MasterCornholio
Member
I'm playing through the trilogy right now. Still getting used to how old the 1st one feels.
Pretty interesting open world type mechanics in such an old game.
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I'm playing through the trilogy right now. Still getting used to how old the 1st one feels.
Pretty interesting open world type mechanics in such an old game.
ToadMan
Member
People who want to hate on Sony (or indeed MS when their time comes) will hate no matter what.
This presentation is for those who are perhaps hearing about next gen for the first time. If they’re blown away they’ll buy a PS5 And it’s games. If not, then they’re on the table for MS to hoover up.
The ones shouting abuse from the sidelines aren’t currently the target - they’ll fall into line when the games and their friends Land on a platform.
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Self High Five
Member
7 cars?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Would 2/3 be okay?
geordiemp
Member
Yes MS solution is better for cooling, I agree, but horribly in efficient use of power and silicon. Its just so last decade.
You do realise that MS is i think the only supplier of high end silicon components who are using fixed clocks for hardware this year.
Everyone has moved on. I predict the next Xbox will use this Smart shift / power envelope method. Every one will you get more performance per silicon cost.
You clearly are not a hardware design engineer are you, it shows, and have no appreciation of good design and engineering.
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jackets with pockets
Banned
8 cars, actually.
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ToadMan
Member
No because you’re not comparing like for like.
PCs aren’t consoles and shouldn’t be compared in this context. But anyway, PC gamers can upgrade their rigs and see a performance gain in the games they have.
Console players cannot unless the manufacturer makes that possible.
If a game is good, people will play it where it is - see Nintendo.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting better, but if better isn’t available, people will choose the games they want over a set of tech specs.
You mentioned 2 games that are great examples - both mulitplats so where you wish to play them is up to you. But you could’ve played those games on PS4 and had access to a better line up of exclusives.
When given that choice most would (and did) choose PS4.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
But did the person that uploaded it realise that...!?
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
I want HZD2 so bad. Don't personally care about the other two at all.
Imtjnotu
Member
You're such a fucking tease
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Rick Dangerous
Member
i 'm really pissed that sony buried motorstorm. I badly need pacific rim's true successor.
Among other ideas :
- warhawk
- einhander
Among other ideas :
- warhawk
- einhander
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
He definitely knows something we don't, I'm very curious now lol
kuncol02
Banned
I still think that Sony or AMD just overshoot with target clock and RDNA2 power efficiency. It wouldn't be first time for AMD. I still prefer AMD over Intel, but they proved many times, that they have tendency to over-promise on what they can deliver (basically all gpus from last 7 years, whole Bulldozer microarchitecture).
jackets with pockets
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Gediminas
Banned
my guess would be : GT7 gameplay , Bluepoint Remake game gameplay, Japan Studio game gameplay, Horizon developer's game trailer, Insomniac game trailer. + few game teasers.
what ever they will show, i would be happy. but i would be even happier if they would show PS5 box and game case of PS5 games.
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J_Gamer.exe
Member
Yeah a lot of people want MS to do an in-depth talk like Road to PS5. It's rumoured to be done in August in Hotchips. But they have a 'hardware' talk in second week of June as well. Let's see when they do it.
But this is the full quote from MS regarding I/O
I guess we wont know how much but in that statement it says 'it's less latent'.
Not an expert on latency... (LOL) but let's say for eg. the old method introduced 10ms of latency and this new method is 5ms.
If sony is claiming method is near instant or 100 times faster = 100 times faster that's basically lossless or as close as they can make it which as that dev analysis says is a very difficult goal to hit.
Again though with Microsofts lack of bragging in the io area I think that's tells us something.
If they were anywhere near in IO surely we'd have Greenberg posting pictures of Usain bolt...
BadBreathOfTheWild
Banned
PS5 doesn't throttle due to thermal load. That would never work for a console. You have failed to understand what targeting a fixed power-level actually does.
It's nothing to do with Sony's event. It's a scoop related to Sega that Famitsu magazine has, which will be out well before Sony's event.
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yewles1
Member
This dates back to the crossplay fiasco, doesn't it...I honestly do not want to derail this thread into a MS/Sony behind the scenes cat fighting.
I would rather watch people talk about what they think they are going to see come Thursday
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Vognerful
Member
because it really depends If these exclusives meets the consumer taste Nd whether having better exclusive is better for them than 1) keeping his purchases and games from previous generation 2) Playing better version of multi platforms.
