Insane Metal
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Good to know that China has this under control now.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Captain Zyrain
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The crazy thing is even if you just take deaths / cases, it's still around 3% CFR. If cases keep going down, but deaths don't, it could go up from there.
Of course, you need to believe the reported numbers are 100% real, so who knows.
Hubei numbers.. still apparently 92% of the new cases. The rest of Chiner is spared! It's an Xi Miracle!
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Insane Metal
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There's a delay between infection and complication until death.
Smiles and Cries
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the numbers make less sense each day out of China
let's create a South Korea or Japan thread because Wuhan ran out of people by now
let's create a South Korea or Japan thread because Wuhan ran out of people by now
Captain Zyrain
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Insane Metal
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FUCK
SK is into the pandemic.
SK is into the pandemic.
Smiles and Cries
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If this keeps up by this time next week South Korea is going to shut down cities
I am still very disturbed by the image of North Korea burning bodies while claiming they have had no cases for North Korea
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Insane Metal
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What??
Captain Zyrain
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JUSTTHEFLU! I hate that it feels like moving the goal posts but it seems like we're always waiting to see what things will look like two weeks from now.
Worldwide were around where China was when this thread was started. So even if it expands identical to China.. We should see some massive growth in a week.
Smiles and Cries
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I don't want to watch it again to give you a time stamp too damn depressing
If you want to know what is going on in North Korea watch this video he has good sources
time 5:50 in
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Captain Zyrain
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Smiles and Cries
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Stouffers
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This conference pulls a lot of board of directors and their spouses.. usually 70s/80s. This could get ugly.
Smiles and Cries
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and messy promotions
Captain Zyrain
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"The teacher has no record of overseas travel in the past 2 weeks and is not known to have been in contact with an infected person."
Smiles and Cries
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the only good sign here is Japan is improving its testing method to even know this much about 1 case
Croatoan
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The "well the flu kills a lot of people" crowd has a point.
And
The "COVID is super serious" crowd has a point.
But Here is the real shit. This thing isn't going to be as bad, or as good, as some of yall think. Like all things in life it will be somewhere in the middle, and where that falls will mostly depend on luck. There is nothing you can do about it other than to change your life style/ hygiene, grab some emergency supplies, and maybe pray if that is your thing. The biggest worry you should have is about the economy because if you, and your loved ones , live through this (which is likely) you will be dealing with some real shit no matter what. If you die, well then you won't really have any worries will you?
Sorry, I am just really fucking tired of the doomers, and the "head in the sand-ers". I see the annoying sarcastic attacks everywhere and and it's tiring. In times like these we need to be above the bs.
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The "COVID is super serious" crowd has a point.
But Here is the real shit. This thing isn't going to be as bad, or as good, as some of yall think. Like all things in life it will be somewhere in the middle, and where that falls will mostly depend on luck. There is nothing you can do about it other than to change your life style/ hygiene, grab some emergency supplies, and maybe pray if that is your thing. The biggest worry you should have is about the economy because if you, and your loved ones , live through this (which is likely) you will be dealing with some real shit no matter what. If you die, well then you won't really have any worries will you?
Sorry, I am just really fucking tired of the doomers, and the "head in the sand-ers". I see the annoying sarcastic attacks everywhere and and it's tiring. In times like these we need to be above the bs.
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Ma-Yuan
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It's really hard to believe how quick SK and Japan fucked that up. My wife is thai as mentioned before in the thread and she can't believe nothing is happening in Thailand so far. More luck then brains she says. But yeah my family trip in April to Japan is basically canceled 
thai airways already all flights to Japan... Let's see if we can still visit her family 
thai airways already all flights to Japan... Let's see if we can still visit her family 
DragoonKain
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Every time outbreaks like this happen it makes me wonder if humanity will end via virus. I think it's top 5 most likely scenarios.
bitbydeath
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I hate that it feels like moving the goal posts but it seems like we're always waiting to see what things will look like two weeks from now.
