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[Geki-D]

They did something like that when the PS4/Xbone launched? Buy game, get it cross generation?

Nope. It's pretty hard to imagine what incentive platform holders can give to bring third parties onboard with this. MS talks about "smart delivery" and I'm sure Sony will have something similar, but what if Activision are just like "Nah, don't think we'll do that". Then what? Are MS & Sony going to fork the bill to offer everyone an upgrade? Sounds crazy expensive. Are they going to say that Acti can't have a next gen version if they refuse smart delivery? Not very likely, imagine refusing a juggernaut game like CoD on your system.

We also have the upgrade Vs full next gen version problem. I don't know if CDPR ever cleared this up, but they were talking about a current gen upgrade for next gen systems and a true next gen version later down the line. So which does smart delivery actually cover? The current gen upgrade or the full next gen version? How long is "later" that it no longer justifies being counted as smart delivery? Like if TLOU2 comes out with a full PS5 version 6 months after the consoles launch, should it be smart delivery still? What about if it's a year later? What if it comes out with the DLC bundled but the person who got the PS4 version never got the DLC? Would MGS2 Subsistence that has extra content be considered a free upgrade over base MGS2? In that case aren't devs just going to add a new outfit in a next gen version and say it's a new version which means it doesn't apply to smart delivery?

It seems like smart delivery is a good thing but I'd expect there's going to be plenty of caveats and exceptions that have people confused. I get the impression it's more of a good will gesture than anything else.

 

[Clear]

In case you haven't noticed, its standard practice for MS to promote its new stuff using copyrightable names. Hence everything is "project <something>" or this technology is "direct <whatever>". Its just a ploy to aid branding and market differentiation.

 

[shaddam]

Oh so just like cross buy with vita/ps3 or nowadays ps4/vita. Smart delivery is just a new pr buzzword to an old thing

 

[Doczu]

Nope. It's pretty hard to imagine what incentive platform holders can give to bring third parties onboard with this. MS talks about "smart delivery" and I'm sure Sony will have something similar, but what if Activision are just like "Nah, don't think we'll do that". Then what? Are MS & Sony going to fork the bill to offer everyone an upgrade? Sounds crazy expensive. Are they going to say that Acti can't have a next gen version if they refuse smart delivery? Not very likely, imagine refusing a juggernaut game like CoD on your system.

We also have the upgrade Vs full next gen version problem. I don't know if CDPR ever cleared this up, but they were talking about a current gen upgrade for next gen systems and a true next gen version later down the line. So which does smart delivery actually cover? The current gen upgrade or the full next gen version? How long is "later" that it no longer justifies being counted as smart delivery? Like if TLOU2 comes out with a full PS5 version 6 months after the consoles launch, should it be smart delivery still? What about if it's a year later? What if it comes out with the DLC bundled but the person who got the PS4 version never got the DLC? Would MGS2 Subsistence that has extra content be considered a free upgrade over base MGS2? In that case aren't devs just going to add a new outfit in a next gen version and say it's a new version which means it doesn't apply to smart delivery?

It seems like smart delivery is a good thing but I'd expect there's going to be plenty of caveats and exceptions that have people confused. I get the impression it's more of a good will gesture than anything else.

Well i was right. Activision gave out PS4 copies of Advanced Warfare when you bought (pre ordered?) the PS3 copy (and the other way around)

https://blog.us.playstation.com/201...nced-warfare-available-for-ps3-ps4-cross-buy/

I'm sure most of the time something like this won't be offered as this would mostly rule out double dipping (especially on the Series X with it's full backwards compatibility), but on the other hand we know for sure that after 1 year the last gen will slowly be put out of misery and we won't need to discuss this anymore, just like it previously happened.

 

[darkinstinct]

They're not gonna be making 2 versions of the games. No way Jose. Not with much better assets or the type of content that'd be impossible to replicate on PS4 and Xbox3.

What the hell are you talking about? Until two years ago they created separate versions for Xbox 360 and PS3.

 

[darkinstinct]

I guess they had to follow suit after Ubisoft and CD Projekt red said they would apply start using Microsofts' Smart Delivery

They don't and they really don't care. If somebody pays them to do so, they will gladly do it. Just like Ubisoft and CD Project Red. Don't think for one second that any publisher will offer free upgrades just because they can. The start of a new gen is when you can make the most amount of money with games for those new platforms, because there is a general lack of next gen content. So if the customer isn't paying what they lose, somebody else is.

