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[Jtibh]

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So what? Give the benefit of the doubt and engage the opinion or just ignore the comment dude. Assuming they're an alt doesn't improve the discourse.

Sorry but there is a major problem with alts who just come here trolling on purpose baiting people etc.
Check the ban thread there was some talk about this today and yes 100 percent this is just another troll alt account.
Period

 

[MrA]

Are you 15? Go watch porn if you need something to jerk off too, Jesus Christ the last of us crying never ends.

so no mild titillation allowed, only ugly women or pornography (which has a good chance of a young woman actually being exploited) oh I get it, you respect video women, ogle all the real ones you want!

 

[iHaunter]

High quality thread OP. 0 Image comparisons or analysis.

 

[stickkidsam]

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Sorry but there is a major problem with alts who just come here trolling on purpose baiting people etc.
Check the ban thread there was some talk about this today and yes 100 percent this is just another troll alt account.
Period

I mean that's fair dude and if you suspect it's an alt then report it. I'm already tip toeing on "thread policing" so I'll just leave it there. I'm just worried about people creating a hostile environment towards those that have differing opinions. Saw that same crap from the PC police, claiming people were just alts because of their opinion and banning them.

 

[Jtibh]

I mean that's fair dude and if you suspect it's an alt then report it. I'm already tip toeing on "thread policing" so I'll just leave it there. I'm just worried about people creating a hostile environment towards those that have differing opinions. Saw that same crap from the PC police, claiming people were just alts because of their opinion and banning them.

I am would have never said anything hell i found it even funny.
But the moment i see post history etc i can tell what it is.
There were a few i called out and low and behold they got banned for trolling.

And lets be honest in my time being here i saw the uptick in these typenof comments and accounts ever since tlou2 debacle.

Its like they are really trying to double down and defend their agenda.

Free speech is a human given right but when one comes in here to shit post well i have a problem with that.

 

[Lethal01]

Even if you only look at realistic styled games in rough war filled setting the vast majority of female characters in the last 5 year look like feminine women that are sometimes a little tough..

Even when they are ripped they are usually still pretty.

And obviously if you play anything from asia they still make most of their characters look like super models.

 

[Fawst]

Sorry, but the ugly white cave troll with dreadlocks from Horizon and the teenage boys from TLOU 2 are not attractive women, Mr. Neo Member. I think you should head on back to resetera where you came from.

And you just named two gam

Hey. Its an alt account. Thats all i am getting at.
Not about his input.

Alt account, resetera ... you're way off. Whatever you want to tell yourself to feel better, feel free. I'm not gonna kink-shame.

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

I'm not sure why this even started to happen? Evolution of gaming shouldn't meant evolving females into men.

I think it comes down to the idea that masculinity = strong, femininity = weak, the misconception that in order for a female to be "strong" she has to cast aside her femininity and take on typically masculine traits. In game design this ends up resulting in masculine, or at best, androgenous female characters.

 

[DoctaThompson]

I think it comes down to the idea that masculinity = strong, femininity = weak, the misconception that in order for a female to be "strong" she has to cast aside her femininity and take on typically masculine traits. In game design this ends up resulting in masculine, or at best, androgenous female characters.

Very true, but being strong shouldn't result to only physical attributes, like what many devs have been doing. It's depressing

 

[Lethal01]

Very true, but being strong shouldn't result to only physical attributes, like what many devs have been doing. It's depressing

The characters that most people are complaining about are characters in scenarios where they would be strong physically as well as mentally.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Once guys stop pretending to be girls.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

When you go design one that you can jerk off to with pride, apparently.

I had a solid crack at this one with Vaseline Intensive Care, a box of wet wipes and an anal bead. I failed miserably. Fuck you Neil.

 

[DoctaThompson]

The characters that most people are complaining about are characters in scenarios where they would be strong physically as well as mentally.

Strength isn't everything though. There is cunning and many other attributes that can make someone stronger. How many boss fights out there make your character on par with the boss, on physical and health wise? Probably none. It's not always about strength to win a fight. Sometimes it's agility, smarts, conservation, etc.

Bayonetta didn't need to be muscular to whoop ass. Nor did many other female characters. But it's like now a days, female characters need to be more jacked than males in real life. That shit is cringey af. These females could make most guys the BOTTOM in the relationship. Not cool.

 

[Dacon]

I think game developers in the west just got caught up in modern trends, and were afraid of getting left behind, so they started catering to people who aren't really a significant part of their audience. I think that people are catching on to the fact that this stuff isn't as popular, and I expect going into the next generation less and less people will make stride to attempt to appeal to an audience that isn't really interested in their products to begin with.