Worldwide were around where China was when this thread was started. So even if it expands identical to China.. We should see some massive growth in a week.
So to put a stop to the Corona virus all we need to do is find a cure for the common flu...
Porcile
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Extremely likely that the virus has been circulating for weeks now.
Rentahamster
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Hardly. Even when humans were dying in droves in the early European cities, there was enough people remaining to make Western civilization into what it is today. Even when early European explorers brought plagues to the New World and devestated the native populations, those native populations didn't go extinct.
We are currently at a point in history where we have medical treatment and a scientific understanding of germ theory that is lightyears ahead of where we were a millennium ago. And even if some weird virus did happen to wipe us out to the brink of extinction, the hunters and gatherers will still go on because plagues can't propagate without large population centers. And as long as some of us survive, some will be immune, and those people will repopulate.
A dinosuar like extinction level asteroid impact is more likely to kill 100% of all humans.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I agree, with asteroid impact, but I said top 5, not most likely. And you're right, we survived outbreaks before and are more equipped to deal with them now, but also travel is more frequent and common than it ever was. If some super contagious and highly deadly virus breaks out, we are gonna be in a lot of trouble. But it would have to be the perfect storm of mutations and type of virus to make it happen.
Rentahamster
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Well, part of my point was that I don't think it's even on the list, since the likelihood of it even wiping us all out is so low. Measuring from the present time until some unspecified time in the future when we establish ourselves on other planets, I don't think there is enough time for a virus like that to arise naturally and kill everyone. Maybe if it's engineered? But even still, it would be extremely hard to engineer a virus that is 100% lethal that doesn't burn itself out too quickly because it killed everyone it could infect before having a chance to infect others. Maybe if an AI developed the virus, but at that point, we are transitioning into the "Machines killed off all the humans" reasons for extinction.
And even then, how the hell is that virus making it into the jungles of South America or into inner Mongolia or any of these isolated places to kill off the rest of the humans?
Our frequency of travel is not enough to overcome modern healthcare, especially when the worst effect is that it'll just wipe out the places that people travel to. Humans live on a lot of shithole places on this planet that no one goes to. Also especially since while people can travel quickly, we also have means to ban that travel en masse.
And information travels quicker.
That's what makes it extremely unlikely, and nowhere near top 5. If you look up past extinction level events, they were all things that fucked up the planet on a global scale.
Extinction event - Wikipedia
The wild card, is of course, humanity, but I don't think we are advanced enough yet for us as a species to wipe ourselves out completely.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I agree it’s extremely unlikely, but I also think an asteroid or comet impact is highly unlikely. You have this tiny blue ball floating in space and the odds that an asteroid hits it is unlikely. Now obviously this planet has been hit before so it’s likely it will happen again at some point, but I’m just saying I don’t consider any one cause to be mathematically likely. Nuclear war might be the most likely and I don’t even consider that likely either.. or if you go farther into the future some type of earth change making the planet uninhabitable.Well, part of my point was that I don't think it's even on the list, since the likelihood of it even wiping us all out is so low. Measuring from the present time until some unspecified time in the future when we establish ourselves on other planets, I don't think there is enough time for a virus like that to arise naturally and kill everyone. Maybe if it's engineered? But even still, it would be extremely hard to engineer a virus that is 100% lethal that doesn't burn itself out too quickly because it killed everyone it could infect before having a chance to infect others. Maybe if an AI developed the virus, but at that point, we are transitioning into the "Machines killed off all the humans" reasons for extinction.
And even then, how the hell is that virus making it into the jungles of South America or into inner Mongolia or any of these isolated places to kill off the rest of the humans?
Our frequency of travel is not enough to overcome modern healthcare, especially when the worst effect is that it'll just wipe out the places that people travel to. Humans live on a lot of shithole places on this planet that no one goes to. Also especially since while people can travel quickly, we also have means to ban that travel en masse.
And information travels quicker.
