trancefreak64
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DaGwaphics
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PLOT TWIST
Mark Cerny IS the PS5
That would probably be the only thing that would give MS a chance of winning next-gen.
Hi! Long time lurker here. I decided to register just to guess the TF of PS5. Playstation has been my main console ever since the first one and I'm going to buy PS5 at launch along with a brand new 4k tv.
Ok, here's my thoughts. I think the PS5 will be around 10-10,5 TF. This goes against the insiders here but it's my guess anyway. I think xbox will have the TF-advantage. Real world performance will be almost identical between them anyway.
That's my guess, maybe we will get answers tomorrow? I'm hyped and I think it will be a great gen!
Ok, here's my thoughts. I think the PS5 will be around 10-10,5 TF. This goes against the insiders here but it's my guess anyway. I think xbox will have the TF-advantage. Real world performance will be almost identical between them anyway.
That's my guess, maybe we will get answers tomorrow? I'm hyped and I think it will be a great gen!
I have a feeling they might use HZD to showcase the ps5. The way microsoft used Gears. Now that HZD is even coming to PC, they can do a comparison.
geordiemp
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I think they will show The last of us 2 at 4k60 with ray tracing.
That would work for me.
Koopatrol
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Bruh... bruh... BRUH. I did not expect to wake up to this. Holy fuck, I love Random Tuesday. Make this shit a holiday. LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Show me the goods Cerny.
Aye, don't leave without me!
Show me the goods Cerny.
Choo CHOO! Hype Train coming through.
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Venom Snake
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Fuck, I'm coming back from work and suddenly unexpected news happens!
They'd better show some proper demos with it, I'm not interested in Minecraft (even with path-tracing).
They'd better show some proper demos with it, I'm not interested in Minecraft (even with path-tracing).
GameSeeker
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Since Sony is about to reveal more details on PS5 tomorrow, I though it would be fun to look back at my two favorite PS5 rumors from the past few years. NOTE: These are my favorite rumors NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CORRECT, but rather they are both technically elegant. They show deep technical thinking beyond the normal FAKE rumor posted on Pastebin, Reddit, Twitter, etc.
First fun Technical Rumor:
Was posted on Pastebin Jun 28, 2019: https://pastebin.com/D9av648X
Ps5
12+tflop
8gb hmb2+16gb ddr4
Custom nitero silicon
1tb nand
This one is fun, because this is the only rumor I have seen that mentioned custom Nitero silicon. Forget the 12 TF and HBM2 parts, that is not new thinking and any random person could make it up. But what very few people could come up with is “custom Nitero silicon”. First, you need to understand who or what Nitero is. Then you need to understand why it might be useful for Sony to have it in a PS5. If you are curious, do some Googling for details. But the short answer is that Nitero was designing a 60GHz wireless solution that could be used for VR and was acquired by AMD in Apr. of 2017. If you are Sony working on a PSVR2, wouldn’t you want a wireless solution? Pastebin rumors are 99.99% fake, but at least this one is thoughtful on a technical level.
Second fun Technical Rumor:
This one was posted on Reddit in Apr. 2019. I can no longer find a link, but I’ll post the details.
PS5 memory and storage systems
The good news is that after tomorrow, we can stop looking at rumors and start discussing actual facts.
First fun Technical Rumor:
Was posted on Pastebin Jun 28, 2019: https://pastebin.com/D9av648X
Ps5
12+tflop
8gb hmb2+16gb ddr4
Custom nitero silicon
1tb nand
This one is fun, because this is the only rumor I have seen that mentioned custom Nitero silicon. Forget the 12 TF and HBM2 parts, that is not new thinking and any random person could make it up. But what very few people could come up with is “custom Nitero silicon”. First, you need to understand who or what Nitero is. Then you need to understand why it might be useful for Sony to have it in a PS5. If you are curious, do some Googling for details. But the short answer is that Nitero was designing a 60GHz wireless solution that could be used for VR and was acquired by AMD in Apr. of 2017. If you are Sony working on a PSVR2, wouldn’t you want a wireless solution? Pastebin rumors are 99.99% fake, but at least this one is thoughtful on a technical level.
Second fun Technical Rumor:
This one was posted on Reddit in Apr. 2019. I can no longer find a link, but I’ll post the details.
PS5 memory and storage systems
- 24 GB RAM in total (20 GB usable by games)
- 8 GB in form of 2 * 4-Hi stacks HBM2
- Sony got "amazing" deal for HBM
- in part due to them buying up bad chips from other customers which can't run higher then 1.6 Gbps while keeping 1.2v.