Thankfully this is by no means a global phenomena, and in the meantime you can just play more japanese games that fit your taste in character design.

 

[DoctaThompson]

I think game developers in the west just got caught up in modern trends, and were afraid of getting left behind, so they started catering to people who aren't really a significant part of their audience. I think that people are catching on to the fact that this stuff isn't as popular, and I expect going into the next generation less and less people will make stride to attempt to appeal to an audience that isn't really interested in their products to begin with.

Thankfully this is by no means a global phenomena, and in the meantime you can just play more japanese games that fit your taste in character design.

I never understood that notion. Why appeal to the 3% of the population, who don't even play your games?! It's literally killing your core fans.

 

[Ten_Fold]

Western studios prefer male looking female characters, soo best stick to Japanese games. The dude who made Nier pretty much wanted 2B to be hot. I

 

[docbot]

thread hurts brain

 

[Danjin44]

Western studios prefer male looking female characters, soo best stick to Japanese games. The dude who made Nier pretty much wanted 2B to be hot. I

To me 2B and A2's design are more than just "hot", their design were very slick in my opinion. I don't think their design would this popular if they were just "hot". Akihiko Yoshida did great job with these designs.

 

[Dacon]

I never understood that notion. Why appeal to the 3% of the population, who don't even play your games?! It's literally killing your core fans.

A few years ago it seemed like feminism/social justice was spreading like wildfire and it was the hot new thing. I'm sure some people thought it was the future, and wanted to change with the times to not hurt their bottom line.

 

[Lethal01]

Strength isn't everything though.

The majority of characters that are being complained about right now are in situations where real physical strength would be a huge factor. Even the boss from met

Bayonetta didn't need to be muscular to whoop ass.

Bayonetta is a witch and uses magic. Not everyone wants to make games where you can use magic and superpowers as reasons why the girls can get past the physically demanding barriers they are dealing with without getting strong. Like I can tell myself tifa and cloud are using magic to beat 20 foot tall monsters but I still wish they put more meat on Tifa's bones.

female characters need to be more jacked than males in real life. That shit is cringy af. These females could make most guys the BOTTOM in the relationship. Not cool.

What female characters are you talking about? The majority are still quite feminine and don't look more muscular than someone trying to build some strength at the gym. I don't get why we are suddenly pretending the industry is over-run with big hulking she hulks.

There are a few examples of super-buff female characters but there are 100 more normal-looking ladies.


Also, physical strength got nothing to do with who's on top. If you're "making" someone bottom you're doing it wrong.

 

[Fawst]

Ugh, I can't edit my post above to remove the dreaded "saved draft" lol

There were a few i called out and low and behold they got banned for trolling.

*golf clap* I'm a new account. I never bothered to sign up back in the day, not that it matters. I joined recently when all the next-gen hype started up.

And lets be honest in my time being here i saw the uptick in these typenof comments and accounts ever since tlou2 debacle.

Its like they are really trying to double down and defend their agenda.

"double down and defend their agenda." What exactly do you think this OT even is if not defending an agenda?

Free speech is a human given right but when one comes in here to shit post well i have a problem with that.

Sorry, dad. Is there a difference between shitposting and shit-OT'ing? Like, do we need to make a distinction here?

The OT question is only slightly more ridiculous than the debate about game difficulty. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Want to play it? Get over your issues and play it. *shrug* But this barrage of opinions (here and elsewhere) bemoaning the death of the "male gaze" is ... well, it's pathetic for any number of reasons. Not the least of which is because it's simply not true. Are there less titillating female characters than before? Yes. Is there a lack of them? No. To say otherwise is simply being ignorant of reality.

"Is she sexy, though?" doesn't dictate my desire (or lack thereof) to play a game. The last thing on my mind when I'm deciding what to play is whether or not the protagonist is fuckable. And shocker! There's nothing wrong with "sexy" female characters! (That redhead posted on the first page from S. Korea or wherever is gorgeous.) What I do think is wrong is this strange notion that they all have to be.

 

[Clintizzle]

Someone start this thread in ReeeeeEra. Would be a good read.

 

[Jtibh]

Ugh, I can't edit my post above to remove the dreaded "saved draft" lol



*golf clap* I'm a new account. I never bothered to sign up back in the day, not that it matters. I joined recently when all the next-gen hype started up.