I am going but personal here but my brothers and I owned ps1 to ps3. When this generation came in, I bought Xbox 1 in 2015 just to try it. I liked the games it had but was disappointed that it did not have as many exclusives as ps4. I am enjoying the game pass experience and what it offers and few of the exclusives that I was able to play. I reflect now and think that I did not play as many single player games as I used to.
last year 3 of my brothers bought ps4 to play together. they bought it bundled with many games like HZD and GoW. Non of them tried or run the games till this day. all they care about is playing PES or Warzone.
i Think I have TLOU and persona 5 on my ps3 but never bothered to run the games.
oh, I went on huge paragraph but what I mean many people don’t care about exclusives. I personally prefer to keep my investments in my Xbox and game pass is a huge value. Even playstation now is not supported in my country. if for exclusive, I could buy a ps4 to try the exclusives.
i have actually was considering building my PC instead of an Xbox but the cost difference is significant to consider.
Games impress me not tech demos.
Vognerful
Member
i wanted to add the following:
the price of upgrading your graphic card that it grants significant performance upgrade I almost the price of new console. So, price and performance difference they are very close.
And if I Buy ps5, then I will lock myself from my games, Xbox exclusives, game pass, etc. hell, I won’t be able to play my ps3 games even on ps5.
Classicrockfan
Banned
I hope if silent hill is announced akira yamaoka comes back to do the soundtrack.
I don’t Care about tech demos, they don’t impress me.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Uhu that's what he meant... And then he forgot to say that with the same calculation XSX is 15TF?
BGs
Industry Professional
When did I say that TF is more important than efficiency? If I have always defended efficiency above theoretical power (the numbers used in packaging). Are you talking about me or are you talking about what others have interpreted (good or bad) about my contributions? Because, as far as I know, I have never claimed that PS5 was going to have 13.8TF (neither GCN nor RDNA nor RDNA2). In any case perhaps you mean the 13.8TF that I have always mentioned as a clear joke that I had with some users. Maybe you didn't read those messages. It's possible. With so many messages it is difficult to keep track of these things and be left alone with what the masses interpret. It is much easier to accuse in a short message without first analyzing the original information or even asking me privately to know if you were shitting it or not. But I am sure your intentions were not bad. I forgive you.
Likewise, let us take advantage of the moment to break down the general theme and put each one in her place (so that each one feels alluded to in what she sees fit).
Let's see, the only thing I have stated about PS5 is that it was not 9.2TF. That was over 10TF. And that at one point in time it was more efficient based on the initial DevKits (which over time has been changing to one side and the other to the point that to this day I continue to defend that the final version of PS5 will continue to be more efficient). What does that mean? Well, with less you get more. And that's it.
I have also said good things about XSX (but those are easily forgotten from what I see).
What's wrong with assuming that one product is more revolutionary than another? It's reality. Why not admit it? What do they pay you?
And what is even worse, is that I am not supposed to talk about TFs in a thread called "Speculation / Analysis / Leaks" where all the time TFs are being talked about and little else. Well, no. There is much more, and that is what I have been trying to tell you since I arrived. That you stop the nonsense of the TFs. Everybody.
Another thing is that you like to talk about theoretical equivalences. Where certainly, if you want to talk about theoretical equivalences then ...
9.2 RDNA2 = 11.5 RDNA = 13.8 GCN
10.3 RDNA2 = 12.9 RDNA = 15.5 GCN
(In 3 months they will come saying that I have said that PS5 has + 15TF)
13.8 was a joke (which I said on different occasions, including the first time where I already said it was an EXAMPLE) based on the happy 9.2 that some loved so much. Since you will not expect me to skip the NDA, and less in a public forum.
And yes, for me it is legal to talk about GCN values when all the time you are trying to compare them with PC GPUs and trying to catalog them among the 20xx range. Well, if you want to make numerical equivalences, those exposed would be correct.
What you don't quite understand, and that you have been told a thousand times, is that you CANNOT COMPARE PEARS WITH APPLES. Not seriously. You have every right to do it, but it only serves to pass the time. You cannot compare PCs with Consoles. Never. Unless you do it for fun. Or to try to get an idea of something, but never to affirm anything serious. On PCs and consoles it does not work the same way. They are not exploited in the same way. They are not designed in the same way. They are not personalized in the same way. And they cannot be compared. If you want to do it, you are within your rights, but it is a waste of time.
