SegaSnatcher
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Jesus Christ!!! 3.8Ghz clock speed for the CPU, I was not at all expecting that.
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Fun Fanboy
Banned
Didn't he say it would of been last tuesday. Maybe E3 cancellation stuff made the news go to this week. One week off. Better correct percentage then all those that said PS5 Feb reveal!
Mendou
Banned
I can't find anything before the 18th of December 2020. Can you link the exact quote?
DaGwaphics
Member
I assume they were looking for more bandwidth, two pools give you more concurrent bandwidth. At least that's what I'm getting from the DF vid.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
So tommy fisher was right regarding to xsx gpu clockspeed and cu count, which pretty much confirms PS5 will be 52cus @ 2000mhz which would result in 13.3tflops.
This would mean the PS5 is 9.5% more powerful in the GPU.
We still dont know what the differences will be with CPU and Ram, so if ps5 has a lower clocked CPU, the differences would count each other out and the consoles would be even on power.
To put the power difference into perspective it would be like if the xbox one had the same memory setup as the ps4 and a 1.68tf GPU.
Games will perform the same.
Its great news both systems are beasts.
This would mean the PS5 is 9.5% more powerful in the GPU.
We still dont know what the differences will be with CPU and Ram, so if ps5 has a lower clocked CPU, the differences would count each other out and the consoles would be even on power.
To put the power difference into perspective it would be like if the xbox one had the same memory setup as the ps4 and a 1.68tf GPU.
Games will perform the same.
Its great news both systems are beasts.
llien
Member
Fun Fanboy
Banned
I'm guessing 499 for the X1X.
silent head
Member
52 active CUs at 2.0Ghz ~ 13.3TFlops
PS5
52 active CUs at 1.82Ghz ~ 12.1TFlops
XseX
gl
DaGwaphics
Member
And locked (3.6 with SMT), I was totally thinking that we were getting a mobile variant.
Reindeer
Member
Yeah, Tommy Fisher > all other insiders so far. The guy even had clockspeeds right and we were all laughing him off.
LordOfChaos
Member
So I imagine there's two missing numbers from the spec sheet
It says:
16GB GDDR6
10GB @ 560 GB/s, 6GB @ 336 GB/s
What we don't know is the GPU accessing the CPUs pool, and the CPU accessing the GPUs pool, probably at somewhat reduced bandwidth? It’s the whole idea of unified memory, going back to fixed pools probably isn't what they did, just takes a hit to move across pools.
This is quite detailed but of course my mind fixates on the remaining puzzles lol
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ethomaz
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It seems to be only a single pool.
They are splitting it via page allocation I guess (software).
xool
Member
It's a trade off between cost and bandwidth (at the same 16GB) - they could have gone 16 1GB chips for a 512 bit interface - huge bandwidth, but more cost not just the chips but extra die space for the 'channels' .. or they could have gone 8x 2GB chips for a 256 bit bus - less bandwidth, but cheaper.
The compromise just makes 6GB of the 16GB a bit slower than the rest .. ok when most of it is being used for OS . the rest of the 6GB can be used for less used assets.
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SSfox
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nikolino840
Member
Of course can be 13tf,even 16tf with 15tb of SSD,but how much Sony can invest and how much the final price?MS getting cocky gotta be awkward if tommy fisher was right haha
Nivek OnlyOn
Member
Phil will copy Cerny and announce 20GB ram.
Anyone can see this as a one more thing announcement.
Anyone can see this as a one more thing announcement.
Burrito Bandito
Banned
if the ps5 has 2ghz gpu clocks then theres no way their cpu is at 3.8. that must have been the compromise.
So it seems it must be Ps5>GPU advantage and Xbox>Cpu advantage.
Not sure if either has any headroom to adjust before launch though.
Either Bloomberg was wrong about sony targeting $400 BOM or Tommy Fishers PS5 info is compromised.
Not really sure why Sony is still holding out at this point
So it seems it must be Ps5>GPU advantage and Xbox>Cpu advantage.
Not sure if either has any headroom to adjust before launch though.
Either Bloomberg was wrong about sony targeting $400 BOM or Tommy Fishers PS5 info is compromised.
Not really sure why Sony is still holding out at this point
thelastword
Banned
So who was the most accurate on the XBOX specs....WelL Well...What do you know....
Hey, Hey.....Pours some champagne with Tommy Fisher, always believed that guy and publically said I believed in him....What else did he say ....?????
I believe in rewarding our best and very own prophets.....
Hey, Hey.....Pours some champagne with Tommy Fisher, always believed that guy and publically said I believed in him....What else did he say
....?????I believe in rewarding our best and very own prophets.....
llien
Member
If that would be the case, pragmatic game developer would simply develop targeting XSeX.
