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[Velius]

I'm going to upgrade. I'm getting a promotion after I graduate and despite all the insanity surrounding the CoVid19 thing I'm looking okay financially. I want to spend anywhere between $2000.00 - $3000.00. I'll use my current case, and I'm not sure but I think I can use my current PSU:

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But I'd like to get a big SSD, new MoBo, memory, CPU and GPU.

Can you guys help me conceive, believe and achieve? Back in my early days I was obsessed with video cards but built myself into a bottleneck. I would like to mitigate that. I think my last rig (I built in 2015) did pretty well avoiding bottlenecks but right now I'm uneducated as far as the CPU war goes.

Help me Gaffers. You're my only hope.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Its literally the worst time for a new build.

 

[Velius]

Its literally the worst time for a new build.

Help me understand why.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Target resolution and framerate?

Quick look at the PSU - 10 year warranty so should be okay unless you've noticed issues?

We have a thread with various useful nuggets of info as well:

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[BlackTron]

Help me understand why.

We're on the cusp of a new gen. Buying a high-end video card now would be akin to buying an Xbox One X shortly before the price went down to $300. A lot of people are waiting by the sidelines to see what happens, including me.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Help me understand why.

Corona? Youll most likely get nickle and dimed by part sellers atm.

PC parts are going to become more scarce and expensive until things turn back to normal.

With that said..

Nvidia is releasing new gpus soon

Wait for Intel i10 series and DDR5.

Wait for release benchmarks of the new consoles.


The only I would buy any parts would be second hand and cheap. i9 or AMD equivalent/2080ti/SSD to hold me over.

 

[LazyParrot]

New Nvidia cards and AMD CPUs will be out later this year. If you can wait, wait.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

What are you playing?

 

[Pejo]

I recommend as others in the thread have, to wait. If you really need an upgrade, just upgrade your graphics card and hold out on the rest.

 

[Radical_3d]

New Nvidia cards and AMD CPUs will be out later this year. If you can wait, wait.

This. And by the end of the year you’ll have PS5 class SSD. It’s worth the wait.

 

[Velius]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I can certainly wait. I've got an i5 4690-K Devil's Canyon, 16 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1080.

Stupid me, I figured the coronavirus thing would reduce prices.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

I think that you should wait until the release of the Ryzen 5000 series, which should be the first generation of processors from AMD that will be compatible with the next volatile memory standard, DDR5. Furthermore, I would imagine that by then, M.2 NVMe SSDs that are as fast as the one that will be in the PlayStation 5 and faster than the one that will be in the Xbox Series X will be available for PC and you would therefore be able to include one in your next PC, which would make it capable of running the types of games that developers will be designing based on the super-fast loading times and in-game asset streaming of which the PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Series X will be capable.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I can certainly wait. I've got an i5 4690-K Devil's Canyon, 16 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1080.

Stupid me, I figured the coronavirus thing would reduce prices.

Alternatively you could do a new build without buying a new GPU. Do you need more CPU power right now?

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I can certainly wait. I've got an i5 4690-K Devil's Canyon, 16 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1080.

Stupid me, I figured the coronavirus thing would reduce prices.

Same build to me but Im on a 3770.

I wish I grabbed my other build out of storage before the lock down. The 3770 is showing its age.

If you can find a cheap 8700k and motherboard + ram. Id jump on that if you think you need a bit more juice. Id hold the gpu upgrade till the end of the year.

 

[LazyParrot]

Wait for Intel i10 series and DDR5.

Intel won't be supporting DDR5 anytime soon. Neither will AMD.

I think that you should wait until the release of the Ryzen 5000 series, which should be the first generation of processors from AMD that will be compatible with the next volatile memory standard, DDR5.

I mean, waiting is fine if it's a couple of months. But Ryzen 5000 is at least 2 years away. If you're willing to wait that long, you probably don't really need a new PC in the first place.

 

[BlackTron]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I can certainly wait. I've got an i5 4690-K Devil's Canyon, 16 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1080.

Stupid me, I figured the coronavirus thing would reduce prices.

I have the exact same CPU. I know it's old, but I'm still floored how tremendous its value was. My system plays all the games I want on PC without an issue (mostly 5-10 year old games lol) and it's stable, cool and reliable af. The compulsion to upgrade is weak, time to wait.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Intel won't be supporting DDR5 anytime soon. Neither will AMD.


I mean, waiting is fine if it's a couple of months. But Ryzen 5000 is at least 2 years away. If you're willing to wait that long, you probably don't really need a new PC in the first place.