Now let's go to reality, because talking about theoretical power is fine, but it is pure fantasy everywhere. And what Sony was looking for with PS5 was to make that fantasy come true. That dream". And it has succeeded, it has approached practically perfect efficiency points. Because, excuse me for saying, but did you really believe that the games took advantage of the full potential of your graphics cards? Obviously not, never. Surely it is a reality that some will not be able to bear when the time comes (seen what is seen). But let's be serious. I don't buy a product because of the number it says on the box. I buy a product because of how the games work on it. If you are one of the first, then you are deceived in life. And you know what? That maybe better like this, because that way you will be happier.
But the reality is that this is the theoretical reality. You may like it or not. But it is reality. And I tell you and all developers who touch the system tell you. PS5 is a revolution. And that revolution will have tangible results. Regardless of the TFs.
I will emphasize it for clarity. Saying that something is wonderful does not mean that the other is shit. Siemplente are different. But PS5 is different from everything seen so far and represents a change at all levels.
And forgive me for repeating it but apparently it seems necessary. I have said on countless occasions that theoretical power is NOT important / relevant, what matters is practical efficiency.
I repeat this because it seems that those conversations have been overlooked.
And to remind you that I do not come here to defend anything. I am not a shareholder in any company, and if it were not for the confinement you would still see me less around here. Which perhaps is what many want. So you would not have to assimilate the possible realities that I have come to put on the table. The data is what it is, the XSX GPU is more powerful in theoretical numbers, the results will be something else. Sometimes they will be better and sometimes they will be the same or worse. But I guess it's not what you want to read. And if some people do not like reality or are unable to accept it (which seems perfect to me) let everyone live in their reality. But if you are one of those I have nothing more to talk about because we would all be wasting our time, and I don't want you to waste your time reading directly to me (or indirectly through the interpretations of others). I prefer that you go to do other more interesting things such as perhaps accepting that what they sometimes sell you is not always relevant. NOT ALWAYS. ("not always" means sometimes yes and sometimes no). Or, for example, see the launch of SpaceX in 6 minutes. (https://www.spacex.com/launches/)
And by the way, I'm not the one obsessed with TFs. You always assume that only more TFs can impress you. Well, no. What is impressive about PS5 is not the TFs but many other things. And when I put that gif, what stunned me wasn't exactly the TFs. We developers are not impressed by TFs or GHZs. Logically against more better, but it does not have the relevance that you think. It shouldn't be a measuring stick.
I hope that what I have written has been of some use to you. At least I hope it serves to keep you distracted for the next few hours while I'm going to watch the launch of SpaceX if they don't cancel it again.
In any case do not suffer the others to which I have not yet responded. I will, you are not going to get rid, but I will when I have time. Later tomorrow or when you can.
Especially the response to
Bogroll
.Cheers
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
5 Days to go until Sony snaps their finger
HAL-01
Member
Then how are you disappointed before any games have been shown
Thirty7ven
Banned
The only thing that has ever mattered is performance.
Xbox talking heads wanted us to believe this was a bench press competition, but this is straight up American Ninja Warrior son. It's cross-fit it ain't just deadlift.
Xbox talking heads wanted us to believe this was a bench press competition, but this is straight up American Ninja Warrior son. It's cross-fit it ain't just deadlift.
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Lethal01
Member
You said what they "promised" wasn't impressive. this isn't about whether you like tech demos or not, your claim was that even if games look like the tech demo you would not be impressed.
So again, what would it take to impress you, you are saying they promised that games that look as technically impressive as the demo and you aren't impressed by that level.
how much better would the tech demo(which is a promise) need to look.
Neo Blaster
Member
Can pre-orders open without a price? I really doubt we'll know it Thursday, expecting just games and form factor. Features, UI and price may come in that August SoP.
kuncol02
Banned
Rather you failed on reading comprehension.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Scorn Dev Reassures Xbox Fans on Unreal Engine 5, Says Raytracing Will Be Used on Case-by-Case Basis
The developer of Scorn reassured Xbox fans after that Unreal Engine 5 PS5 demo. He also said raytracing won't be ubiquitous.
wccftech.com
Scorn dev talks RT, says will be used on case by case basis with UE5.
there are more next gen console quotes but I’m on my phone, kinda hard to navigate
Kusarigama
Member
You be you, I do not have the time for repeating what he said.