M-V2
Member
As a PS fan the SX is an amazing piece of hardware, MS did a great job at making it, whether if the ps5 is 11TF or 13TF the difference will be within 10% so people on both side need to calm down & be happy.
As for Tommy Fisher some people need to apologise for him, he gave an accurate specs for SX.
As for Tommy Fisher some people need to apologise for him, he gave an accurate specs for SX.
saintjules
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DaGwaphics
Member
Oh, that makes sense. So peak bandwidth would still be 500+ in that scenario.
Okay, that makes more sense than the way I was seeing it.
LED Guy?
Banned
Nope, the testing is 56 CUs, the console is 52 CUs, like what Tommy Fisher stated it to be.
So you’re telling me with the same logic that the PS5 is a 32 CU console? Stop it guys, you’re getting ridiculous at this point.....and funny
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LED Guy?
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SegaSnatcher
Member
That Tommy dude got that Xbox Series X number dead on, so not gonna be surprised if PS5 is close to his number.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Told u so lol
K.N.W.
Member
Did anyone comment on the 4.8 GB/s transer speed for compressed data?? I feel it's really misleading. The transfer speed is 2.4 GB/s, if the data are compressed you may transfer even more data than 4.8 GB/s, but that won't be the norm, compressions have variable rates that depend on which type of data is being processed, so we cannot expect it to always reach 4.8 GB/s. I feel like Microsoft really fooled many people today. Maybe they estimated that the lowest ratio is around 2, so the transfer speed would be AT LEAST 4.8 GB/s for compressed data. Otherwise, Microsoft just put out a meaningless number.
IkarugaDE
Member
He was banned after he sent a very shitty shopped photo of the DS4 to
Mod of War
and claimed it is a DS5.I would not automatically assume that everything is 100% legit with him. Naming the complete specs nearly down to the smallest detail and lying correctly is an achievement and actually shows that he knows something or knows someone who does. But the wrong pictures of the "DS5" remain questionable.
FranXico
Member
The decompression is done by hardware, so it isn't that misleading.
DaGwaphics
Member
The one thing that was notably different from what some people were saying about the XSX was the RT. Seems the hardware accelerated RT functionality is very similar to what Nvidia brought forward (which isn't surprising since MS had at least some hand in that design).
GameSeeker
Member
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Why are you writing your posts like CBOAT? I have heard about CBOAT in the past but Im not him. I am actually new aorund here. Things that are obscure Will gradually be known by the public. I'll let the Future events speak for themselves and I am confident they are on my behalf. But thanks...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Why are you writing your posts like CBOAT? I have heard about CBOAT in the past but Im not him. I am actually new aorund here. Things that are obscure Will gradually be known by the public. I'll let the Future events speak for themselves and I am confident they are on my behalf. But thanks...
Tommy absolutely nailed the Xbox Series X GPU specs. Not only did he get the CU and Clock speeds correct, he also clearly stated that Xbox Series X would be RDNA 2.0.
Whether he got the PS5 specs correct or not is still TBD. He may have had different sources for the Xbox and PS5 specs. His Xbox source was clearly spot on.
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Kumomeme
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already 553 now...either way thanks ! i hope everyone across the globe will make through this somehow!
Daniel_Mallorca1985
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Agnostic2020
Member
Why did MS think its a good idea to show capabilities of a 12 tf console by showing fucking Minecraft demo?lol
FERN
Member
sorry to all the insiders here but you all take a back seat to Tommy Fisher.
100% correct on XSX with no riddles.
the guy had balls
Top comment: "It never took my one x that long to load. Someone is lying lol"
DJ12
Member
Tommy Fisher also said EXACTLY 12.1 RDNA 2 tflops, did he not?
Someone un ban his ass.
STILL "our most powerful console...."
Enjoy the meltdown if this is what you think validates your choice of console.
FranXico
Member
He'll be back in May.Someone un ban his ass.
demigod
Member
I say we lift Tommy Fisher's ban
Mod of War
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Mod of War
.PS5
GPU-13.3TF RDNA2 + “secret sausage”
RTX Hardware + audio
CPU-3.7gh Zen 2
Memory-24gb (20gb DDR6+4Gb DDR4)
SSD 1tB/5gb+
Controller-haptic feedback, wireless charging, heart rate senzors
Webcam- something similar to Kinect
“You heard it here first!”
Calm down, is just a speculation
GPU-13.3TF RDNA2 + “secret sausage”
RTX Hardware + audio
CPU-3.7gh Zen 2
Memory-24gb (20gb DDR6+4Gb DDR4)
SSD 1tB/5gb+
Controller-haptic feedback, wireless charging, heart rate senzors
Webcam- something similar to Kinect
“You heard it here first!”
Calm down, is just a speculation
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