Nope. N64 had several advantages over PS1, including a real Z-buffer (in fact it's the only system that gen that understood "real" 3D; both PS1 and Saturn basically had really smart 2D super-DSPs (well, Saturn used a 2nd SH2 for that functionality) to calculate complex math coordinates, but neither one actually "knew" it was outputting 3D coordinates in a 3D space the way the N64 did) and more VRAM as well as a much faster CPU. Even the Saturn has some advantages over PS1 including raw polygonal output, VRAM, better 2D hardware (thanks to VDP2) and higher resolution output.
PS2 was overall weaker than both Gamecube and OG Xbox, only having a genuine advantage in terms of particle fillrate (and against Gamecube, higher-capacity discs). Even the Dreamcast was better than PS2 in areas like deferred rendering, VRAM amount, color saturation and resolution output support, and it released over a year ahead of Sony's system.
PS3's main strength was Cell's flexibility to make up for its weak GPU; had it not been for Cell I doubt even 1st-party PS3 titles would've caught up to 360's mid-gen releases. That's how bad the RSX was, as well as the split memory pool (big reason why PS3 couldn't support cross-game chat like 360 did). The flexibility of the SPEs are what helped PS3 perform on par with 360 visually, but it was mainly the budget Sony pumped into latter-gen 1st party like TLOU that helped those games look better than 360 titles (at least technically). Otherwise besides arguably blu-ray, PS3 had no other advantages over 360 and it took a long time for the SPEs to be utilized effectively even by their 1st parties.
PS4 is the only Sony system that has been clearly better than the competitor at release and during its generation. Even then, the XBO did have a slightly higher CPU clockspeed. Basically the notion of Sony chasing for the "power crown" every gen is a false narrative when you look at their history. So it's more likely to continue with historical trends going forward than go against them.
EDIT:Gavin Stevens beat me to the punch kinda sorta mostly on this, but I think they were speaking to a generally different point and just bringing up prior consoles to set an example.
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It was until the BDP-S300 dropped to 500 in 2007 and even at an equal price or let's say 50 bucks more everybody chose the console with all it's features.
It was the cheapest since launch in the US. Blu-ray players were crazy expensive at first. I convinced my dad to get a PS3 just cause it was cheaper than the blu-ray player he was gonna buy.
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You don't understand what I said, I said they were the benchmarks within the time of their releases, no console has ever released at the same price in the same year as PlayStation and was stronger, NONE.Nope. N64 had several advantages over PS1, including a real Z-buffer (in fact it's the only system that gen that understood "real" 3D; both PS1 and Saturn basically had really smart 2D super-DSPs (well, Saturn used a 2nd SH2 for that functionality) to calculate complex math coordinates, but neither one actually "knew" it was outputting 3D coordinates in a 3D space the way the N64 did) and more VRAM as well as a much faster CPU. Even the Saturn has some advantages over PS1 including raw polygonal output, VRAM, better 2D hardware (thanks to VDP2) and higher resolution output.
PS2 was overall weaker than both Gamecube and OG Xbox, only having a genuine advantage in terms of particle fillrate (and against Gamecube, higher-capacity discs). Even the Dreamcast was better than PS2 in areas like deferred rendering, VRAM amount, color saturation and resolution output support, and it released over a year ahead of Sony's system.
PS3's main strength was Cell's flexibility to make up for its weak GPU; had it not been for Cell I doubt even 1st-party PS3 titles would've caught up to 360's mid-gen releases. That's how bad the RSX was, as well as the split memory pool (big reason why PS3 couldn't support cross-game chat like 360 did). The flexibility of the SPEs are what helped PS3 perform on par with 360 visually, but it was mainly the budget Sony pumped into latter-gen 1st party like TLOU that helped those games look better than 360 titles (at least technically). Otherwise besides arguably blu-ray, PS3 had no other advantages over 360 and it took a long time for the SPEs to be utilized effectively even by their 1st parties.
PS4 is the only Sony system that has been clearly better than the competitor at release and during its generation. Even then, the XBO did have a slightly higher CPU clockspeed. Basically the notion of Sony chasing for the "power crown" every gen is a false narrative when you look at their history. So it's more likely to continue with historical trends going forward than go against them.