"double down and defend their agenda." What exactly do you think this OT even is if not defending an agenda?



Sorry, dad. Is there a difference between shitposting and shit-OT'ing? Like, do we need to make a distinction here?

The OT question is only slightly more ridiculous than the debate about game difficulty. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Want to play it? Get over your issues and play it. *shrug* But this barrage of opinions (here and elsewhere) bemoaning the death of the "male gaze" is ... well, it's pathetic for any number of reasons. Not the least of which is because it's simply not true. Are there less titillating female characters than before? Yes. Is there a lack of them? No. To say otherwise is simply being ignorant of reality.

"Is she sexy, though?" doesn't dictate my desire (or lack thereof) to play a game. The last thing on my mind when I'm deciding what to play is whether or not the protagonist is fuckable. And shocker! There's nothing wrong with "sexy" female characters! (That redhead posted on the first page from S. Korea or wherever is gorgeous.) What I do think is wrong is this strange notion that they all have to be.

Listen DUUUDDDE.
I give you a free pass but only cuz you dig demon souls.

 

[GobbledeeGoo]

Came in the thread for pictures, got the one from TLOU. Feel like outrage culture is in full effect.

 

[Casanova]

Yeah, sorry, but females (and males) come in all shapes and sizes, sexiness, beauty, height, weight, whatever. A sexy girl in a video game doesn't "resemble" women as a whole anymore than an "unsexy" one does because of those facts. Your opinion about what does and does not "resemble" womanhood is entirely subjective and silly.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It'll stop happening when western culture stop being wimps catering to the lowest, dumbest, ugliest person who knows how to use Twitter.

Where is this courage to tell assholes to get lost. It sure shows up during war time or when a Russian jet gets inside 1 mile of air space. Man the ships and tell them to beat it.

Western company and government
CSR: Hey boss, we got a complaint. The person says the packaging isn't purple enough
Boss: Holy shit! Get everyone in a board room, we might have to do a mass overhaul of the product or else that person will go on Twitter and threaten sales of a billion units where everyone else is ok with it

Non-Western company and government
CSR: Hey boss, we got a complaint. The person says the packaging isn't purple enough
Boss: Why are you telling me? You should have told them to fuck off and hung up

 

[TheAssist]

What the fuck is this thread????? Are you for real? How old are you people?

 

[Lethal01]

Came in the thread for pictures, got the one from TLOU. Feel like outrage culture is in full effect.

GIVE ME MORE BUFF. BUFF GIRLS ARE LIFE.

 

[Danjin44]

GIVE ME MORE BUFF. BUFF GIRLS ARE LIFE.

There you go.

 

[GobbledeeGoo]

GIVE ME MORE BUFF. BUFF GIRLS ARE LIFE.

Huh? That a joke? I assume they're just trying to give girls more depth than what they've had in the past.

Who the fuck pays that much attention to what a character looks like, male or female. It's a fucking videogame and has fuck all to do with the story or lore established. It's such a moot point.

 

[Paracelsus]

Huh? That a joke? I assume they're just trying to give girls more depth than what they've had in the past.

Who the fuck pays that much attention to what a character looks like, male or female. It's a fucking videogame and has fuck all to do with the story or lore established. It's such a moot point.

Character design is part of the appeal of a character, that's why in 18367 years everybody will remember Chris and Jill from RE1 and nobody will remember Ethan and Mia from RE7.
The same goes for movies.



The only thing having "realistic-looking" characters does is make them forgettable.

 

[slade]

See, threads like these pop up and I run over to Resetera to keep my Fox/CNN levels balanced. However, this time I ran right into one thread commenting about how MK11 had really great character models compared to MK9 b/c they covered up all the women. The first post even has Hijabi Skarlet. My people didn't put our women into Sari's just to have some camel herder (PBUH) mandate we cover them up.

Anyway, I ran right back over. Too much CNN for one night.

 

[Lethal01]

Huh? That a joke? I assume they're just trying to give girls more depth than what they've had in the past.

Who the fuck pays that much attention to what a character looks like, male or female. It's a fucking videogame and has fuck all to do with the story or lore established. It's such a moot point.

Did you mean to reply to me?

 

[Jtibh]

This thread needs some shemuscle

 

[Entroyp]

Luckily we have japanese games to scratch that itch. They have the opposite problem where men look too much like women but who cares I’m all about is the female eye candy.

 

[GobbledeeGoo]

Character design is part of the appeal of a character, that's why in 18367 years everybody will remember Chris and Jill from RE1 and nobody will remember Ethan and Mia from RE7.
The same goes for movies.



