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[CJY]

You don't care because the advantage you thought you had to argue with is bit by bit escaping you.

No, I don't care because every single person whose opinion I care about says the PS5's SSD is lightyears ahead of what's in the XSX and I'm kinda bored by the whole thing. Sometimes winning all the time is tiring.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

No, I don't care because because every single person whose opinion I care about says the PS5's SSD is lightyears ahead of what's in the XSX and I'm kinda bored by the whole thing. Sometimes winning all the time is tiring.

i.e. Sony affiliates

Thanks for that.

 

[Kazekage1981]

Don't @ me with rubbish mang. I don't care about XSX SSD solution, it's rubbish and thrown-together in a slap-dash manner. Good marketing though, I give them that.

Good thing you warned me and the rest of neogaf, and Microsoft will definitely not get my money. Its like Microsoft engineers are clowns because of your opinion and feelings.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Good thing you warned me and the rest of neogaf, and Microsoft will definitely not get my money. Its like Microsoft engineers are clowns because of your opinion and feelings.

They're breaking.

 

[CJY]

They're breaking.

Ain't nothing breaking except for your heart.

 

[phil_t98]

Because it's a game changer and can enable game design out of reach for Xbox.

Xbox - most powerful by 18%
PS5 - faster data processing by 125%

Let those percentages sink in.

Hi exactly can it have games out of reach of Xbox? Tell me exactly how it can

 

[AntonioBanderasXsX]

Embarrassing, look at the nxgamer thread on the other site they are dragging DigitalFoundary through mud lol

 

[CJY]

Embarrassing, look at the nxgamer thread on the other site they are dragging DigitalFoundary through mud lol

I love DF, but I feel that they are becoming increasingly less impartial and acting more as corporate mouthpieces as opposed to expressing their true opinions. Their content is still good and well produced though, so I will continue to watch, but I value independent voice infinitely more.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Embarrassing, look at the nxgamer thread on the other site they are dragging DigitalFoundary through mud lol

They're collectively losing their minds (much like here) to convince themselves of a reality they want rather than the one which has presented itself.

 

[-Arcadia-]

While PS5’s SSD and dedicated hardware are very cool and fascinating...

The shift to an insane amount of SSD posts from people who formerly could not talk about anything other than GPUs and Teraflops, overnight, is a bit interesting, lol.

You can clearly see that the talking points have been frantically altered.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

While PS5’s SSD and dedicated hardware are very cool and fascinating...

The shift to an insane amount of SSD posts from people who formerly could not talk about anything other than GPUs and Teraflops, overnight, is a bit fascinating, lol.

You can clearly see that the talking points have been frantically altered.

It makes you wonder what they would do if that fallback layer didn't exist lol.

 

[ethomaz]

They're collectively losing their minds (much like here) to convince themselves of a reality they want rather than the one which has presented itself.

You are really somebody else out of reality.

 

[LittleBigGamer]

Its the first time consoles make this kind of step forward. So interest is legit.
It just happens ps5 to have a better SSD.
SSD is good for both consoles.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Its the first time consoles make this kind of step forward. So interest is legit.
It just happens ps5 to have a better SSD.
SSD is good for both consoles.

I don't think the interest is legit in the way you think it is, it wasn't so interesting when people thought the PS5 was 13 teraflops.

 

[-Arcadia-]

It makes you wonder what they would do if that fallback layer didn't exist lol.

Probably secret sauce, or some such asinine thing. This gen’s equivalent of ‘Power of the Cloud’.

Brand warriors don’t stop, ever, until the truth has been hammered into them by reality, over a long period of time.

The insecurity is a bit insane, imo. I’m looking forward to the PS5, and finding out more of Sony’s strategy with it (possible cheaper price?). I’m looking forward to Series X going all out. It feels like a cool time in gaming right now.

 

[cryptoadam]

Until the thing drops and we see games this is just like MS talking about the cloud and how Crackdown will be amazing.

Sony can talk talk talk all they want but its up to the devs to produce the games and the tech to actually produce.

Been a sony player for 2 gens now. I am not buying next gen because I don't game much and don't see the value in spending 400-700 (CAD) on a system. Especially since there will be pro versions in 2 years and price drops.

 

[FStubbs]

So Sony has a very good SSD. Sure, I get how that will make games load super fast, but I'm not sure exactly how that makes PS5 as powerful (or as some are trying to claim, far MORE powerful) than the Series X given everything else is NOT equal, or the fact that the SSD isn't some miracle space age unit that is faster and has more bandwidth than GDDR6 or something.

Plus, it's 825 GB. With the size of these games, that SSD will fill up very quickly if it's needed for every game to access this power.

 

[ethomaz]

I don't think the interest is legit in the way you think it is, it wasn't so interesting when people thought the PS5 was 13 teraflops.

