, the unknown, the surprises, the disappointments, it's just one hell of an emotional rollercoaster, especially compared to nowadays lazy dropping an article/interview or a short teaser/trailer on the web, which are just... soulless.
That being said, I think that E3 and all the other bit annual conventions suffer greatly due to long development time of current-gen titles. Because not only there are less development studios then they were back in the PS360 era to begin with, but on top of that those studios that are still here need a 3, 4, or even 5 years to make a single game, as oppose to the once usual 1-2 years. So there's not really much to be shown on all those big conventions other than previously prepared teasers or trailers, live gameplays (even the fake pre-rendered ones) are almost completely gone, we are lucky if we even get some gameplay trailers during those shows, because most of the time they show up later out of a sudden on the internet.
So yeah, those big gaming conventions suffer from the lack of content, because the content simply isn't ready at the time, but this year will undoubtedly be big thanks to the upcoming consoles, both Sony and MS have to revel thei consoles, talk about them, show their features, capabilities, tech demos, launch titles and what's not, and Nintendo will also have to make an effort unless they wan't to be overshadowed and forgotten by the next generation.
That being said, I think that E3 and all the other bit annual conventions suffer greatly due to long development time of current-gen titles. Because not only there are less development studios then they were back in the PS360 era to begin with, but on top of that those studios that are still here need a 3, 4, or even 5 years to make a single game, as oppose to the once usual 1-2 years. So there's not really much to be shown on all those big conventions other than previously prepared teasers or trailers, live gameplays (even the fake pre-rendered ones) are almost completely gone, we are lucky if we even get some gameplay trailers during those shows, because most of the time they show up later out of a sudden on the internet.
So yeah, those big gaming conventions suffer from the lack of content, because the content simply isn't ready at the time, but this year will undoubtedly be big thanks to the upcoming consoles, both Sony and MS have to revel thei consoles, talk about them, show their features, capabilities, tech demos, launch titles and what's not, and Nintendo will also have to make an effort unless they wan't to be overshadowed and forgotten by the next generation.
Vlightray
Member
So kick him out not the babes the cosplaying was great the presence had more women there than the fake female gamers we have now with 256 colour hair.
Animagic
Banned
Yeah I miss it, but I miss a lot about the pre-2013 game industry tbh
Kagey K
Banned
That's half the fun of the E3 experience.
If you truly think E3 is dead, there would be no reason to tune into it at all.
Deputy Moonman
Member
It may not be what is was but it still provides entertainment. If it provides a stage to show games why are people so upset? You either like gaming events or you don't. This eff E3 talk is so lame.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
1: Nintendo is confirmed attending E3. It has never skipped a show in recent years.
2: you just proved my point. Press people are spiteful about the data leak and letting that kind of stuff affect your coverage of a major event for your readers/viewers is literally ridiculous and massively unprofessional.
3: I have a lot of respect for what Geoff Keighly has built with a lot of hard work, but honestly his presence or absence has absolutely zero influence on my enjoyment of a show about games. You complain about E3 having become about celebrities, but you seem to consider the absence of a celebrity oddly relevant
SleepDoctor
Banned
Sony and they cuckold geoff pull out of e3 and its bad now? I can only read so much idiocy on here lol.
You know you can still watch both shows. Especially if they aren't on at the same time.
You know you can still watch both shows. Especially if they aren't on at the same time.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Did I miss something in the past generation when it comes to E3? It has always been the same format as it will be this year, but suddenly it's shit? 5 years ago everyone was choosing a "winner" of E3 (as if you can win something like that...) and now Sony cancels for the second time after their lame last show and it's a shit show... Ridiculous
ResilientBanana
Member
I think the over the top, trying to connect to the youth, is a bad looks and always appears scripted. Just show us what we came to see and do it without making me cringe.
Jooxed
Gold Member
I’m not mad just disappointed. Nintendo E3 direct is lifeblood.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Tons of great actual gameplay vids come out of E3... y'all care too much about the big AAA studios or something who do the BS marketing things.
EightBit Man
Member
I never liked it when it became such a blown up, empty, glitz and glamour thing. Just keep it humble, and let the show floor speak for itself.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Should clarify that I didn’t really consider Nintendo’s very different presentation part of E3, at a quick thought.
I was talking solely about Microsoft and Sony. You can see it with the aspects I criticized. Aside from that one E3 where the only thing new was Fortnite, I tend to absolutely love Nintendo’s presentations.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I also like the GIFs. Those are cool.
Hawking Radiation
Member
1. Its come to my attention that just yesterday Nintendo announced they are participating in E3 this year.1: Nintendo is confirmed attending E3. It has never skipped a show in recent years.
2: you just proved my point. Press people are spiteful about the data leak and letting that kind of stuff affect your coverage of a major event for your readers/viewers is literally ridiculous and massively unprofessional.
3: I have a lot of respect for what Geoff Keighly has built with a lot of hard work, but honestly his presence or absence has absolutely zero influence on my enjoyment of a show about games. You complain about E3 having become about celebrities, but you seem to consider the absence of a celebrity oddly relevant
2. You're asking people to ignore their data getting leaked and just continue as normal and return to the same show that leaked the data in the first place without hesitation because 'unprofessional' and 'the show must go on'. Lol ok
3. His Game Awards show has been gaining more viewers every year since its inception. Microsoft chose to reveal their new console on his show. He has reached the sort of status that him snubbing E3 will definitely affect the show. He has long been a big part of the E3 experience. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional.
