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[eot]

Hi,

So I’m working at a care home in which 17 residents have died, and more than 70 are infected, including 27 staff who are all sick.

Today I found, in the garage, 15 masks made by 3M that are N95. I bought them years ago when I was doing some painting. I never used them, and then forgot about them.

I’ve never actually worn one before. It appears there are some legit YouTube videos showing how to put these masks on properly. Word is that most people put them on improperly?

I’m wondering if these masks can be re-used? One person on the net said these masks could potentially be re-used by putting each one, after use, into a glad bag and then leaving the bag for 15 days and then re-using the mask? Not sure if that would work or not.

Also, I have an abundance of blue rubber gloves. But what I don’t have is protective eyewear. If I walk into a place in which the virus is airborne then surely it’s pointless wearing a mask without also wearing the eyewear?

More protection is better than none, so no it's not pointless. One of the main risks is actually when you remove your PPE though, so look up how to do that properly and don't touch your mask when it's on. As for reusing, there are various proposed methods for that, including heating to 70 C for 30 minutes, but that could affect the fit of the mask (and you don't want to do it in your home oven!!). If you have 15 masks all for personal use, the best method is probably to cycle them. Put them in a paper bag after you use them and leave them for a week.

 

[EightBit Man]

You have a month or two to come up with a new argument until covid has killed 650.000 people. Maybe less if things start taking off in the third world megacities.

The current amount of deaths is now less than a tenth of that. Combine that with the fact that a lot of people who didn't die because of COVID-19 were included in the current statistics. Take Italy for example:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health

 

[eot]

I never claimed he had a vaccine. He previously had a patents for things like SARS and Coronavirus, not the COVID-19. But I find it all highly suspicious, to have a exercise of a global pandemic of Coronavirus, just before the outbreak happened in China. All in collaboration with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and the World Economic Forum.

Why is it suspicious? I'm so sick of this conspiratorial mindset. Do you have some actual hypothesis you want to put forward? It's always just circumstantial nonsense.

These people were trying to evaluate our global preparedness for this kind of outbreak. It was motivated by the fact that two similar viruses had caused global outbreaks within the last two decades, and there was no fundamental reason why a much more contagious virus couldn't emerge.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

Can someone explain what is going on in France?

So these 26K cases they were backlogged cases? And all these dead people they found in nursing homes?

Was France lying about their numbers the whole time or they screwed up ?

Jesus, man, These types of questions are getting to be quite grating.

Not everything is a cover up. We're talking about a huge volume of cases being dealt with by multiple health regions, all with different test turnaround times and test policies and patient circumstances. You're not going to get them all reporting exactly at the same time to the central authorities.

 

[EightBit Man]

Why is it suspicious? I'm so sick of this conspiratorial mindset. Do you have some actual hypothesis you want to put forward? It's always just circumstantial nonsense.

These people were trying to evaluate our global preparedness for this kind of outbreak. It was motivated by the fact that two similar viruses had caused global outbreaks within the last two decades, and there was no fundamental reason why a much more contagious virus couldn't emerge.

No hard feelings, but I'm not going discuss what I think about it, I'll keep that to myself.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

Hi,

So I’m working at a care home in which 17 residents have died, and more than 70 are infected, including 27 staff who are all sick.

Today I found, in the garage, 15 masks made by 3M that are N95. I bought them years ago when I was doing some painting. I never used them, and then forgot about them.

I’ve never actually worn one before. It appears there are some legit YouTube videos showing how to put these masks on properly. Word is that most people put them on improperly?

I’m wondering if these masks can be re-used? One person on the net said these masks could potentially be re-used by putting each one, after use, into a glad bag and then leaving the bag for 15 days and then re-using the mask? Not sure if that would work or not.

Also, I have an abundance of blue rubber gloves. But what I don’t have is protective eyewear. If I walk into a place in which the virus is airborne then surely it’s pointless wearing a mask without also wearing the eyewear?

Here’s the thing:

Though Administration has denied this, I’m convinced.... actually CONVINCED would be a better way of putting it... that in the ‘old wing’ of the building, which dates back to the 1960’s, the virus IS airborne. Collectively, we the staff, have been ‘comparing’ notes, and it seems that that’s where everyone is getting sick. So far I haven’t had to go to that area yet - but that’s about to change.

