He must have a reason to get himself banned. I think we should let it play out until sony gives us some crumbs.Fisher did seem to nail them to the T, over anyone I take it?
Should his ban be lifted?
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Racer!
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Is it possible the 13.3tfs for the PS5 is based on GCN
NO!!
Agnostic2020
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Are you serious?Is it possible the 13.3tfs for the PS5 is based on GCN
Do you guys like this source as well?
If Sony doesn't win, they amass quite a few from other publications in addition to being nominated nearly every year at VGAs. While game of the year awards are not end all to be all, you love what you love, but Sony's studios are highly adored and are often well decorated for it.
Is it possible the 13.3tfs for the PS5 is based on GCN
I don’t think that GCN is on 7nm probably be more effort than just using RDNA
CuriousToe
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Did they? Can you send a link? All I can see is references to 'our most powerful'.
Agnostic2020
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So tommy said ps5 gpu is stronger than xsx but xsx cpu is stronger than ps5 .
Funny enough last month Phil Spencer said resolution (gpu ) is not that important anymore and FPS (CPU) is more important :
www.google.com
Would they ever say this if they had gpu advantage over their competitor? I doubt knowing MS
Funny enough last month Phil Spencer said resolution (gpu ) is not that important anymore and FPS (CPU) is more important :
Phil Spencer: Frame rate more important than resolution - MCV/DEVELOP
'1080p isn't some mythical, perfect resolution,' says Xbox boss
www.google.com
Would they ever say this if they had gpu advantage over their competitor? I doubt knowing MS
Agnostic2020
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rnlval
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Actually, XSX GPU has ~24.2 TFLOPS compute via FP16 rapid pack math and~ 13 TFLOPS equivalent for RT, hence total PR TFLOPS should be 37.2 TFLOPS.
TLZ
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Forget GCN. It just doesn't exist now. No one talks about it when we have RDNA 2 and Navi. That's a thing of the past now.Is it possible the 13.3tfs for the PS5 is based on GCN
gamerforever
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What i find interesting is microsoft letting journalists get to grips with the system so early. The modular design says to me that the console was rushed and this enabled them to change the internals at any time. It could also mean that the console can be upgraded by gamers by simply replacing a part internally. Never has this ever worked in the past, so will be interesting to see what they do. I must respect microsoft for pushing the boat out with the specs, because they are truly next gen and not a few years behind pc, which is usually the case.
Agnostic2020
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Or they want to launch earlier than sony if they can ? Like september rather than November?
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trancefreak64
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Wowa that's fucking awesome thanks.
gamerforever
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Its dreamcast all over again. People will wait for ps5.
I'll start drafting those legal documents for you right away....
Deeper Underground
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Do you guys like this source as well?
If Sony doesn't win, they amass quite a few from other publications in addition to being nominated nearly every year at VGAs. While game of the year awards are not end all to be all, you love what you love, but Sony's studios are highly adored and are often well decorated for it.
lol I’m sorry, but anyone trying to argue that Sony’s first party doesn’t bring the heat is a blind fanboy, point blank. What other first party stable has managed to win more GotY awards against mega multiplatforms more than Sony? You don’t have to like the games, but trying to say otherwise elicits a request you remove your head form your ass lol.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I honestly do not understand MS giving hands on events for a product that is not releasing until October at the earliest. Minimum 7 months away. They've blown they're load now they're just going to go from hard to semi to flaccid and uninterested come Holiday period.
Can you imagine Apple letting journos go hands on with iPhone 14 and then not releasing for another 8 months? Yeah, me neither.
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gamerforever
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An image of the box would be fine for now to build anticipation. I suspect series X will launch in September. That is when sony will push out their information and effectively make everyone wait for ps5, which will probably come out in march 2021 at 14tf. Sony has the best run any one has ever had in terms of exclusives. Not even nintendo has come close.
sendit
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Farrell55
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Good point
in fact phat ps3 was even bigger then xbox Sx
llien
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#poor
Lone Wolf
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I disagree with your last sentence.
Old Empire.
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Zero707
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there is a new navi2x card will have similar size to navi 10
Re: [情報] NV Ampere 普及RTX光追RTX3080/Ti獨享SLI
big Navi。 2020 Q4要發布 現在就應該要投料做評估了 等天宮端什麼菜才做反應 能做的很有限
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TLZ
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I was thinking this while watching the videos. If this is all ready now, why shouldn't they start selling in June? I'd love to get my hands on one so early!
Evilms
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Microsoft & AMD Supercharge Console Gaming with the Xbox Series X
I am excited to share some of the details that Microsoft announced today on Xbox® Series X, and how it is built upon the partnership with the team at AMD. Together, we have relentlessly pushed the innovation boundaries of gaming devices for the last 15 years. Today, AMD and Microsoft are...
The Xbox Series X is the biggest generational leap of SoC and API design that we’ve done with Microsoft, and it’s an honor for AMD to partner with Microsoft for this endeavor. The Xbox Series X is going to be a beacon of technical innovation leadership for this console generation and will propagate the innovation throughout the DirectX ecosystem this year and into next year. It is a privilege to be Microsoft’s trusted partner, and we look forward to a successful launch this holiday season!
Shambala
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Yea in the realm of tales from your ass probablyIs it possible the 13.3tfs for the PS5 is based on GCN
FeiRR
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Xbox hardware looks pretty impressive. I even think that the form factor is a good choice. If you can put it on the side as they claim, it might fit in more spaces. The problem is: with all that new, impressive technology, you can notice the total lack of new titles shown so far. Those new studios won't output anything for years maybe. They also have real problems with RT. If you watch the other video (not DF), you can see the guy walks around in the non-RT version of Minecraft and stops to switch to RT, then just moves a bit around. The framerate dips a lot. When he starts walking around, they edit it with the "tech preview" version provided by MS. Apart from RT, Minecraft should run on every toothbrush out there (and its their own game) so it's because of RT.