 

[The Hamburglar]

no, it's not. Smart Delivery will give you the true nextgen version, not just an upgrade/patch.
This is what we have now with Xbox one X enhanced titles, Pro boost mode patches etc.

so, I think they will just release those enhanced updates for free, so free boost mode etc, so free upgrades. but you will not get the full nextgen version for free, otherwise they would say xsx/ps5 version and not just "upgrade".

Phil is that you?

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Oh so just like cross buy with vita/ps3 or nowadays ps4/vita. Smart delivery is just a new pr buzzword to an old thing

It's not, it's an evolution of it. "With Smart Delivery, customers will play the only version of the game across multiple SKUs that will smartly scale accordingly. This also guarantees cross-saves and DLC support, something cross-buy lacked since the games were technically different from one another. "

 

[darkinstinct]

It's not, it's an evolution of it.

It's actually neither. Smart delivery is three existing systems (Play Anywhere and X enhancements and FastStart) thrown together and rebranded. And that's all it is. It exists mostly because of Game Pass, because Microsoft doesn't want to have Game Pass customers have to wonder if they can actually use the games that are on there. It's bad enough with Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Game Pass for PC, now imagine an Xbox Game Pass for Series X thrown in for good measure. There will be only Xbox Game Pass for consoles, and Smart Delivery is mandatory for that to work. For the next 6 to 18 months every Xbox game will still release on Xbox One. So they need to have a plan for that. Can't just keep Series X games from coming to Game Pass. So for those up to 18 months Smart Delivery is how they will approach that. Afterwards: xCloud. If you are still on Xbox One S/X, have Game Pass, you will not get new games to play on your console, you will instead be able to simply stream them to your old console.

EA is a special case, because they are not on Game Pass. But they have their own subscription service, so they have the same idea. There will be only EA Access, and for a period subscribers will get the correct version for their console via Smart Delivery, afterwards they can use xCloud. The alternative would be to offer two services or dangle some next gen carrots in front of their subscribers that they can't play.

 

[cragarmi]

This notion that Sony wont have such a 'feature' wouldnt even be a thing, if MS hadnt made such a song and dance about it. It would have been taken for granted that next gen patches would be free, from both parties. As always it will be up to 3rd party devs to choose whether to charge or not. But i will be very surprised if Sony charge for them! And the idea that with MS you will get the full nextgen version and with Sony you will just get backwards compat, is just madness. Any Cross gen games will only require a patch for their nextgen versions, differences will be minimal, due to having to support Jaguar architecture.

 

[ANIMAL1975]

no, it's not. Smart Delivery will give you the true nextgen version, not just an upgrade/patch.
This is what we have now with Xbox one X enhanced titles, Pro boost mode patches etc.

so, I think they will just release those enhanced updates for free, so free boost mode etc, so free upgrades. but you will not get the full nextgen version for free, otherwise they would say xsx/ps5 version and not just "upgrade".

WRONG:

The biggest difference easily overlooked is the cross-buy entitled customers to multiple versions of the same game on multiple platforms. With Smart Delivery, customers will play the only version of the game across multiple SKUs that will smartly scale accordingly. This also guarantees cross-saves and DLC support, something cross-buy lacked since the games were technically different from one another. If you have a Series X in your living room and a Xbox One upstairs, you can play the 4K version of your game downstairs during the day, then retire to play the Xbox One version upstairs, all with the same save etc.

For instance, between PS3 and PS4, I owned Black Flag and with cross-buy upgraded to the PS4 version. However, I was forced to start from the beginning of the game due to the fact they were two separate versions of the same game. Smart Delivery eliminates this and makes for a far more elegant implementation.
Source

Are you @wrongiswrong dude?

Sony can't shout about it because their whole BC message is messed up. Compared to MS which seems to have Xbox One, One X and Series X all sorted out, Sony's BC message was something like "top 100 at launch + 4000 other games we're still working on".

Sony can't say a game is cross platform PS4/PS5 as a single purchase because who knows how many of those 4000 games will support it.

They haven't even been able to commit or confirm if first party games support it.

Lol if there is a patch (from the actual dev studio!) one would think that they already tested for compatibility issues no?... Lol
And once again, ps5 has a legacy mode to play ps4 games without enhancements (by customizations in the CPU and the GPU to mimic the old architectures)

For PS5, extra logic is added to the RDNA 2 GPU to ensure compatibility with PS4 and PS4 Pro, but how about the CPU side of the equation?