Anyone here have any genuine experience with masks? I’m trying so hard not to make a mistake. Again, it’s my mom I’m worried about. Infecting myself, I mean. Or bringing the virus back home on my body or clothing. There’s so much bogus information around. You really have to sift through this stuff.

Also, I’m becoming more stable now. I’m still having bad days (usually it’s in the morning, before I actually go to work). But at work I’m surrounded by so many fearless, dedicated ladies that it’s impossible not to be influenced by them.

Also, in case you were wondering, no I’m not trained for an outbreak. I just work there. Care homes typically aren’t staffed by people with lots of ‘medical training’.

Anyway, stay safe everyone! Stay home if you can! And to those of you who are suffering you have my deepest sympathies. For relief, I just climb under a blanket and close my eyes!

Have you been fitted for an N95 mask before? These are not really one size fits all. They should have demonstrated at that time how to put them on.

 

[Wwg1wga]

don't troll the info video with they got it wrong so it is worthless going forward mentality, everyone got it wrong 'Just the Flu Bro(tm)'. If Fox News posted info videos I would share them too you might not like Vox but the content is not all created by one person.

I wish some of these people would come back and say we got it wrong but nope. lol

but this is not how we learn but shutting down every source that had stupid ideas at first

First of all they are not news but in fact political opinion and commentary. BIG BIG difference. Every story on their front web-page is about bashing Trump, Republicans and Conservatives. This usually means the presentation diverges into irrational typical lame stream media excuses comparing them to Nazis or Hitler.
Vox is definitely not unbiased or even objective for that matter. They are one of many liberal run rags that claim to be objective news organizations like CNN aka FAKE NEWS.


P.S . Though, I still appreciate what you did in this thread.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Have you been fitted for an N95 mask before? These are not really one size fits all. They should have demonstrated at that time how to put them on.

Maybe Industrial N95 Masks are different, but they are standard PPE for many industries. They aren’t fitted in any way other than maybe small, medium or large, and I have never seen that.

 

[Alx]

Yes, and it is embarrassing that he has to do it, it's something I would expect governments, that are able to throw around hundreds of billions, fucking do.

To be fair, governments are in charge of spending money on different subjects (health, education, police, economy,...) and are responsible of doing it reasonably. While billionaires like Gates are sitting on a huge pile of personal money that they can spend any way they want without any consequence on their lifestyle or others'.
It doesn't diminish Gates' gesture in any way, but it's not something you can expect from any person or institution.

 

[Stitch]

 

[MisterFalcon]

The current amount of deaths is now less than a tenth of that.

Yeah, you're comparing a year to less then a year. Where do you think covid deaths will stand december 31st ?

I'm still not sure what the point it is you're trying to make. On the one hand you mention the flu, an endemic virus for which there is a significant group immunity, effective vaccins and many years experience in treating it and this still kills 650k people. And this is supposed to mean the new virus for which there is no group immunity, no vaccine and no clear effective treatment less scary ? The main reason we're not at 50k deaths per day is that it's not yet reached enough people to do that.

 

[E-Cat]

I wonder what it must feel like to be a walking stereotypical 'thug'. Those people look like zombies.

 

[Birdo]

I see Londoners are defying the lockdown in the masses.

Just build a wall around London and let them all die.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

at the beginning of this thread this all felt like the fucking Twilight Zone
but now it is really hitting me, I don't like this new normal shit needs to end soon

 

[Grinchy]

Fuck, I can't believe I missed the annual gathering of astrophysicists this year!

 

[llien]

To be fair, governments are in charge of spending money on different subjects (health, education, police, economy,...) and are responsible of doing it reasonably. While billionaires like Gates are sitting on a huge pile of personal money that they can spend any way they want without any consequence on their lifestyle or others'.
It doesn't diminish Gates' gesture in any way, but it's not something you can expect from any person or institution.

Given the devastating impact C19 has on economy, such investment makes perfect sense even financially (even ignoring saved lives aspect), most of all, for countries, not businesses.
And if so, how is that an unreasonable thing to do for governments?