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Nope, Xbox One was weaker than PS4, Wii was weaker than 360/PS3, Wii U was weaker than PS4/XB1.By that notion you can apply that rationale to ANY game console, though. When MegaDrive released, it was the benchmark for those same reasons. Same goes for N64, for OG Xbox, for 360 etc. Even systems like 3DO and Neo Geo fall within the terms you just mention, they were also benchmarks for their day at the time they released since no other system released at their price in the same year that were stronger
So why is that a valid metric to use in speaking about Sony systems in particular?
slapping him with facts 
And I mentioned three systems that were out at same time they released or even before they released.
In case you "missed it".
People see what they want to see. But I've definitely observed some of the more staunched PS fans persistently downplaying anything related to XSX. Since there are more PS fans on the forum, then that means there's more staunched PS fans and therefore more staunch PS fans going into console warrior mode. So that doesn't mean there aren't Xbox fans doing the same, just that there's less of them doing it, because there are less Xbox fans. Pretty simple.
But FWIW, lumping everyone who's speculating PS5 maybe being the weaker of the two as #teamgithub is disingenuous. Again, it's not just Xbox fans who might be coming to that conclusion, it includes a lot of people with no strong preference to either brand. And some aren't even using the Github leak anymore, because it's not required. There's other results that've been coming up falling somewhere in line with that leak, and have more context (but not absolute context).
For myself personally I think those other sources are at least as valuable to consider as the insiders, so I don't understand this obsession on either side why people have to choose one or the other absolutely in order to not be seen by some as fanboys. Github is definitely not absolute. The benchmarks are not absolute. Reports like those from IGN Japan and Bloomberg are not absolute. But the insiders are also not absolute.
So, just speaking for myself, anyone who's 1000000% riding #TeamGithub or #TeamInsider, imho, aren't any better or correct than the other. Both cases are mainly people listening to sources telling them what they want to hear. And that's okay in moderation. But when you take any single type of source almost fanatically, you end up with whatever the hell happened to this thread overnight xD.
Also I could've sworn I made a post almost just like this only a few days ago so, we really just going around in circles here now?
By that notion you can apply that rationale to ANY game console, though. When MegaDrive released, it was the benchmark for those same reasons. Same goes for N64, for OG Xbox, for 360 etc. Even systems like 3DO and Neo Geo fall within the terms you just mention, they were also benchmarks for their day at the time they released since no other system released at their price in the same year that were stronger
So why is that a valid metric to use in speaking about Sony systems in particular?
It actually was.
So all PS fanboys are reasonable angels and all Xbox fanboys are hateful devils? Sounds a bit one-sided to me, but i guess that makes me number 16
But you still can't deny what I originally said, AT THEIR TIME.
LOL who would even be "pissed on"? Future XsX and PS5 owners give zero fucks about future PC GPU's.
PS3 was also a great DLNA client, thanks to a PC program called PS3 Media Server. Honestly, I used it much more for TV series and movies for quite some time before those amazing exclusives began to pop up.I bought my PS3 as a BluRay player, and checked out this uncharted thing people said was decent.
It was still my bluray player, but I damn enjoyed it all.
At the time, if I remember right, it was over a hundred quid or so more for a dedicated blu ray player, so it was stupid to not get it. Of course it wasn’t as good as some dedicated ones but at that price it was still very decent.
I also paid for a hd-dvd add on drive, and... never ended up watching a single movie on it. Gold job MS
This generation was quite an exception to that rule, because PS4 was not just cheaper, but also more powerful. Kinect and ESRAM really screwed Xbox.
So all PS fanboys are reasonable angels and all Xbox fanboys are hateful devils? Sounds a bit one-sided to me, but i guess that makes me number 16
So all PS fanboys are reasonable angels and all Xbox fanboys are hateful devils? Sounds a bit one-sided to me, but i guess that makes me number 16
I appreciate your words as it’s very true. The reality is we don’t know which is more powerful at this point. Personally, I hope they are very close in power. I want to see a neck and neck battle where even the biggest fanboy can see the merits on both sides of the fence. There is no reason to fight as both consoles will satiate the need to play our favorite games. But games are games and there is no reason to pick a team especially if certain games are of interest to the gamer.
A miserable pile of secrets,but enough talk have at you.
Except I didn't move any goal post, I just made a clear and concise statement, you moved the goal posts and then you claim that I MOVED THE GOAL POST? SON!!
These fanboys are so out of it and they'll take and spin everything you say that can negate their points, even though what I said is clear and concise.
NOOOOOOOO. Fuck. Its best if Sony and MS do their own online press conference to reveal everything.
Sad but true
This is gonna be my real next gen! Ready for it!
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