2021 going by reports

 

[Velius]

Alternatively you could do a new build without buying a new GPU. Do you need more CPU power right now?

I honestly don't know. I don't have a 4k monitor, only 1080p. I haven't played a game that runs less than 60fps yet. For a long time I was OC'ing the i5 but it was making Doom freeze my rig so I turned it off.

I suspect that maybe I need to put new adhesive on my CPU/Heatsink.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Intel won't be supporting DDR5 anytime soon. Neither will AMD.


I mean, waiting is fine if it's a couple of months. But Ryzen 5000 is at least 2 years away. If you're willing to wait that long, you probably don't really need a new PC in the first place.

Well that's when I intend to upgrade. My current specs:

i7-5820k
Asus X99
4 x 4GB DDR4
GTX 1080 Ti
Samsung EVO 500GB Sata SSD
3 Western Digital HDDs (1TB, 4TB, 5TB)

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Corona or not, Id would never upgrade this close to next gen console launch unless youre going for mid range where fps, max settings and rez are not a priority.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Unless you're reasonably confident you can sell your GPU for a decent price maybe a month ahead of the release of RDNA 2 or Amphere, I'd wait off on investing a sizable chunk of money into that. GTX 1080 is still a very good GPU.

I was in a similar position at the beginning of the year. I wanted a new GPU, specifically with RTX support, but I wasn't sure when Amphere and RDNA 2 would release. Although I was really wanting the 2070 Super, I found an Amazon open box deal on Zotac 2060 Super for $360. I was able to get Zotac to approve the warranty on the card, and the first couple days I put it through some tough benchmarking and it performed nicely, so I'm happy with the purchase.

Later this year if I have money, I'll just give it to my sons for their PC. If I don't, I'll sell it and use the money to upgrade to RTX 3070 or RDNA 2 68xx, whatever cards slot into the $500 price bracket. I'm keeping an eye out for a killer deal on R5 3600 to replace my R5 1600, so I can upgrade my sons' PC this summer for one of their birthdays. I know Zen 3 is coming, but I don't mind since 3600 will be sufficient for my needs.

I think what PhoenixTank suggested could be viable. If you're hard up, do the CPU and everything aside from the GPU now, then you can wait to see what the rumors and official spec releases look like for RDNA 2 and Amphere.

/novel

 

[CuNi]

Reading about PC's, next gen consoles etc. takes a toll on my nerves.. Money saved up and all I'm waiting for is for the new GPU's and Ryzens to drop to grab em and do a complete fresh build.

 

[LazyParrot]

2021 going by reports

Ryzen 4000 is launching near the end of the year, and Intel's 10th generation processors will launch even sooner than that. Neither will support DDR5.

Since the original Ryzen, the time between generations has been around 14-16 months, so I wouldn't expect Ryzen 5000 consumer CPUs until 2022 at the earliest. I doubt Intel will be releasing anything before that point, either, unless they go for yet another 14nm refresh, which would probably disqualify them from being a viable option anyway. DDR5 will be available prior to that, of course, but what's the point if you're stuck with boards that don't support it?

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Ryzen 4000 is launching near the end of the year, and Intel's 10th generation processors will launch even sooner than that. Neither will support DDR5.

Since the original Ryzen, the time between generations has been around 14-16 months, so I wouldn't expect Ryzen 5000 consumer CPUs until 2022 at the earliest. I doubt Intel will be releasing anything before that point, either, unless they go for yet another 14nm refresh, which would probably disqualify them from being a viable option anyway. DDR5 will be available prior to that, of course, but what's the point if you're stuck with boards that don't support it?

Oh well, it doesnt change anything for me. New consoles around the corner, Corona, economy.

Upgrading my toys can wait.

 

[Guileless]

If you aren't getting one of the new consoles near launch, why would this be a bad time to upgrade? I would bet on delays for new component launches.

I haven't noticed a major change in component prices at this point. But I don't follow it very closely.

 

[Gargus]

I'm at work so going into specifics is a little more than I can handle. But I will tell you part brands I would only use. Newegg and Amazon are a good source for parts and usually where I go unless best buy has it at the same price with their limited selection so I can get reward points. These are the brand I have been using for decades in my builds and ones I do for others and never had an issue. I build only with quality stuff, I don't care about fancy names or flashy. I prefer no frills.

And as far as waiting, I wouldn't bother. There is ALWAYS something better right around the corner. Always something new on the horizon.

Video card- Evga

Motherboard- asus or gigabyte or evga

Ram- corsair

Cpu- intel

Cpu cooling- Thermaltake heatsink, with a Vantec stealth fan, and use arctic silver paste.