 

[sinnergy]

at the beginning of this thread this all felt like the fucking Twilight Zone
but not it is really hitting me, I don't like this new normal shit needs to end soon

Yeah man, but it won’t... as you need to keep pressure for at least a couple of months .

 

[mekes]

I see Londoners are defying the lockdown in the masses.

Just build a wall around London and let them all die.

I fully agree with the frustration of it. I’m in the City and I’ve been out 3 times in about 3 weeks, a lot of us are trying. Fuck those who would have us prolong this thing. At this point I honestly think the govt should put a stop to outdoor exercise, I think that would help. It’s not far off being the London marathon out here with all the “first time” joggers.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

First of all they are not news but in fact political opinion and commentary. BIG BIG difference. Every story on their front web-page is about bashing Trump, Republicans and Conservatives. This usually means the presentation diverges into irrational typical lame stream media excuses comparing them to Nazis or Hitler.
Vox is definitely not unbiased or even objective for that matter. They are one of many liberal run rags that claim to be objective news organizations like CNN aka FAKE NEWS.


P.S . Though, I still appreciate what you did in this thread.

It is my fault I failed to see the seeder side of VOX since I only kept the music and science parts of their channel in my rotation.
these days it is harder and harder to find a source with some educational info that does not have a stigma with one side or the other.
VOX never had so many red flags for me until recently making all the youtube videos I once enjoyed toxic on some boards.

I get your reaction, and understand it. I am learning a lot of good things about the Right and the Left these days. I really hate politics when it touches my desire to learn new shit

 

[nbcjr]

People say : don't worry about the food, but they also say it began with bat soup? Makes no sense.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Yeah man, but it won’t... as you need to keep pressure for at least a couple of months .

I got to go get some food later today and I am so anxious going out to a store using carts and seeing people lol

I could not even sleep last night anxiety. Not that I ever liked the grocery store much my stated banned plastic bags a while ago making checkout a mess for me. I just want to go in and get out with enough food stuff to isolate for another month.

I still can't afford to catch this shit but my State has 5,000+ casses now not really a safe zone. I should be under a rock

 

[nush]

People say : don't worry about the food, but they also say it began with bat soup? Makes no sense.

Do you consider bats food? Now it makes sense.

 

[nbcjr]

Do you consider bats food? Now it makes sense.

Continues to don't make sense. Either it is transmittable by ingesting something or it isn't.

 

[DeepEnigma]

People say : don't worry about the food, but they also say it began with bat soup? Makes no sense.

Because it didn’t come from that, do you want proof, China reopened the wet markets with zero issue.

 

[GamingKaiju]

I do find it awfully suspicious that a major pandemic emerged from a wet market that was located very close to a Virology lab

now I’m not a conspiracy theorist but:

Spoiler

It was aliens

 

[nush]

Because it didn’t come from that, do you want proof, China reopened the wet markets with zero issue.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah, from the fucking labs. People would have to be cognitively retarded to try and think otherwise.

 

[holygeesus]

The current amount of deaths is now less than a tenth of that. Combine that with the fact that a lot of people who didn't die because of COVID-19 were included in the current statistics. Take Italy for example:



Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health

If this really wasn't that big a deal, why do you think countries are tanking their economies because of it? Just for a laugh?

 

[Loki]

One of the main risks is actually when you remove your PPE though, so look up how to do that properly and don't touch your mask when it's on.

Why is that? You shouldn't even touch the outside portion of the mask to re-position it when necessary?

 

[Piku_Ringo]

If this really wasn't that big a deal, why do you think countries are tanking their economies because of it? Just for a laugh?

Don't put it against them not doing it for a laugh.

 

[jason10mm]

Can anyone say with any honesty that the person with billions in the bank has that much relative (intrinsic) value compared to the man living on the street?

Yes they do. Go spend 10 minutes around a billionaire industrialist or businessman/entrepreneur and you will realize their is a VAST difference between their energy, drive, and focus than joe blow off the street.

It is socialist b$ trying to convince you that there is no difference between successful people and failures other than systemic racism and oppression losing out to privilege. It is not true.