The only thing having "realistic-looking" characters does is make them forgettable.

We are taking about videogames and not movies. They're not comparable.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

My problem with those manly girls in videogames is less that they exist, it's more the agenda that is behind their existence.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

When the illuminati lizard people are done pushing their gay agenda and gender confusion. you'll see a full on homosexual bukkake where you play as the receiving participant, before you see some bouncing clevage in a western game.

Spoiler

You guys will still buy that shit too and mod your male character to look like Laura Croft

 

[Paracelsus]

We are taking about videogames and not movies. They're not comparable.

Why not? Character design has always been part of the art direction and the appeal of a game. Maybe not the most important part, but it depends on the game.
Some devs are going for the cinematic experience, they're scanning real people, they're pushing for a comparison to movies.

I mean, it's not like men are given a pass

 

[Geki-D]

Just play Japanese games.

 

[Screamer-RSA]

What the fuck is this thread????? Are you for real? How old are you people?

Ah the age old snide post. “REEE how dare you want T&A in a video game?!?!?! REEEEE!!!”

Well done, now fuckoff back to the other forum with your receipts.

 

[GobbledeeGoo]

Why not? Character design has always been part of the art direction and the appeal of a game. Maybe not the most important part, but it depends on the game.
Some devs are going for the cinematic experience, they're scanning real people, they're pushing for a comparison to movies.

I mean, it's not like men are given a pass

Character design is Important, of course. That doesn't mean make a generic pretty face. It applies to male models too, totally agreed. I'm for characters looking anyway, attractive or not. Just feels like people only get upset when it's a female model that isn't super attractive or attractive at all.

 

[Shrap]

No game has done female character models better than Detroit in my opinion. Probably because they are extremely accurate to the real life actresses and they were incredibly well modeled and animated.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

im playing Final Fantasy VII Remake. Japan is still doing fine work in this dept.

 

[Lethal01]

This thread needs some shemuscle

LETS GOOOOOO

 

[kiphalfton]

It's always funny when people think you need to defend ugly female polygons on the internet. Why do you hate attractive women? Do they make you sad because you realize you'll be alone forever because you're ugly inside and out?

I find it odd, as I know there are male video game characters that are better looking than me and/or built better than I ever will be. No fucks given.

Why SJW's feel the need to protect the image of females and try and tone it down makes no sense to me, especially when they themselves make a mockery of their gender with thei outlandish "style" and the way they look and act.

 

[GobbledeeGoo]

I find it odd, as I know there are male video game characters that are better looking than me and/or built better than I ever will be. No fucks given.

Why SJW's feel the need to protect the image of females and try and tone it down makes no sense to me, especially when they themselves make a mockery of their gender with thei outlandish "style" and the way they look and act.

Because a majority of them have White Knight syndrome and subconsciously think they're owed for it by women.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's always funny when people think you need to defend ugly female polygons on the internet. Why do you hate attractive women? Do they make you sad because you realize you'll be alone forever because you're ugly inside and out?

It's the way ugly people make themselves feel better. Their morale gets boosted if there's more ugly people out there.

Kind of like many poor people. For some, nothing makes them happier than a rich guy losing his shirt in the stock market bringing him down to his level.

It's a jealousy/envy thing.

Also, I'm 100% confident the majority of people on the net defending weird issues is because they want to get some internet brownie points thinking if they do it enough they can score a date out of it or exchange personal emails.

One thing you definitely don't see often...... good looking people complaining about good looking people in media. Aside from some celebrities trying to PR their way on Twitter for a career boost, I'm pretty all of us know some good looking guys and gals. Hell, you might be good looking yourself. Pretty sure very few of them criticize good looking or sexually appealing characters in the media.

If anything, most are probably like..... "Fuck ya. Nothing wrong with being good looking and loved"

 

[Slings and Arrows]

2B climbing a ladder. Gif

 

[radewagon]

I'm confident enough in my masculinity that I'm not bothered by women being portrayed in a variety of ways.

- Masculine women don't bother me.
- Lesbian women don't bother me.
- Women that are "not pretty" enough don't bother me.
- Strong women don't bother me.
- Women that wear clothes appropriate to their task don't bother me.
- Women with average proportions don't bother me.
- Women that don't fit within exploitative outmoded archetypes don't bother me.

And if they did, it still wouldn't matter because a majority of female characters in videogames are still designed to be attractive women not resembling men. Some of y'all can't see the forest for the trees.