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[LiquidRex]

So who will be sending videos of your ears

So Microsoft can now market the XSX as the most Powerful console ever.

 

[Turk1993]

Bruh WTF, big fucking dissapointment. Not only for the hardware but the whole presentation itself, like they didn't show nothing. PS5 was gonna be my first next gen console this year but im gonna wait how its running and how it stacks up against Xbox. What a shame, really expected them to show atleast a demo of game with ray tracing.

 

[Mriverz]

Not even a full Tb in Ssd wtf?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I'm also positively shocked about the ability to push clocks all the way to 2.2ghz.

Yeah that really surprised me. RDNA2 must be a LOT more efficient with the thermals than I originally thought. Just hope PS5 has a super-good cooling system in place to handle it, don't need a RROD Part 2.

 

[HawarMiran]

even no word on the amount of RAM. he is basically like" we can do everything with PS5 but nothing at best, but still you can load a game in seconds" MAAAAANNNN WHO CAAAAARESSSSSS

16gb ddr6

 

[Mr Moose]

even no word on the amount of RAM. he is basically like" we can do everything with PS5 but nothing at best, but still you can load a game in seconds" MAAAAANNNN WHO CAAAAARESSSSSS

I thought he said 16GB GDDR6?

 

[Zzpaff]

we only have to duck our heads ... and cerny hang it 36 times a day from the balls ... today I'm going to dream about the 36 cu ... the shit storm is going to be curious

 

[Crimson_Fate]

For those saying $399, Bloomberg reminder

If sony thinks I am going to spend $ for this steaming pile they better take an "L" on the HW

 

[Gavin Stevens]

So soon after base model's launch, though? That seems really risky.

Honestly I think @VFXVeteran might've been right about two models, but MS might launch a cheaper Lockhart down the line and Sony a stronger PS5 Pro. I don't see MS doing an XSX Pro unless a PS5 Pro just completely laps the XSX.

Can see both PS5 Pro and Lockhart happening in 2022, but not 2021.

It’s the only way I can even make sense of any of this... I’m actually in shock. I was 99% confident in my source, but didn’t expect things to be THIS bad.

Right. Well. Any minute now the spin machine will start up. So I just want to say, thanks for the chats and stuff guys, it’s been fun, some of the time. I enjoyed most of it. Sometimes. But it’s been... emotional

 

[sonomamashine]

This better cost 399$/449$.

 

[Dodkrake]

So, from my understanding:

- Better memory pool
- Substantially better SSD (first party games)
- Custom SPU to do the heavy lifting on Audio
- Slower CPU when compared to XBSX
- Faster GPU, albeit with less CU's

What's interesting is all the shenaningans coprossessors that will do some CPU and GPU lifting.

At the end of the day, this is a console where first party games will shine, but third party will not be as good.

Also, interestingly:

The PS4 is 40% more powerful than the Xbox One
The Xbox One S is 42% more powerful than the PS4 Pro
The Xbox Series X is 16% more powerful than the PS5

Not a massive difference.

Frankly, 36CUs is a sensible, slightly above conservative, approach to things.

Makes me wonder what the pricing would be. Sony could surely go a bit lower than MS.

Source? I don't recall Cerny saying it.

He said it at the very beginning. 16GB GDDR6

 

[llien]

Frankly, 36CUs is a sensible, slightly above conservative, approach to things.

Makes me wonder what the pricing would be. Sony could surely go a bit lower than MS.

16gb ddr6

Source? I don't recall Cerny saying it.

 

[Tiago07]

My fear is the Ray Tracing

I don't know if in the RDNA2 the RT's Core is per CU

If is

Series X will have a huge advantage

 

[sinnergy]

Looks like Series X has also better ray tracing , wtf happend ?

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Bruh WTF, big fucking dissapointment. Not only for the hardware but the whole presentation itself, like they didn't show nothing. PS5 was gonna be my first next gen console this year but im gonna wait how its running and how it stacks up against Xbox. What a shame, really expected them to show atleast a demo of game with ray tracing.

Yesterday it was a literally said "only specs" a nothing else

 

[Moses85]

Sony acting like Microsoft 2013.. They will fail and fall hard! Arrogant Sony.