Hard drive- crucial or Samsung

Power supply- corsair

Sound card- sound blaster if you have a 5.1 system, Asus xonar for everything else

Wifi card- asus

Monitor- acer or Samsung

Case- antec

Blu ray dvd drive if you put one in- lg or samsung or asus


Don't forget to check the bios version of your motherboard and flash it before you load windows. It isn't too big an issue but you could have windows use a wrong default driver when it refinds everything or prevent an irq conflict. Oh and download the newest chipset drivers once you're in windows.

 

[Durask]

If you are playing at 1080p, what do you expect to get from upgrading?

Your current setup should be able to handle pretty much anything at 1080p.. What games are you playing?

I went from 1080 to 2080super and in retrospect it was a waste of money.

 

[PhoenixTank]

I honestly don't know. I don't have a 4k monitor, only 1080p. I haven't played a game that runs less than 60fps yet. For a long time I was OC'ing the i5 but it was making Doom freeze my rig so I turned it off.

I suspect that maybe I need to put new adhesive on my CPU/Heatsink.

Reapplying thermal paste is definitely cheaper than a new build
Gathering that the monitor is 60hz too? If so those are modest targets and you should be okay for the most part... but depending on the game 4 cores & 4 threads is going to be the weak point. Doubly so if you want to do any video editing/encoding or anything a bit more heavy duty - you haven't mentioned that so I'm going to assume no.

A very appropriate video covering your CPU:



Wait for Intel to make the 10th gen desktop parts official. This month, I think? Nothing really exciting to expect there but we don't have the full picture on pricing for the midrange. Hopefully that'll pull AMD down on price a bit too so you can make a decent choice between them. Or everything will suddenly go out of stock and you can curse my name

Start thinking about whether you'd want to go 4K60 or 1440p144 in the future. That along with freesync/g-sync is the real upgrade for the kind of money you're talking about.

 

[pennythoughts]

If you are playing at 1080p, what do you expect to get from upgrading?

Your current setup should be able to handle pretty much anything at 1080p.. What games are you playing?

I went from 1080 to 2080super and in retrospect it was a waste of money.

I have nearly his exact same setup but with a better CPU and am a single monitor gamer.

There's nothing currently out I don't run maxed at 60 fps/1080p.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Get an Alienware PC like my friend, OP.

You know what's awesome!? My friend is actually selling one right now!

DM me so we can try to reach a deal.....for my friend ofcourse.

 

[wordslaughter]

Now is a good time to buy a new CPU, Mobo, lower end SSD and RAM.

- You can get a 8-12 core CPU that absolutely WILL last you through the entire next gen. SSDs are cheap even many NVMe are - Think Intel 660p. RAM is also cheap right now and 16GB will actually be enough to last you all through next gen too.

- All of these parts may become very difficult to find and expensive soon due to the CCP virus.

Now is not a good time to buy a new GPU and you might want to wait on a high end SSD.

- The main reason for this is you should probably wait for a GPU that has 12-16GB of RAM and can do Raytracing. Next Gen GPU's are coming and buying one today may leave you wanting to upgrade sooner than you expected. But you could get something cheaper to tide you over until then. That's a good option.

 

[Nester99]

Supply is low now, a lot of work from home people just upgraded their shit.

I just upgraded this week. Mind you i have been neglectful on my video card due to PS4 and Xbox. last build was 8 years ago with a 560TI,
Working from home for a month motivated me to upgrade, also, when else can i write off a new PC as a work machine !?

Got a 2070 8g and a Ryzen 7 3700x with a 1TB SSD
570x MB should be set for some upgrades for a while. I don't need to be cutting edge.



Working from home really pushed it over the edge.

 

[Captn]

I always upgrade some of the major parts every 2 years or so because I am able to get a good price for my "old" parts.

As an example, I am rebuilding mine tomorrow actually. I am changing cpu and mobo.

I had an Intel 7940x and a Asus X299 E-Gaming which I sold to my friend 600$ CAN

I am replacing these by a Rysen 3950x and MSI MEG ACE X570 mobo which I paid 1200$ CAN

An actual 600$ cost to replace. Now I agree that in these times it is not easy looking for good prices but sometimes good deals come around...

I can't wait to slap these ones in in a few hours!

Good luck everyone trying to upgrade considering what is going on in the world. I hope you find what you're all looking for at a decent price.

Cheers!!

 

[Wunray]

I would suggest going AMD and getting a 3600x with a baller x570 board and hold onto that 1080, later this year when AMD releases their new cpu later this year you'll be halfway there. Also might consider getting some new ram like 3600mhz at cl16.