- HBM is expected to scale down in price a lot more than GDDR6 over the console lifetime
- Samsung, Micron and SK Hynix already shifting part of their capacity towards HBM due to falling NAND prices
- Sony will be one of the first high volume customers of TSMCs InFO_MS when mass production starts later this year (normal InFo already used by Apple in their iPhone)
- InFO_MS brings down the cost compared to traditional silicon interposers - has thermal and performance advantage as well
- InFO_MS allows them to drive their 1.6 Gbps chips @ 1.7 Gbps (435 GB/sec.) without having to increase the voltage above 1.2v
- HBM is more power efficient compared to GDDR6 - the savings were invested into more GPU power
- additional 16 GB in form of DDR4 @ 256 bit for 102.4 GB/sec.
- 4 GB reserved for OS, the remaining 12 GB usable by games
- memory automatically managed by HBCC and appears as 20 GB to the developers
- HBCC manages streaming of game data from storage as well
- developers can use the API to take control if they choose and manage the memory and storage streaming themselves
- memory solution alleviates problems found in PS4
- namely that CPU bandwidth reduces GPU bandwidth disproportionately
- 2 stacks of HBM have 512 banks (more banks = fewer conflicts and higher utilization)
- GDDR6 better than GDDR5 and GDDR5x in that regard but still less banks than HBM
- at the same time trying to keep CPU memory access to slower DDR4
- very satisfied with decision to use two kinds of memory for price to performance reasons
- allowed them to go below ~50 GFLOPs per GB/sec. bandwidth but still keep above 40 GFLOPs per GB/sec.
The good news is that after tomorrow, we can stop looking at rumors and start discussing actual facts.
Insane Metal
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Insane Metal
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BlacknGold_Blood
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I think you can’t discount this idea considering they literally announced their console reveal the day after MS‘s deep spec dive.
xacto
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Welcome to 2020. 2013 was way back.
FERN
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icerock
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Someone photoshop this Cernys face on top of Jared lol
Quite fitting, Shawn is at back end of the train
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DJ12
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Thanks for bearing with us during the great thirst. You have passed the time and given info that has certainly kept me interested. Hope to find you posting next time even though you said you wont. I hope after tomorrow you can talk some more about the games you've seen and also your article.
You mean like someone talking shit about misquoting when he knows full well that what the other poster was saying is correct?
Amazing to believe that he doesn't actually work for Sony considering they put the entire future of the brand in his hands with the ps4
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JLMC469
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I imagine it will be stronger in some areas and the Series X in others. I don’t expect a PS4 vs XBOX One situation.
splattered
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So Microsoft's plan to bait Sony out into the open was successful?
Phil: Just kidding guys! We're actually 14tf and 20GB of Ram!
I would like to see some of these back and forth from both camps haha
Phil: Just kidding guys! We're actually 14tf and 20GB of Ram!
I would like to see some of these back and forth from both camps haha
01011001
Banned
well technically the Xbox One was stronger in CPU performance...
so technically speaking the Xbox One and PS4 also were stronger in some areas compared to eachother lol
FERN
Member
Better that way, he can do things his way without Sony breathing down his neck or dictating orders.
JLMC469
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Yeah lol, I am reading my comment again and it’s extremely vague.
SegaSnatcher
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Sony ain't about to come out the day after Microsoft showed off their 12" wang just to show off their little 9 incher.
01011001
Banned
well many smaller stores will let you preorder way before the official preorders begin. you just need to have one that you trust to actually fulfill your preorder.
these store usually conservatively estimate how many systems they will get at launch and take that amount of preorders.
Mhmmm 2077
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I can't say that I'm excited, but I will be watching it for sure. After buying PS4 I decided to not get a PS5, since Yakuza series came to PC (that was my main reason for getting a PS4) and also I dislike Sony's censhorship in gaming. Though I believe that Microsoft will win next generation, though maybe not by numbers of units sold, but in general I feel like MS will make a comeback.
travisktl
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While I'd really like to believe that will happen, I'm pretty sure it's going to purely be Cerny going over all of the technical specs and features of the console and new controller.
xPikYx
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I subscribed to this but I haven't been emailed about it. I discovered about the reveal on here as usualWas an email sent to anyone? If not we can maybe see and not see what they will talk about??? So excite
FeiRR
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Technically speaking, the word "stronger" makes no sense in reference to electronic devices.
kyliethicc
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metareferential
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Well, last gen the 8gb gddr5 bomb was, well a bomb.
Spreewaldgurke
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Sooony you will be emailed
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JLMC469
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What about the “Jackhammer 3,000”?!?!
Deeper Underground
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Neo Blaster
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That newsletter is useless, looks like no one received an email about tomorrow.Was an email sent to anyone? If not we can maybe see and not see what they will talk about??? So excite
wintersouls
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Have you read this?
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