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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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Sakura

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edit: not surprising considering people like me, friends, my dad etc all likely got it, never consulted doctor, hospital, etc. canada currently at 1% only at confirmed cases which is biased towards severe cases - likely death rate much lower I think. it still has a strong age bias and high infection rate could still lead to surge at hospitals without isolation measures but I think in time we will see there is a "wartime" hysteria aspect to this that in retrospect will lead to different plans for the next pandemic
These death rates assume that everybody infected is able to get proper treatment though. I would be surprised, for example, if Italy's death rate when everything is over was only 0.6%
 

Jtibh

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So gaf.
Tell me your daily routine .
How do you keep yourself and your home virus free.
You take you vitamins you wipe your door knobs wash your clothes?
Lets learn from eachother.
 

betrayal

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It's really starting to feel like all of our efforts are having an effect.
Just need to hope we don't get complacent when things start opening back up. Beautiful weather after a long period of being locked down sounds like a recipe for trouble though.

I totally agree. Currently there are some positive developments every day and I think that this is just the beginning. Some countries (US, ...) are still a bit behind, but that is only a matter of time.
It will be quite interesting to see how the individual countries will proceed when the lockdown is gradually relaxed. I really hope that at least a mouthguard will become mandatory when you leave your house and that people will use all their brain cells when they get more freedom again.
 
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#Phonepunk#

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so i had a dentist's appointment this morning at 7am. i may have cancelled but it was to install a crown and my temp had broken off last week, so this was urgent.

showed up to the door, it was locked, i knocked, the receptionist let me in. they were only letting 1 person in at a time. while i was waiting they came and took my temperature to make sure i didn't have a fever. also someone was scrubbing the floors.

it went well, and the workers were all very nice, saying "thank you for going through with this", i got the sense they had a lot of cancellations. the person who installed my crown kept talking about her rent. we made a cleaning appointment for June 4th so hopefully this all blows over by then...
 
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Jesus... in addition to their travel bans of foreigners who had been to specific countries, it looks like Japan is going to start ordering *all* people who enter the country, regardless of citizenship, to self-quarantine for 14 days before moving about within the country.

They just had their first single day with over 200 confirmed new cases.
 
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cryptoadam

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Maybe it was March 6th and now it’s under control now March 31st?

So Cuomo should tell us what he found out? He was pretty sure people were stealing things so who was the thief?

If 20 days ago it was a big problem and now its not then Cuomo should tell us who the thiefs were.

Cuomo complains people are stealing. Trump goes on TV and tells people stop stealing were all in this together there is enough supplies to go around. Sounds like Trump was doing Cuomo a solid and putting people in their place. Now Trump is the big meanie and Cuomo can play the good guy defending his hospitals, even though less than 3 weeks ago he was accusing the same hospitals of being thieves.

Thats Trumps sword to fall on, he has to be the bad guy because the media will always take the opposite position he does. Its insane. Call it the Wuhan/Chinese virus. Trump calls it that then its racist. Says its just the flu, Trump says that all of a sudden he is denying the crisis. Cuomo says people are stealing, Trump says it and now he is a bad guy. The media thinks they are the CCP and they can memory hole everything like its Ti amen Square
 

Sakura

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Jesus... in addition to their travel bans of foreigners who had been to specific countries, it looks like Japan is going to start ordering *all* people who enter the country, regardless of citizenship, to self-quarantine for 14 days before moving about within the country.

They just had their first single day with over 200 confirmed new cases.
Kinda late to be doing that now to be honest.
 

holygeesus

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I've got a flight with American due in September. Initially they cancelled it, yet after I applied for a refund, they insisted the flight would actually now be going ahead, under a different flight number. Totally shady move to avoid mass refunds in the short term. Fuck them.
 
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All Hail C-Webb

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So Cuomo should tell us what he found out? He was pretty sure people were stealing things so who was the thief?

If 20 days ago it was a big problem and now its not then Cuomo should tell us who the thiefs were.