"All of the game logic created for Jaguar CPUs works properly on Zen 2 CPUs, but the timing of execution of instructions can be substantially different," Mark Cerny tells us. "We worked to AMD to customise our particular Zen 2 cores; they have modes in which they can more closely approximate Jaguar timing. We're keeping that in our back pocket, so to speak, as we proceed with the backwards compatibility work."

Noticed the" we are keeping that in our back pocket? Because they're still working in the enhanced BC mode

There has also been some confusion about backwards compatibility, where Cerny's comments about running the top 100 PlayStation 4 games on PS5 with enhanced performance were misconstrued to mean that only a relatively small amount of titles would run at launch. This was clarified a couple of days later (expect thousands of games to run)

Source

And for your information, Ms also had to share a later clarification on the subject, with the exact same purpose:

Thousands of games available at launch, testings and validating still going on (for enhancement compatibility purposes of course). The MS tweet and Sonys clarification where both posted and discussed in the thread at the time, but obviously bias always prevail and the facts get buried in the process.

 

[Kerotan Frog]

I had a question and not sure where to ask. So since current and nextgen consoles are similar to PCs, will the difference between a PS4 version of a game and a PS5 version of a game be like sliding graphics PC settings from medium settings to very high with extra effects? Are most games now scalable in regards to graphics and performance? Or will there be extra work done on next gen versions to make them more special?

 

[darkinstinct]

This notion that Sony wont have such a 'feature' wouldnt even be a thing, if MS hadnt made such a song and dance about it. It would have been taken for granted that next gen patches would be free, from both parties. As always it will be up to 3rd party devs to choose whether to charge or not. But i will be very surprised if Sony charge for them! And the idea that with MS you will get the full nextgen version and with Sony you will just get backwards compat, is just madness. Any Cross gen games will only require a patch for their nextgen versions, differences will be minimal, due to having to support Jaguar architecture.

Those games use CPUs on PC that are 10 times more powerful than Jaguar cores and they are not held back in any way. If anything next gen consoles will get proper PC ports of those games. Of course it's more than a patch. You need completely new assets (which already exist on PC). And ultimately it's neither Sony nor Microsoft who make the decision to offer these upgrades for free: It's the publisher and nobody else.

 

[iNvid02]

I remember these cunts introducing online passes for used games, what a shitty trend that was

Glad to see something positive for consumers come out of EA's constant downward spiral for the last generation, they know they cant afford to alienate people moreso

 

[Mista]

EA saying this? Makes me believe that they won’t be doing two versions then.

 

[DrScissorsMD]

Your post comes off as a little on the bitter side. Try not to get too emotionally invested.

Playstation is a much stronger brand worldwide than Xbox.
But dont worry about those Instagram likes. Everything will be alright

Good job completely missing the tone and context, you are every bit as dumb as your comments make you look.

 

[Codes 208]

They did something like that when the PS4/Xbone launched? Buy game, get it cross generation?

For $10 extra

Nope.

Some games they actually did. Cod: ghosts for example you could buy a special edition of the 360 version that included a digital code for the xbox one version, but it was $10 extra.

activision is the epitome of greed as far as devs go so i wouldnt be surprised if they tried the same shit or similar here

 

[CRAIG667]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

You need to look into what smart delivery is, it's not this.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

If true then Sony need to shout it from the damn heavens. If they do support it then it makes it stranger still that they haven’t said more regarding PS5 as my understanding was they didn’t want to step on their own toes regarding TLOU2 and GoT. If these two titles had free upgrades for PS5 then why not say so? It could only get them more sales, not less.

I am expecting they will announce it at their official reveal.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Will there be cross gen games? Yeah no question but those titles won't define next generation.

 

[Demon2blades]

Cross buy isn't the same as smart delivery, it has some extra features. Like the people of the article say, it's an evolution of it.

Doesn't that mean it's the same version of the game but everything just upscaled ? So not built completely for its perspective system i.e series X / one X ... Sounds the same as crossbuy to me really .

 

[Jigsaah]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

Smart delivery has nothing to do with whether or not the games will cost to upgrade. Smart delivery is more about delivering the proper version of the game based on which Xbox you're playing on. It's meant to save space on the drive as I understand it.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Doesn't that mean it's the same version of the game but everything just upscaled ? So not built completely for its perspective system i.e series X / one X ... Sounds the same as crossbuy to me really .