That's what makes it extremely unlikely, and nowhere near top 5. If you look up past extinction level events, they were all things that fucked up the planet on a global scale.
Extinction event - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The wild card, is of course, humanity, but I don't think we are advanced enough yet for us as a species to wipe ourselves out completely.
nush
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nikolino840
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Exorcism
Armorian
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Coronavirus: asymptomatic Wuhan woman shows why outbreak 'will be hard to stop'
Case study of 20-year-old who infected relatives despite not showing signs of illness – and testing negative – stokes global pandemic fears
www.theguardian.com
Case study of 20-year-old who infected relatives despite not showing signs of illness – and testing negative – stokes global pandemic fears
Coronavirus: asymptomatic Wuhan woman shows why outbreak 'will be hard to stop'
Case study of 20-year-old who infected relatives despite not showing signs of illness – and testing negative – stokes global pandemic fears
www.theguardian.com
Smiles and Cries
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The WHO has failed us all
7 minutes in he has some inside info about Iran very bad news
7 minutes in he has some inside info about Iran very bad news
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synchronicity
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Besides common sense like hygiene (not touching your face/eating without cleaning your hands properly and avoiding the ill if possible), you can always supplement with natural antivirals like garlic.
Insane Metal
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I'm scared the shit out of myself with this virus. When this hits my country (Brazil) we're fucked. We have very close social relationships, everyone likes to hug, shake hands, kiss each others on the cheeks etc. This will be an absolute nightmare to control. Also our health system is already chaotic, with public hospitals constantly crowded and missing medicines and equipment/personnel. I can't even imagine what's gonna happen when this thing gets here.
I said 'when' because it's pretty certain this will happen, sooner or later. This thing is unstoppable. Measures can be taken to lower the contagion rates but in today's world there's no way this will simply be contained and go away.
Smiles and Cries
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I wish nations like China, North Korea, and Iran would stop bullshitting about the numbers if it mutates into something stronger we are all fucked.
Insane Metal
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Fucking hell...
iorek21
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I'm actually really surprised that there are no cases in South America
But yeah, Carnaval will surely change that
Everything is fine ! Glad world governments are taking action , it’s not like some spread the disease for 27 days without symptoms...
Maybe they should have task forces that also monitor the news so they knew this 3 weeks ago if I knew it ..
Instead of quarantine people for only 2 weeks..
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Maybe they should have task forces that also monitor the news so they knew this 3 weeks ago
if I knew it ..Instead of quarantine people for only 2 weeks..
/sarcasm
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Insane Metal
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There are many places without cases yet. So if there's no one infected nothing will change. And so far I believe that's the case. Thank God, because with Carnival... holy shit :\
Smiles and Cries
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a quarantine extention from 14 days to 30+ would have been too smart, WHO could ask for such a thing?
Smiles and Cries
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Because this is a new virus, places that don't have the new test kits can't test for it. You can't test for it, you don't have it.
The WHO is shipping some test kits to some places in Africa that has been hinting at it. It could be the same for South America right now.
Brazil is in far better shape than most other countries in South America but they should be among the first to have positive tests coming out in the news. Other places might take far longer.
Ornlu
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Will you please stop gaslighting people to cover for China?
Yeah, if this shit wasn't mostly located in one province of one country, it would be a lot deadlier than the usual influenza strains. We get it that a current worldwide virus has a total death toll higher than something new. We got it. We're good.
McHuj
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Maybe it’s something to do with the season (summer) of the Southern Hemisphere. Hopefully like the flu, it’s harder to spread the virus in the summer seasons.
Insane Metal
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We've had more than 20 individuals tested so far and all came with negative results. Let's hope they are indeed negative (since we heard of people testing negative and than later being tested positive).
That escalated fast really fast
Smiles and Cries
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negative results might just be the fault of training for a new test. Or just looking for something new in a test you are familiar with. The problem is it will take time for all of this stuff to be ironed out. By the time we do every nation will have cases walking around undetected.
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