You consider Geoff Keighly a celebrity? Odd, i though the was a video game journalist. Anyhow if you look forward to more appearances by Keanu Reeve's or other celebrities on a game show, more power to you. E3 used to be about the games. Its now looking like its going to be more like a live MTV show.
killatopak
Gold Member
I used to tune in on E3.
Now I just wait for the youtube trailers.
Now I just wait for the youtube trailers.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Bad? No.
Irrelevant? Yes.
Irrelevant? Yes.
Potato Chip PRO
Member
Tbh, I don't care about the event that much. I just watch it when Sony, MS and Nintendo present their conference and I'm out. 3rd party can battle it out the whole week.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Sir you literally just described the TGAs tbh
bitbydeath
Gold Member
E3 needs a shakeup sure but I like having a day where I know a ton of gaming news is going to drop.
Stuart360
Member
I still love it, its like a 2nd Christmas for gamers. Love the conferences, love the day long live streams that gaming sites do interviewing devs and showing off games. Love the Ubisoft fake chatter demo's which are always cringy but hilarious. Love it all.
I dont really see how you can be a big gamer and not love it.
I dont really see how you can be a big gamer and not love it.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Ignore?
No. You don't need to ignore it. This doesn't mean you should let it influence your coverage, because yes, that's unprofessional (and petty). My data has been leaked multiple times. I took my precautions and due steps, and then moved on with my life.
Geoff Keighley hasn't worked as a journalist for years. He used to be. Now he's a popular presenter, host, and show organizer. That pretty literally fits in the definition of a celebrity.
PS: Nintendo isn't participating in E3 "this year." They have been every year.
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009EspadaSageJay
Member
Im hear for the major companies and what they will anoucce and hearing interviews from the game devs themselves all the extra fluff doesnt matter especially when the only thing these personalities say is almost void of substance "WOW look ath the graphics Is the story good?" No talk about anything important or concerning
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I won't even say you're probably right...as that would be an understatement. It's just true.
009EspadaSageJay
Member
1. Its come to my attention that just yesterday Nintendo announced they are participating in E3 this year.
good
2. You're asking people to ignore their data getting leaked and just continue as normal and return to the same show that leaked the data in the first place without hesitation because 'unprofessional' and 'the show must go on'. Lol ok
people tax information and credit scores got leaked last year and those are way more serious then just your ID getting jacked. If getting information leaked is a problem everyone here should be still boycotting sony for that massive security breach back in 2011.
3. His Game Awards show has been gaining more viewers every year since its inception. Microsoft chose to reveal their new console on his show. He has reached the sort of status that him snubbing E3 will definitely affect the show. He has long been a big part of the E3 experience. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional.
You consider Geoff Keighly a celebrity? Odd, i though the was a video game journalist. Anyhow if you look forward to more appearances by Keanu Reeve's or other celebrities on a game show, more power to you. E3 used to be about the games. Its now looking like its going to be more like a live MTV show.
The same show that hires celerbs that have nothing to do with gaming and know nothing about gaming but are paid millions to show up to hand out awards for a entertainment medium they ridicule and look down on yea ok LOL calling E3 a MTV show when the game awards is MTV,golden globe and the occars all in one with Commercial breaks that rival the supper bowl.
ManaByte
Gold Member
We still have the Devolver Digital acid trip too.
Darlingcognito
Member
Jeff must be smoking whatever Kojima is. The self important grand standing of those two is fuckin hilarious.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Holy shit. That short blonde is amazing!That dude can't play for S H I T !
"Yes police, I'd like to file an assault charge on behalf of my ears, this tone-deaf moron violated them."
What's their Insta?
Tiktok and OnlyFans links too if you got 'em
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So no more of these Jimmy Ryan classics.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
It's pointless and outdated in my opinion. Having everyone gather in a shitty convention center was useful once upon a time, but the Internet allows everyone to effectively reveal information on their own terms and on their own timeline, which is just better for the games industry as a whole. So much unnecessary crunch, coordination, and stress goes into making things fit into the show (both in terms of physical location and timing) and it's really not worth it at all if in terms of the coverage and excitement you can generate.
JustP_Gaming
Banned
Honestly the only bad about E3 was Sony's last 2 presentations, some of the worst I've ever seen.
nikolino840
Member
No why?
Announcements,trailers,Door closed previews,now open to the public
Announcements,trailers,Door closed previews,now open to the public
PleaseWaitStation4
Banned
When the blue hairs started throwing monkey shit at E3 until making it unenjoyable to anything males enjoy, plus deep-cringe announcement shows that unveil the same first person game that are only exciting to Twitch THOT streamers. EA on deck to show their latest money trap to take advantage of children. Yay! What a show!... Oh yea, let me add the entire corrupt gaming journalism industry that will gatekeep it from anyone trying to change it back the way it was. Good times!
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A) this tv crap was like 10 years ago
b) tv crap wasn’t even at E3. This was a separate event. Microsoft ALWAYS only presented games on e3.
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