No. For example in case of the XSX you will download the higher quality textures compared to the Xbox One version. That's the first thing, that you download specifically for your system. Cross-Buy does this too, but the difference with Smart Delivery is that in case of Cross-Buy you got two different games.

Let's say you bought TLOU on your PS3, and it's also available on the PS4 via Cross-Buy. If you play on the PS3, and switch to your PS4, you have to start again, you don't have those save games, because they see it as a different game. In case of Smart delivery it's the exact same game but a different version, other assets and stuff like that. If you play Cyberpunk on the XSX in your living room, and then switch to your Xbox One in your bedroom you can pick up right where you left off.

 

[Demon2blades]

No. For example in case of the XSX you will download the higher quality textures compared to the Xbox One version. That's the first thing, that you download specifically for your system. Cross-Buy does this too, but the difference with Smart Delivery is that in case of Cross-Buy you got two different games.

Let's say you bought TLOU on your PS3, and it's also available on the PS4 via Cross-Buy. If you play on the PS3, and switch to your PS4, you have to start again, you don't have those save games, because they see it as a different game. In case of Smart delivery it's the exact same game but a different version, other assets and stuff like that. If you play Cyberpunk on the XSX in your living room, and then switch to your Xbox One in your bedroom you can pick up right where you left off.

So save games are the differential factor to crossbuy ? because two versions of the game say PS3 to PS4 would be different in Res and assets to the ps3 version so essentially the same but without the saves that's the vibe I'm getting from it all .

 

[hemo memo]

Consoles are becoming more and more like glorified PCs.
If things get dire for Microsoft they should just sell an usb hub and allow people to install Windows 10.

Cheap yet capable PC.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

So save games are the differential factor to crossbuy ? because two versions of the game say PS3 to PS4 would be different in Res and assets to the ps3 version so essentially the same but without the saves that's the vibe I'm getting from it all .

In a way yes. To explain it very simplistically as if it were folders on a harddrive.

Cross-Buy
--TLOU
----Playstation 3
------All Assets
------Savegame
----Playstation 4
------All Assets
------Savegame

Smart Delivery
--Valhalla
----Some Assets
----Savegame
----Xbox One
------Other assets
----XSX
------Other assets

 

[Demon2blades]

In a way yes. To explain it very simplistically as if it were folders on a harddrive.

Cross-Buy
--TLOU
----Playstation 3
------All Assets
------Savegame
----Playstation 4
------All Assets
------Savegame

Smart Delivery
--Valhalla
----Some Assets
----Savegame
----Xbox One
------Other assets
----XSX
------Other assets

decent explanation

 

[itsjustJEFF]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

The thing with "Smart Delivery" and "free upgrades" that's always confused me is that I thought it was always up to the publishers. That's their game, that is mostly their revenue right? Especially when it came to 3rd party games. 1st party games are a different thing all together. I'm not a publisher, but I wouldn't be surprised if EA/Ubisoft/Ativision are cool with doing the free upgrades cause most of their money will be made on PS4/One and not on the PS5/SeX. How long is that gonna last? I don't know, I'm not a publisher.

 

[Drewpee]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

Agreed, it would be a terrible look for Sony and 3rd party publishers to not embrace the change.

 

[HarryKS]

What the hell are you talking about? Until two years ago they created separate versions for Xbox 360 and PS3.

Who would buy the PS3 version if they have a PS4. At most, it could have an impact during the first year. But that's barely gonna be a good reason since the games they are talking about are releasing fall 2020, if you've read the article.

 

[cryptoadam]

Just gotta wonder if these are going to be next gen games.

When PS4 launched you could get BF3. If you got in on PS3 it was the 32 player variety and downgrade on graphics etc.... You paid a 10$ upgrade and got the PS4 version with 64 players.

So will they do the same thing, or just improve frames and res with a boost mode and call it the next gen version?

Like if you buy the game and it has no RT because its the PS4 version, when you get your free upgrade do you get the game with RT on it, or still the PS4 version just now it can run 60/4K.

 

[Azurro]

This is how I expect cross gen games to work. If a developer goes through with making a game that takes into account next Gen architecture, expect to have to pay for it. In this case, I doubt the developer would bother with a current Gen version.

Not necessarily, some publishers even did something similar with the PS4/Xbox launch, I know Ubisoft at least did it with Assassin's Creed 4, you could get a PS3 version and then upgrade it to PS4 when that launched.