SaucyJack
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Or they've just been overtaken by events.
Doing a new console reveal at the height of a pandemic just makes you look like a dick. Microsoft could have a technical blow out through Digital Foundry because they had already revealed. There's no good way for Sony to do a reveal event right now.
We don't know exactly when Sony originally planned their reveal event, but it's a pretty safe bet that we won't see anything for 2 or 3 months now. Not until Covid-19 is dying down in the west.
But you know what, it doesn't really matter. June/July for a big bang full release (i.e. full spec + price + date + games) rather than a couple of months of drip feeding and building hype will still work. Summer is when they'll start needing to take preorders.
Focus right now has to be about securing the supply chain and production capacity. Fortunately things are already dying down in Asia which is a month or two ahead of the West in terms of impact of the virus.
ethomaz
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Continue reading...
Dr Strange
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Tommy Fisher is Phil Spencer! Believe it!
Agnostic2020
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Let it go man haha ps5 will be extremely close or higher than xsx :
Xbox continously says "out most powerful console "
Phil downplays gpu power in interview
Do you not know MS ? If they had power advantage dont you know they would be screaming it from the mountains ? With x1x they said most powerful console ever created before sony even announced ps4 pro.
Signs are there u guys just choose to ignore it .
Hawking Radiation
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You do know that concept cars are design studies for models right or as a test bed for future tech?
So in a sense concept cars have a purpose.
Some are created to gauge public opinion on future design trends.
You think car manufacturers spend MILLIONS of $$$ developing a concept car for the Lols?
This is probably the biggest LMFAO from me on this site yet.
Congrats for that brain dead response.
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Snake29
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I believe they are doing this, because the hardware is not that important anymore...so why keep it secret? The thing that will matters are the games and that part is where they lacking and thats what they want to keep secret for a while (i think). PSNow is getting better every month, so Sony is really catching up with new games now and that can definitely hurt Gamepass in the future. Gamepass is great and i sometimes use it on my pc, but it's not difficult for PlayStation to get exact same content as Gamepass (- Xbox exclusives). If PSNow receives more japans games, same third party, indies and their own first party titels after months, i think there is a change that PSNow can be a way better service.
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trancefreak64
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More like the whole enchilada. Whatever strategy Sony has to reveal the PS5, it really has been poorly executed. The Team with Jack Tretton, Shu, Andrew House, and Mark Cerny had their shit together in 2013.
This current regime with, Shuhei Yoshida and Jim Ryan seem out of touch with appeasing their millions of fans when it comes to Hardware. I don't know whom is calling the shots at Sony right now, but everything feels a lot different than 2013s announcement where we had a reveal already.
I like what Microsoft is doing at the moment. They have engineered an amazing console and they absolutely get what their fans want. That's what I want to see from Sony as well, because Microsoft has their shit together while Sony is still smug. They have showcased their goods to the fans and this is what the fans want. Where are you Sooony LOL
Zero707
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few posts above you i posted about PS5 will have 11.6TF and yeah that's close to 12TF..............
pasterpl
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I think that ms will start to show games around June (when e3 would have happened). Some of the studios they have acquired were working on something before they have joined ms, so not all projects will have to be started from scratch. We can expect new forza, forza horizon, halo and maybe some games from rare at launch, probably enhanced flight simulator as well (which is completely not my type of game). I am not sure if the new hellblade will be ready for launch.
Agnostic2020
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Agnostic2020
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Wtf ? U let go of your 9.2 tf believe system ? Haha u r a changed man today .congrats
Shio
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The reason i believe for the 25TF is that normal calculations are 32bit in it's 12TF mode, for RayTracing the calculations can be done in 16bit and thus 2 calculations can be done at once thus the 25TF number appears, it's called Rapid Packed Math i think and the PS Pro had it aswell. So it's not like it can operate in this mode for everything but only for select things, which in this case is RayTracing.
Agnostic2020
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Here is my take on github based on Sony patent on BC boost mode .
1)BC boost mode on ps4 pro:
Disables cu : 18 cu(ps4 cu) at 940 mhz (native clock of ps4 pro)
2)Bc boost mode on ps5 (github):
Disables cu: 36 cu (ps4 pro cu) at 2ghz (native clock of ps5)
vrs and RT and 16 CU were disabled for this test as they are not needed for boost mode BC regression test .
1)BC boost mode on ps4 pro:
Disables cu : 18 cu(ps4 cu) at 940 mhz (native clock of ps4 pro)
2)Bc boost mode on ps5 (github):
Disables cu: 36 cu (ps4 pro cu) at 2ghz (native clock of ps5)
vrs and RT and 16 CU were disabled for this test as they are not needed for boost mode BC regression test .
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MARTYWOLF
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Microsoft & AMD Supercharge Console Gaming with the Xbox Series X
I am excited to share some of the details that Microsoft announced today on Xbox® Series X, and how it is built upon the partnership with the team at AMD. Together, we have relentlessly pushed the innovation boundaries of gaming devices for the last 15 years. Today, AMD and Microsoft are...community.amd.com
The Xbox Series X is the biggest generational leap of SoC and API design that we’ve done with Microsoft, and it’s an honor for AMD to partner with Microsoft for this endeavor. The Xbox Series X is going to be a beacon of technical innovation leadership for this console generation and will propagate the innovation throughout the DirectX ecosystem this year and into next year. It is a privilege to be Microsoft’s trusted partner, and we look forward to a successful launch this holiday season!
They will likely release something similar for ps5 but I'm pumped for more info from both
But the raytracing is done by fixed function units and not by the shaders, theres no real relation to RPM.
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