 

[Loki]

Yes they do. Go spend 10 minutes around a billionaire industrialist or businessman/entrepreneur and you will realize their is a VAST difference between their energy, drive, and focus than joe blow off the street.

It is socialist b$ trying to convince you that there is no difference between successful people and failures other than systemic racism and oppression losing out to privilege. It is not true.

No one said there is NO difference - there is indeed a large (and oftentimes very large) difference. But there is not a 100,000x difference. Period.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Yes they do. Go spend 10 minutes around a billionaire industrialist or businessman/entrepreneur and you will realize their is a VAST difference between their energy, drive, and focus than joe blow off the street.

It is socialist b$ trying to convince you that there is no difference between successful people and failures other than systemic racism and oppression losing out to privilege. It is not true.

Trust fund folk are not industrialists/businessman/entrepeneur/buzzword... inheriting money doesn't make you special.

 

[M1chl]

(Diversity is our strength)™

 

[holygeesus]

Don't put it against them not doing it for a laugh.

I mean the 'it's just the flu' bros never have an answer for that question though do they?

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

Because it didn’t come from that, do you want proof, China reopened the wet markets with zero issue.

NY has over 80 wet markets and no one bats an eye!

:badumts:

 

[Piku_Ringo]

 

[synchronicity]

Yes they do. Go spend 10 minutes around a billionaire industrialist or businessman/entrepreneur and you will realize their is a VAST difference between their energy, drive, and focus than joe blow off the street.

It is socialist b$ trying to convince you that there is no difference between successful people and failures other than systemic racism and oppression losing out to privilege. It is not true.

I'm talking about intrinsic human value. People are so conditioned to measuring everything in terms of dollars and cents that the value of a human being is quantified by most in a similar manner. What did you produce? What have you earned?

The cost of measuring everything via those standards has a societal cost. And we're living it.

 

[ManaByte]

Holy shit



2 outcomes. Half of us catch it or a vaccine is available. Either way, it’s likely over by end of ‘21.

Anyone who thinks they're going to be able to keep people out of work and locked up until the end of 2021 is living in a CCP dreamworld.

 

[nbcjr]

Anyone who thinks they're going to be able to keep people out of work and locked up until the end of 2021 is living in a CCP dreamworld.

I don't think that even the scientist believes that

 

[ManaByte]

I don't think that even the scientist believes that

Nah, that's what his chart is showing. He's saying if we go back to normal and don't stay indoors after September it'll get worse. So he's saying stay in until the end of 2021.

 

[prag16]

If this really wasn't that big a deal, why do you think countries are tanking their economies because of it? Just for a laugh?

Because they're petrified of possibly being accused they didn't do enough.

If Sweden's strategy was to fail, they'd get raked over the coals a LOT harder than countries who hypothetically are determined to have wrecked their economy unnecessarily.

 

[HellforLeather]

Ah face tattoos...truly the sign of intelligent, productive members of society.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[eot]

Why is that? You shouldn't even touch the outside portion of the mask to re-position it when necessary?

Well, if it sits right you don't need to adjust it. Anyway, the idea is that you should assume those surfaces (gloves, outside of mask) are contaminated. To actually adjust the mask you typically want to touch the edges and you're gonna end up touching your face too.

 

[MichaelRR1989]

China has killed more Americans and done more damage to America than Al-Qaeda did on 9/11 and its aftermath including the U.S. troops that died in the wars that followed.

Let that sink in.

Payback is going to be a real bitch for the CCP.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

an at risk person going to the grocery store for food not a good idea. And this time all the paper towels were gone with the TP fucking cunts!
I did not know that was still a thing. smh

I really hope I did not catch this shit

I really hate this timeline

 

[Smiles and Cries]

 

[12Goblins]

bro you are absolutely free to deny science and join the others in the ohio street party -Enjoy!

 

[Deleted member 17706]

bro you are absolutely free to deny science and join the others in the ohio street party -Enjoy!

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how Sweden's strategy pans out. Intuitively, it makes sense.

We can't lock down the world until there is a vaccine ready to be deployed (probably summer 2021 at the earliest) and lock downs only serve to reduce the severity of the first peak while also pushing out the duration of the pandemic.