Who would buy the PS3 version if they have a PS4. At most, it could have an impact during the first year. But that's barely gonna be a good reason since the games they are talking about are releasing fall 2020, if you've read the article.

It's more of a sales tactic during the launch period and for the people that intend to upgrade later. Some people might say "I want the game but I won't get it on PS4/XBO, I'll just wait until I get my PS5/XSX to get it", so this is the publishers way of nudging you into spending the money now, rather than wait and potentially forget about it.

 

[sainraja]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

Upgrade options were able to us from PS3 → PS4 as well. Many games I had purchased (PSN titles) on the PS3 were ready for me to download on the PS4. I think some other publishers were doing the same for a set period of time.

 

[Clintizzle]

Upgrade options were able to us from PS3 → PS4 as well. Many games I had purchased (PSN titles) on the PS3 were ready for me to download on the PS4. I think some other publishers were doing the same for a set period of time.

I'm still a little unsure of the difference between "free upgrades" vs "free next gen version of the same game"

 

[Lionel Richie]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

Some people got weirdly defensive when I mentioned they shouldn't have to double dip on TLOU or Sushi.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Good job completely missing the tone and context, you are every bit as dumb as your comments make you look.

Try to not get so emotional lol.

 

[Azurro]

I'm still a little unsure of the difference between "free upgrades" vs "free next gen version of the same game"

There is no difference. If a next gen version of an Xbox One game you own exists, when you play it on your XSX then it will download the XSX version and you'll play that instead. Given the EA comments, it should be the same on the PS5 with PS4 games if a PS5 version exists.

 

[DonF]

Same architecture is really not big a of deal in here, since you still have to make it work. You see it through the lens of Direct X, if you remember times before it it, you know, that even on same architecture is not that simple.

Yeah, but its simpler than previous gens (ps2 to ps3 and ps3 to ps4)

 

[DrScissorsMD]

Try to not get so emotional lol.

If you’re only response is to point out pretend emotions rather than actually address the points I originally raised I will happily take that as your conceit. If you feel like actually addressing the original points I’m all ears but otherwise, you have a nice day champ.

 

[CyRuZ]

Ea already did this with BF4 on PS3/4. If you bought it digitally on PS3 you could buy the PS4 version for 10€/$. Good to see some companies do it for free now. Activision also with Cod: Ghost. At least the only titles that I'm aware of.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

If you’re only response is to point out pretend emotions rather than actually address the points I originally raised I will happily take that as your conceit. If you feel like actually addressing the original points I’m all ears but otherwise, you have a nice day champ.

No thanks. Your post history speaks volumes. I wont waste my time and energy with you. Have a good day

 

[D.Final]

EA Comments On Free PS5 And Xbox Series X Game Upgrades

Some of EA's games will be available on PS5 and Xbox Series X with free upgrades, it seems.

www.gamespot.com

I'd hope for all the games

 

[Zerit0gi]

Signature request addressed to Jim Ryan for the Playstation 5 online to be free again ... and thus increase the online game of EA games

¿Tienes un minuto para ayudar a Maxi Ubiedo?

¡¡¡ONLINE GRATUITO EN PS4 SIN PS PLUS!!! ¿LOS MOTIVOS? MÁS QUE SUFICIENTES!!!

chng.it

 

[sol_bad]

Signature request addressed to Jim Ryan for the Playstation 5 online to be free again ... and thus increase the online game of EA games

¿Tienes un minuto para ayudar a Maxi Ubiedo?

¡¡¡ONLINE GRATUITO EN PS4 SIN PS PLUS!!! ¿LOS MOTIVOS? MÁS QUE SUFICIENTES!!!

chng.it

Why would Sony care about a 25k petition if they have 5 million PS+ subscribers?

I'd hope for all the games

I don't like the idea of the term "free upgrade" being used. It makes it sound like the publishers are doing us a favour.

Games should be the same as movies as far as I'm concerned. You buy a brand new release blu ray and it costs you $25 to $30, you buy the 4K version and it's $35 to $40 and it still comes with the standard blu ray release. Just do the same thing with video games. Buy the Xbone/PS4 version for $60 or buy the XSX/PS5 version for $70 and have it come with both versions.

If we are going to compare with movies though, blu rays came out initially for $35 to $40 each. So really, the Xbone/PS4 version of games should now have a price point of $50 and the XSX/PS5 games should be the $60 premium price tag.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why would Sony care about a 25k petition if they have 5 million PS+ subscribers?