Welcome to the DynamiteCop! virtual reality where the interest in PS5 is not legit

 

[-Arcadia-]

Welcome to the DynamiteCop! virtual reality where the interest in PS5 is not legit

Sure. Did he say that, though?

Its the first time consoles make this kind of step forward. So interest is legit.
It just happens ps5 to have a better SSD.
SSD is good for both consoles.

In direct response to that post:

I don't think the interest is legit in the way you think it is, it wasn't so interesting when people thought the PS5 was 13 teraflops.

He’s clearly referring to the SSD. Conversational context is important, whether you missed it, or intentionally ignored it to console war.

 

[ethomaz]

Sure. Did he say that, though?



In direct response to that post:



He’s clearly referring to the SSD. Conversational context is important, whether you missed it, or intentionally ignored it to console war.

Yes he directly said it.
Thanks to prove it.

The interest in PS5 is legit.
He said it is not.

You really need to be in another reality to say some bullshit.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Sure. Did he say that, though?



In direct response to that post:



He’s clearly referring to the SSD. Conversational context is important, whether you missed it, or intentionally ignored it to console war.

Removing the source of interest is removing the context, it's not console warring, it's explanation, it's reason, it's a goalpost shift because something didn't pan out and it's fundamentally clear.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Everyone needs to reread that post. I’m defending Dynamite, and I think everyone got their wires crossed. : P

Edit: DynamiteCop! ethomaz

 

[sendit]

This is a pretty good read for those that don't think this is all fluff:

GPUDirect Storage: A Direct Path Between Storage and GPU Memory | NVIDIA Technical Blog

As AI and HPC datasets continue to increase in size, the time spent loading data for a given application begins to place a strain on the total application’s performance. When considering end-to-end…

devblogs.nvidia.com

I've been wondering how PCs won't gimp next gen game design going forward.

 

[Mr.Allan]

But ps5 has 5.5GB SSD and Xbox SX has only laptop 5400RPM HDD

Lies. DVD HD, hdd is optional. USB 1.1 as optional recommended storage.

 

[ethomaz]

Everyone needs to reread that post. I’m defending Dynamite, and I think everyone got their wires crossed. : P

Edit: DynamiteCop! ethomaz

That is fine but it doesn’t change what he said at all.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Everyone needs to reread that post. I’m defending Dynamite, and I think everyone got their wires crossed. : P

Edit: DynamiteCop! ethomaz

Oh gotcha, I didn't realize it was an interlooped response.

 

[LittleBigGamer]

I don't think the interest is legit in the way you think it is, it wasn't so interesting when people thought the PS5 was 13 teraflops.

I don't know about people. Devs were interested in SSD before and after the reveal of flops.

 

[SonGoku]

As someone who shitted on SSD (let alone nvme) early on (you can check my post history) I thought it was a stupid waste of budget that could otherwise go towards the GPU or more RAM
It was only after the wired interview that people started discussing the potential benefits that go beyond loading times, Cerny latest deep dive explanation and devs chiming was a big factor as well to appreciate the SSD and how it will affect game design.

O onQ123 redeemed, the only one who was in the SSD for consoles hype train before it was cool

 

[Deleted member 740922]

PS5:

XsX:

Stadia:

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

It's all they have left since Xbox is better in every other way.

Actually no if we compare the split ram of XSX vs the unified ram of the ps5.

 

[lingpanda]

Xbox One had the power of the cloud at launch. PS5 now has the power of the SSD at launch.

 

[Enigmagamer]

I guarantee you if the PS5 would have more Tflops no one here would talk about the bandwith difference of both consoles ssd's.

So true bro fanboys make me sick everybody just wants to enjoy new experiences on their console of choice or be part of my gang #ownallconsolesgang#

 

[Silver Wattle]

As someone who shitted on SSD (let alone nvme) early on (you can check my post history) I thought it was a stupid waste of budget that could otherwise go towards the GPU or more RAM
It was only after the wired interview that people started discussing the potential benefits that go beyond loading times, Cerny latest deep dive explanation and devs chiming was a big factor as well to appreciate the SSD and how it will affect game design.

O onQ123 redeemed, the only one who was in the SSD for consoles hype train before it was cool

Anyone that saw the Spiderman loading demo was hyped for SSD's, don't act like onq was a prophet.

 

[SonGoku]

Anyone that saw the Spiderman loading demo was hyped for SSD's, don't act like onq was a prophet.