I am pissed

 

[xPikYx]

Bruh WTF, big fucking dissapointment. Not only for the hardware but the whole presentation itself, like they didn't show nothing. PS5 was gonna be my first next gen console this year but im gonna wait how its running and how it stacks up against Xbox. What a shame, really expected them to show atleast a demo of game with ray tracing.

Ray tracing? you can use you cannot, who cares, rasterization is ok.......................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

[semicool]

Console warring is moderated on both sides evenly. If there is anything egregious, report it. We can't see everything.

If I'm being honest, the moderation seems to be biased towards Sony fans. For one of many examples Tommy Fisher trolled and trolled on the Sony fandom side of things and wasn't moderated till his fake screenshot and was even brought back early. There were many, many other Sony fandom comments, posts that went unmoderated. Seemed skewed on that side if I'm being honest. Take that for what it's worth. Maybe my perception is inaccurate...but that's how I saw it.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

even no word on the amount of RAM. he is basically like" we can do everything with PS5 but nothing at best, but still you can load a game in seconds" MAAAAANNNN WHO CAAAAARESSSSSS

They did, actually. 16GB GDDR6, 256-bit bus. We just don't know the bandwidth but I'd assume it's 512 GB/s.

If I'm being honest, the moderation seems to be biased towards Sony fans. For one of many examples Tommy Fisher trolled and trolled on the Sony fandom side of things and wasn't moderated till his fake screenshot and was even brought back early. There were many, many other Sony fandom comments, posts that went unmoderated. Seemed skewed on that side if I'm being honest. Take that for what it's worth. Maybe my perception is inaccurate...but that's how I saw it.

Speaking of Tommy, guess he might've been a MS insider type of guy...or he just lucked out on the guess and convinced everyone they were an insider.

 

[kareemna]

Who is going to say it is RDNA 1.0, 1.5, 1.9?

 

[Gediminas]

No it is not huge. But that is just my opinion tho

unless PS5 is 399 and xbox sx is 599, they went cheap, instead of pushing the envelope, they went cheap after all that talk that it is a premium console. sony always pushed the boundaries and now? cheap.

 

[Gamernyc78]

So, from my understanding:

- Better memory pool
- Substantially better SSD (first party games)
- Custom SPU to do the heavy lifting on Audio
- Slower CPU when compared to XBSX
- Faster GPU, albeit with less CU's

What's interesting is all the shenaningans coprossessors that will do some CPU and GPU lifting.

At the end of the day, this is a console where first party games will shine, but third party will not be as good.

Also, interestingly:

The PS4 is 40% more powerful than the Xbox One
The Xbox One S is 42% more powerful than the PS4 Pro
The Xbox Series X is 16% more powerful than the PS5

Not a massive difference.



He said it at the very beginning. 16GB GDDR6

Not the Xbox s you mean Xbox x

 

[KormaChameleon]

How times have turned!

 

[HawarMiran]

Frankly, 36CUs is a sensible, slightly above conservative, approach to things.

Makes me wonder what the pricing would be. Sony could surely go a bit lower than MS.


Source? I don't recall Cerny saying it.

He said 16ggb ddr6 is enough when he talked about the ssd. So i guess that is kind of a confirmation

 

[Mr Moose]

TF number is fine, SSD sounds really nice, the variable GPU clocks shit sounds terrible.

 

[xPikYx]

16gb ddr6

Sorry, I was so pissed and bored that I completely missed, but apparently as all the rest, I missed nothing

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I thought the V would be higher overall.

I am not overly let down until I see pricing.

 

[jon3sy9]

They did, actually. 16GB GDDR6, 256-bit bus. We just don't know the bandwidth but I'd assume it's 512 GB/s.

448GB/s from eurogamer article

 

[Sejanus]

I told many people on here to not dismiss 100% true data...

and I got mocked for it, like many others.

btw. 10TF is still good, which I also said multiple times. the differences won't be dramatic in real world examples.
I'm just worried that they even clocked higher than the github tests which I didn't expect. I expected 2 additional active CUs to get to 10TF

the heat will be a real issue

You were right
Arrogant sony
Bad apu design (short-sighted)
Probably same tdp as arden
Only if is 399$ and for second console

 

[xPikYx]

This better cost 399$/449$.