I don't like the idea of the term "free upgrade" being used. It makes it sound like the publishers are doing us a favour.

Games should be the same as movies as far as I'm concerned. You buy a brand new release blu ray and it costs you $25 to $30, you buy the 4K version and it's $35 to $40 and it still comes with the standard blu ray release. Just do the same thing with video games. Buy the Xbone/PS4 version for $60 or buy the XSX/PS5 version for $70 and have it come with both versions.

If we are going to compare with movies though, blu rays came out initially for $35 to $40 each. So really, the Xbone/PS4 version of games should now have a price point of $50 and the XSX/PS5 games should be the $60 premium price tag.

You can also set it like a PC game and buy it once covering any PC rig from good to bad, as long as it meets certain min requirements.

 

[D.Final]

Why would Sony care about a 25k petition if they have 5 million PS+ subscribers?



I don't like the idea of the term "free upgrade" being used. It makes it sound like the publishers are doing us a favour.

Games should be the same as movies as far as I'm concerned. You buy a brand new release blu ray and it costs you $25 to $30, you buy the 4K version and it's $35 to $40 and it still comes with the standard blu ray release. Just do the same thing with video games. Buy the Xbone/PS4 version for $60 or buy the XSX/PS5 version for $70 and have it come with both versions.

If we are going to compare with movies though, blu rays came out initially for $35 to $40 each. So really, the Xbone/PS4 version of games should now have a price point of $50 and the XSX/PS5 games should be the $60 premium price tag.

I think "Free upgrade" means that you will potentially have access to a digital version of the game for nexgen.

Of course it would be nice if they adopted that system in a physical key, exactly as it happens with 4K movies, also giving you a standard copy of the BluRay DVD movie.
However, to make such an economic operation, the physical video game market is still too rigid and far too expensive to be able to carry out this process.
(obviously without automatically losing money)

Considering that the prices of today's games, at DayOne, as a standard start from 65/70$ more or less.
(differentiating by type of the game, Remastered, reissues, discounts, and price drops)

And if I see how the standard game packs don't even try to put the famous and ancient instruction booklets anymore.
(replaced by a standard instruction sheet)
Nor even try anymore to insert physical DVDs Demo for any Games.
(as it was customary to do in the very old generations, with the DVD versions of the Demos with a wide selection of games)
And however beautiful such a choice could be, I do not see how this operation is feasible at a purely economic level, if not by losing the general proceeds of that game.
(since that can still selling you the same game again in both consoles)
And where the only alternative variable would be to make Deluxe Edition of each single game, where they sell you the game both in current gen and nexgen versions, but with a base price of about $ 120 and more for gadgets.

And this is mainly because the market for physical video games is still subject to a general estimate of general overpricing, which has led to a significant increase in the prices of video games generation after generation.

In fact, I would not be surprised if the Nexgen games for PS5 and Xbox Series X, had a price per DayOne of even 80$ only the standard editions.
(price that in the PS3 and Xbox360 generation would have guaranteed you at least a deluxe edition)

 

[Muay Ninja]

I'll take a wild guess and say that it'll be only their Sports games and maybe Anthem.

Apex Legends will likely make the jump as per job listings on Respawns site.

 

[kruis]

I wish Sony would disclose whether forthcoming PS4 games are going to get a free PS5 upgrade or not.

I know the Blu-Ray disc of The Last of Us 2 will work on the PS5. But will it just run in full BC wiithout any additional features? Will it run at a higher frame rate? Higher quality textures? Will there be a separate PS5 Remastered Edition? Also, let's not forget that PS3 owners didn't even get a discount or upgrade possibility when the remastered version came out, they had to re-buy the game once again.

I'm not going to buy Last of Us 2 and Ghosts of Tsushima game for the PS4 unless these questions are answered. If the situation remains unclear, I'm going to wait for the launch of the PS5 and then make a decision.

 

[Tamy]

There you go.

Xbox Smart Delivery is not an Xbox exclusive feature. Everyone is going to do it. It would be silly not to.

nope. It’s not the same, it’s way worse actually, EA confirmed it:

EA's Madden 21 shuns Xbox Series X Smart Delivery upgrade, opting for limited-time offer

https://www.windowscentral.com/madden-nfl-21-shuns-xbox-series-x-smart-delivery-opting-limited-time-offer While Madden NFL 21 commits to free Xbox Series X upgrades, Electronic Arts never explicitly named Smart Delivery support. It appears the publisher distances itself from Microsoft's own...

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