Cuomo complains people are stealing. Trump goes on TV and tells people stop stealing were all in this together there is enough supplies to go around. Sounds like Trump was doing Cuomo a solid and putting people in their place. Now Trump is the big meanie and Cuomo can play the good guy defending his hospitals, even though less than 3 weeks ago he was accusing the same hospitals of being thieves.

Thats Trumps sword to fall on, he has to be the bad guy because the media will always take the opposite position he does. Its insane. Call it the Wuhan/Chinese virus. Trump calls it that then its racist. Says its just the flu, Trump says that all of a sudden he is denying the crisis. Cuomo says people are stealing, Trump says it and now he is a bad guy. The media thinks they are the CCP and they can memory hole everything like its Ti amen Square

A month ago it was patient's and other small time thieves stealing a few masks from offices and supply closets.
Trump is saying that he doesn't understand how you go from needing 10,000 masks to needing 300,000, and then insinuating that tens of thousands are being stolen and resold. The first half of his premise is wrong, so the 2nd part isn't even a thing. It's very clear how you go from needing 10,000 masks to 300,000, it's just the situation we're in.

Trump will drop this point in the coming days like he has with other bad points (I think this is a good thing, a sign of him evolving with the times), there's no need to try and defend him on something so obviously wrong.
 

darkestdame

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Honestly, New York gets what it deserves. If Cuomo is so focused on taking it to trump at the expense to his own people, with his people supporting him, I say “good”. If they all wanna actually die on this hill, let em. Stop sending aid to them altogether and hang them to dry. We need a population check anyway and New Yorkers breed like rabbits.
yikes
 

Jooxed

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Honestly, New York gets what it deserves. If Cuomo is so focused on taking it to trump at the expense to his own people, with his people supporting him, I say “good”. If they all wanna actually die on this hill, let em. Stop sending aid to them altogether and hang them to dry. We need a population check anyway and New Yorkers breed like rabbits.

Damn, you know we have some new yorkers on this forum right? This ain't it chief. Including my hometown.

triplestation triplestation What do you think man?
 
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GHG

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Jesus... in addition to their travel bans of foreigners who had been to specific countries, it looks like Japan is going to start ordering *all* people who enter the country, regardless of citizenship, to self-quarantine for 14 days before moving about within the country.

They just had their first single day with over 200 confirmed new cases.

Yeh the travel industry is gonna be fucked for a while because of this.

I don't see things getting back to "normal" until at least Q4 of this year.
 

cryptoadam

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A month ago it was patient's and other small time thieves stealing a few masks from offices and supply closets.
Trump is saying that he doesn't understand how you go from needing 10,000 masks to needing 300,000, and then insinuating that tens of thousands are being stolen and resold. The first half of his premise is wrong, so the 2nd part isn't even a thing. It's very clear how you go from needing 10,000 masks to 300,000, it's just the situation we're in.

Trump will drop this point in the coming days like he has with other bad points (I think this is a good thing, a sign of him evolving with the times), there's no need to try and defend him on something so obviously wrong.

here is Cuomo's quote

“Not just people taking a couple or three, I mean just actual thefts of those products,” Cuomo said at a press conference from the state capital in Albany. “I’ve asked the state police to do an investigation, look at places that are selling masks, medical equipment, protective wear, feeding the anxiety.”

Doesn't seem like small thieves to me, and he got the STATE police to look into. So no its not some small guy stealing one mask, Cuomo is clear on that.

Cuomo was complaining, got the cops involved, the STATE police not your local precint. So Trump says he stop it guys stop hoarding this isn't TP were in this together but Trumps the bad guy LOL.

did you blast Cuomo for his quote? I doubt it.
 

All Hail C-Webb

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Musk is awesome, and what he's doing here is great.
But, he already had an example of why waiting till the last minute can be bad. He had shipments held up earlier, and that can happen again (especially if going international)

He obviously can say and do as he pleases, and it's still an awesome thing, but it's going to create more room for conspiracy theories.
 