This better cost 199$, it's not worth more than that

 

[PaeronSoda]

even no word on the amount of RAM. he is basically like" we can do everything with PS5 but nothing at best, but still you can load a game in seconds" MAAAAANNNN WHO CAAAAARESSSSSS

16GB my dude.

 

[zubairali2]

i cant believe how many are like "XBOX HAS MORE TFLOPS TIME TO BECOME A XBOX FAN"

what a joke

 

[Audiophile]

A 5GB ssd doesnt load much faster than a 2.5 in real life.

..on a PC.

 

[IllegalLemon]

Good post and the PS5 runs at higher frequency which makes the actual difference even smaller than 16%,
but sadly I think your post will go under in the wave of trolls and console war fanboys screaming about being disappointed about things they have no understanding of but just want to provoke people.

Let them. I'm gonna have a lot of fun with them. 10-15% extra gpu perf isn't enough to give someone a massive boost in visual fidelity and performance and sadly some in here have trouble understanding that. A few extra frames, maybe 5-7 and you just sacrificed almost 10% of your gpu advantage, switch foliage density up a bit(because lighting and ambient occlusion wouldn't fit in the remainder) and there goes the other 5-6%. But I'm assuming that the more wild and rabid fanboys will be screaming the phrase 'Sony PS5 is a failure' from the rooftops with the highest resonance possible until their vocal cords explode, ignoring the fact that the compute advantage of ones gpu will make changes that are so unnoticeable that you'll need a magnifying glass or telescopic vision to be able to perceive the difference. I'll let them have their meltdowns, I'll probably enjoy it too!!!

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Mod of War

Really didn't even think that mine previous created thread would be a low effort click bait and console warring thread. How so?

 

[Dargor]

Yeah, maybe game developers are hyped for this. I know I ain't.

 

[kittoo]

So does the PS5 have dedicated ray-tracing hardware or not?
Didnt seem like it has. The talk seemed as if Cerny was saying that they will use GPU only for it, although in some unique ways and what not. Will be a huge bummer if not.

 

[Sejanus]

You were right
Arrogant sony
Bad apu design (short-sighted)
Probably same tdp as arden
Only if is 399$ and for second console

And if you want to put the same avatar as you, tell me and I put it instantly.

 

[husomc]

I'm just sitting here laughing to myself as Cerny drones on about 3d audio

 

[Metroiddarks]

Only 36 Cus what year is this ? You just increment the CU speed because cheaper not because is better also after that Cernys explanation....

 

[HawarMiran]

TF number is fine, SSD sounds really nice, the variable GPU clocks shit sounds terrible.

On the bright side they safe a lot on the gpu right? So we have a cheaper console. 400 maybe? And if it works with the variable clocks i have no problem.

 

[Gamernyc78]

i cant believe how many are like "XBOX HAS MORE TFLOPS TIME TO BECOME A XBOX FAN"

what a joke

Sony will slay this holiday season

 

[llien]

The Xbox Series X is 16% more powerful than the PS5

Uh, how did you get the 16% figure?
XSeX GPU is 20% faster. (that 10Tf something isn't even sustained)
CPU is also faster.
SSD is a more than two times slower.

Arrogant Sony.

I'm from team "low TFs".
There is nothing arrogant whatsoever about 36CUs.

 

[Fenris Wolf]

Is it true that the console is 9.2Tf but with smart shift or something called smart it reaches to 10tf?

 

[OsirisBlack]

Let the Shit show begin. I won't duck throw your cabbage and tomatoes.

 

[pasterpl]

Does any one know what are the prices of these Uber fast ssd? I think that price will be same for ps5 and xbsex with this ssd driving the cost up for ps5

 

[On Demand]

So can we ban all these fake ass insiders now?

 

[xPikYx]

If I were a console player, I would save my money for the xbox and that's it, for sure I don't spend 1000$ for having both and swith on ps5 once a year at best

 

[vpance]

Actual biggest surprise of the day, SonGoku is still alive. lol

 

[Chromata]

That was an interesting and informative talk. Plenty to be excited about.

I wonder how the difference in CU's and clock speeds will affect multiplats. I'd like to see the 3D audio and SSD tech in action.