Im talking from way before that lol

 

[onQ123]

Anyone that saw the Spiderman loading demo was hyped for SSD's, don't act like onq was a prophet.

check the dates
Jan 23, 2019

Rumor: Next Xbox To Feature Ray Tracing, 1TB NVMe SSD Storage; DevKit To Release After GDC 2019

I said before that MS' low end cheap console next gen will give them an advantage next gen. If Sony doesn't have multiple console releases next gen, then I believe sales figures will be a lot closer next gen. What sony need to do is just either rebrand a smaller PS4 Pro as PS5 lite for the...

www.neogaf.com

If you care this much about having over 16GB of GDDR6 Ram why are you not excited about the thought of having 1TB of NVMe? To me this is one of the best things that could happen Next Gen , you see it as storage I see it as a big pool of Ram

Jan 29, 2019

https://neogaf.com/threads/possible-ps5-leak-info.1467805/page-26#post-253752797



04.16.2019

Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation

Don't expect it anytime in 2019, but the next PlayStation console is well on its way—and it's packing ray-tracing support and a loadtime-killing solid-state hard drive.

www.wired.com

 

[DntMesArnd]

Sony's SSD is going to revolutionize gaming. It is going to do for this generation what the power of the cloud did for the the current gen

 

[base]

SSD? Been using since around 2010. It has changed my life.

 

[Entroyp]

If you actually pay attention there’s a lot to be excited about Sony’s implementation of its SSD. There’s nothing vanilla about it.

 

[Entroyp]

Xbox One had the power of the cloud at launch. PS5 now has the power of the SSD at launch.

What happened with power of the cloud? I don’t remember Its effect on launch games (or any games at all)

 

[LittleBigGamer]

SSD? Been using since around 2010. It has changed my life.

You have been using SSD since 2010 for better loading times. 2020 is the year you will see for the first time games been developed through an SSD.

 

[TLZ]

but is it worth the noise creating so many threads talking about how PS5 SSD gonna change gaming when Xbox Series X has also an SSD ?

And you went and created yet another thread about SSD.

I think you're obsessed

 

[Windows-PC]

Actually no if we compare the split ram of XSX vs the unified ram of the ps5.

The split RAM configuration in the XBox Series X is absolutely no problem, and because of the faster 10GB RAM which will be used only for games, the XBox Series X still has the advantage there too

 

[LittleBigGamer]

I don't think the interest is legit in the way you think it is, it wasn't so interesting when people thought the PS5 was 13 teraflops.

Then there was hundreds of dev tweets, articles, analysis that altered the discussion to an other direction. People just follow the trend. Devs know better than us I suppose.

 

[sonomamashine]

And you went and created yet another thread about SSD.

I think you're obsessed

Crazy how things change & taken out of context when you quote 2 specific lines.

I remember when CPU & GPU where the main subject of interest, don't get me wrong SSD is important in gaming, but is it worth the noise creating so many threads talking about how PS5 SSD gonna change gaming when Xbox Series X has also an SSD ?
This thread is more like to show some people that fanboyism do blind your judgement.

One console is more powerful than the other, so what ?
let's all agree that Both consoles are powerful enough to enjoy next gen games.
STOP IT !

Now i do remember the barking at the next gen thread was all about GPU & TERAFLOPS, what happened ?
Shifted to SSD real quick , go back support your boys they need you.

 

[onQ123]

The split RAM configuration in the XBox Series X is absolutely no problem, and because of the faster 10GB RAM which will be used only for games, the XBox Series X still has the advantage there too

Will it really?



If Johnny 1 can slice up 5 apples per second & his mom take 60 seconds to give him 200 apples while Johnny 2 can slice up 4 apples per second & his mom give him 400 apples in 60 seconds which Johnny can slice the most apples in 1 hour?

 

[FStubbs]

Will it really?



If Johnny 1 can slice up 5 apples per second & his mom take 60 seconds to give him 200 apples while Johnny 2 can slice up 4 apples per second & his mom give him 400 apples in 60 seconds which Johnny can slice the most apples in 1 hour?

That depends. Can Johnny 2 keep at that same rate for the entire hour? Also, which mom has the bigger bag and how often do they have to reload the bag? How sharp is the knife? (Johnny 1 has a sharper knife than Johnny 2).

 

[Windows-PC]

Will it really?



If Johnny 1 can slice up 5 apples per second & his mom take 60 seconds to give him 200 apples while Johnny 2 can slice up 4 apples per second & his mom give him 400 apples in 60 seconds which Johnny can slice the most apples in 1 hour?

Are you okay?

 

[onQ123]

Are you okay?

lol

 

[JustP_Gaming]

Because it's a game changer and can enable game design out of reach for Xbox.

Xbox - most powerful by 18%
PS5 - faster data processing by 125%

Let those percentages sink in.

52cu vs 36cu let that sink in.

 

[DForce]

The interest was always there, it's just that we didn't know how fast the SSD was.

After Cerny's presentation, Dev tweets, Digital Foundry videos etc. it became clear that SSD can do more than increase load times.

There's only a small jump in memory.

The biggest jump from this gen to next get is store speed and CPU performance.