People from all over Canada go on Spring break, the numbers in Ontario and the West Coast don't line up with what the rest of the world has been reporting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Canada#Data

Every other major country has shown their numbers increase daily yet in places like Ontario we went 59, 48, 78, 85, 100, 170, 135, 151 over the course of a single week. It's only been over the past few days the numbers look real. Given with what has been said about how they aren't testing everyone (only if you are showing severe symptoms or if you are at risk) I think we're under reporting what's going on here. Maybe there is an explanation but when it doesn't line up with the rest of the world it really looks suspicious.
 
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Kinda late to be doing that now to be honest.

Late, but not meaningless, I suppose. They are seeing an increase in community spread, so stemming off the flow of new cases from abroad should help somewhat at least.
 

All Hail C-Webb

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here is Cuomo's quote

“Not just people taking a couple or three, I mean just actual thefts of those products,” Cuomo said at a press conference from the state capital in Albany. “I’ve asked the state police to do an investigation, look at places that are selling masks, medical equipment, protective wear, feeding the anxiety.”

Doesn't seem like small thieves to me, and he got the STATE police to look into. So no its not some small guy stealing one mask, Cuomo is clear on that.

Cuomo was complaining, got the cops involved, the STATE police not your local precint. So Trump says he stop it guys stop hoarding this isn't TP were in this together but Trumps the bad guy LOL.

did you blast Cuomo for his quote? I doubt it.

There's a big difference between 1-3 and tens of thousands.
Cuomo said some masks were stolen and involved the police.
Trump made it sound like hospitals were asking for way more masks than was needed, then redirecting them, and told the people and reporters to investigate.

I think that Trump's comments were irresponsible, but based on a lack of information. I think that he'll correct it in the coming days. That's not exactly blasting him. Seeing Trump change his stance as the situation has evolved has been a highlight for me. I didn't think he was capable of it, and he's shown alot, but that's for the politics section.
 

DeepEnigma

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cryptoadam

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There's a big difference between 1-3 and tens of thousands.
Cuomo said some masks were stolen and involved the police.
Trump made it sound like hospitals were asking for way more masks than was needed, then redirecting them, and told the people and reporters to investigate.

I think that Trump's comments were irresponsible, but based on a lack of information. I think that he'll correct it in the coming days. That's not exactly blasting him. Seeing Trump change his stance as the situation has evolved has been a highlight for me. I didn't think he was capable of it, and he's shown alot, but that's for the politics section.

Cuomo specifically says and I quote "“Not just people taking a couple or three,". So no Cuomo was not talking about 1-3. He could very well have been talking about thousands, he was pretty serious about it.

He basically said to anyone hoarding masks or over ordering that their onto them and to stop it. Clearly Cuomo's comments didn't change anyone's actions in NY if the supplier was still saying its a problem. Hopefully now hoarders and thieves get the message.

But ya stealing masks is bad when Cuomo says it, but when Trump says it now stealing masks is not an issue LOL.
 

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I’ve been wondering who’s been driving around the neighborhood blasting the Stars and Stripes over a loudspeaker.

Turns out it’s a school bus
 
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Deleted member 17706

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Sound like communism to me.

I mean... giving interviews to the media about your work without permission is grounds for firing just about anywhere, but holy shit the optics are better considering the situation.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Florida is such a ridiculous state

Florida is a UCR state that also has a statute that all crimes are to be reported and can be made into news.

Most other states do not have this, and can keep their arrests and reports quiet from the media. Crazies are everywhere, just Florida has a law to tell you about them.

 
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GHG

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Florida is a UCR state that also has a statute that all crimes are to be reported and can be made into news.

Most other states do not have this, and can keep their arrests and reports quiet from the media. Crazies are everywhere, just Florida has a law to tell you about them.

Had no idea about this, always wondered why you always see these wild stories coming out of Florida and now I know why!
 

DeepEnigma

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Had no idea about this, always wondered why you always see these wild stories coming out of Florida and now I know why!

I updated my post with an article that describes what we see.


If Chicago, IL had these same laws, we would have burned the city down a long time ago.
 
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