 

[VisualFidelity]

I just bought a new gigabyte 2070 for 379.99. 2070 was 499.00 when it released, so I figure its a good time to buy one. I doubt i will find something this good at this price range and if I do, I should be able to selll this card on ebay for 300 minimum towards the 3000 series.

 

[Rentahamster]

I can certainly wait. I've got an i5 4690-K Devil's Canyon, 16 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1080.

That seems like a good enough rig. Is there something you want to do that you can't because your rig is holding you back?

I honestly don't know. I don't have a 4k monitor, only 1080p. I haven't played a game that runs less than 60fps yet.

120+fps is nicer to have than 4K in my opinion, but others may differ.

For a long time I was OC'ing the i5 but it was making Doom freeze my rig so I turned it off.

I suspect that maybe I need to put new adhesive on my CPU/Heatsink.

What's your heatsink?

 

[Guileless]

Now is not a good time to buy a new GPU and you might want to wait on a high end SSD.

- The main reason for this is you should probably wait for a GPU that has 12-16GB of RAM and can do Raytracing. Next Gen GPU's are coming and buying one today may leave you wanting to upgrade sooner than you expected. But you could get something cheaper to tide you over until then. That's a good option.

This is the best argument for waiting - technically ambitious future games will be developed with the new consoles in mind. What PC components available now going to be able to keep up with the new consoles? The SSD thing is something to consider.

 

[Rentahamster]

What PC components available now going to be able to keep up with the new consoles?

All of them.

I'm terms of pure performance, everything the new consoles an potentially do is doable right now on PC for the games that exist now. It'll just cost a lot of money.

It's the same tech upgrade path that has been going on for years.

 

[GreenAlien]

Personally, I think one year before and after "nextgen" launch is usually the worst time to upgrade from a price/performance standpoint.

 

[llien]

Desktop Ryzen 4000 and RDNA2 are launching in autumn, with AMD in this mode vs Intel:

and sharpening its blades for Greenia.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

OP, don't rush. As I said, it makes no sense to upgrade now considering that the next volatile memory standard, DDR5, will be released perhaps next year. Just be patient.

 

[Velius]

That seems like a good enough rig. Is there something you want to do that you can't because your rig is holding you back?


120+fps is nicer to have than 4K in my opinion, but others may differ.


What's your heatsink?

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Nothing in particular. Doom Eternal runs perfectly. Both Doom and Doom Eternal will sometimes still freeze, I'm wondering if one of the components is going bad

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

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Nothing in particular. Doom Eternal runs perfectly. Both Doom and Doom Eternal will sometimes still freeze, I'm wondering if one of the components is going bad

What are your temps when playing them?

Have you turned off all of your overclocks?

 

[Optimistic Gamer]

New Nvidia cards and AMD CPUs will be out later this year. If you can wait, wait.

"X is about to come out soon. You should wait." is the end-all argument when people ask for the right time for a new build and it cracks me up everytime.

Parrot is right tho, right now might be one of the worst times ever. Put that money into your girlfriend for now and reconsider near the end of the year.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

"X is about to come out soon. You should wait." is the end-all argument when people ask for the right time for a new build and it cracks me up everytime.

Parrot is right tho, right now might be one of the worst times ever. Put that money into your girlfriend for now and reconsider near the end of the year.

Youd have a point if it was a year to 2 of a wait. These new cards are right around the corner and with the consoles releasing at the end of the year, youre better of waiting to see what they can do as it will provide an insight to what well get from ports/multi platform titles and the hardware needed to run them.

Were too close right now to new tech releasing across the board that it would be stupid to do a full on upgrade right now, let alone with price gouging and limited stock.

 

[SantaC]

Wait for Ryzen 4000 series and nvidia 3000 series.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Alienwares always give great systems

 

[Optimistic Gamer]

Youd have a point if it was a year to 2 of a wait. These new cards are right around the corner and with the consoles releasing at the end of the year, youre better of waiting to see what they can do as it will provide an insight to what well get from ports/multi platform titles and the hardware needed to run them.

Were too close right now to new tech releasing across the board that it would be stupid to do a full on upgrade right now, let alone with price gouging and limited stock.

uhm... I agreed with your point mate. All's cool.

Currently waiting and putting money to the side.

 

[INC]

whats a good piece of software to check if my RAM, CPU or GPU is bottlenecking?

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

uhm... I agreed with your point mate. All's cool.

Currently waiting and putting money to the side.

That'll teach me for not reading your whole post. and it was only 2 sentences.