Thirty7ven
Banned
I think the point is that a system like this would allow the XSX to have higher performance than it has. Are you arguing that it wouldn't?
SSfox
Member
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Oh man.....You've heard rumblings of HZD2 and GT7 (sorry Socom fans)? Please be true!
HAL-01
Member
BGs has had ENOUGH of the bs
When did I say that TF is more important than efficiency? If I have always defended efficiency above theoretical power (the numbers used in packaging). Are you talking about me or are you talking about what others have interpreted (good or bad) about my contributions? Because, as far as I know, I have never claimed that PS5 was going to have 13.8TF (neither GCN nor RDNA nor RDNA2). In any case perhaps you mean the 13.8TF that I have always mentioned as a clear joke that I had with some users. Maybe you didn't read those messages. It's possible. With so many messages it is difficult to keep track of these things and be left alone with what the masses interpret. It is much easier to accuse in a short message without first analyzing the original information or even asking me privately to know if you were shitting it or not. But I am sure your intentions were not bad. I forgive you.
Likewise, let us take advantage of the moment to break down the general theme and put each one in her place (so that each one feels alluded to in what she sees fit).
Let's see, the only thing I have stated about PS5 is that it was not 9.2TF. That was over 10TF. And that at one point in time it was more efficient based on the initial DevKits (which over time has been changing to one side and the other to the point that to this day I continue to defend that the final version of PS5 will continue to be more efficient). What does that mean? Well, with less you get more. And that's it.
I have also said good things about XSX (but those are easily forgotten from what I see).
What's wrong with assuming that one product is more revolutionary than another? It's reality. Why not admit it? What do they pay you?
And what is even worse, is that I am not supposed to talk about TFs in a thread called "Speculation / Analysis / Leaks" where all the time TFs are being talked about and little else. Well, no. There is much more, and that is what I have been trying to tell you since I arrived. That you stop the nonsense of the TFs. Everybody.
Another thing is that you like to talk about theoretical equivalences. Where certainly, if you want to talk about theoretical equivalences then ...
9.2 RDNA2 = 11.5 RDNA = 13.8 GCN
10.3 RDNA2 = 12.9 RDNA = 15.5 GCN
(In 3 months they will come saying that I have said that PS5 has + 15TF)
13.8 was a joke (which I said on different occasions, including the first time where I already said it was an EXAMPLE) based on the happy 9.2 that some loved so much. Since you will not expect me to skip the NDA, and less in a public forum.
And yes, for me it is legal to talk about GCN values when all the time you are trying to compare them with PC GPUs and trying to catalog them among the 20xx range. Well, if you want to make numerical equivalences, those exposed would be correct.
What you don't quite understand, and that you have been told a thousand times, is that you CANNOT COMPARE PEARS WITH APPLES. Not seriously. You have every right to do it, but it only serves to pass the time. You cannot compare PCs with Consoles. Never. Unless you do it for fun. Or to try to get an idea of something, but never to affirm anything serious. On PCs and consoles it does not work the same way. They are not exploited in the same way. They are not designed in the same way. They are not personalized in the same way. And they cannot be compared. If you want to do it, you are within your rights, but it is a waste of time.
Now let's go to reality, because talking about theoretical power is fine, but it is pure fantasy everywhere. And what Sony was looking for with PS5 was to make that fantasy come true. That dream". And it has succeeded, it has approached practically perfect efficiency points. Because, excuse me for saying, but did you really believe that the games took advantage of the full potential of your graphics cards? Obviously not, never. Surely it is a reality that some will not be able to bear when the time comes (seen what is seen). But let's be serious. I don't buy a product because of the number it says on the box. I buy a product because of how the games work on it. If you are one of the first, then you are deceived in life. And you know what? That maybe better like this, because that way you will be happier.
But the reality is that this is the theoretical reality. You may like it or not. But it is reality. And I tell you and all developers who touch the system tell you. PS5 is a revolution. And that revolution will have tangible results. Regardless of the TFs.
I will emphasize it for clarity. Saying that something is wonderful does not mean that the other is shit. Siemplente are different. But PS5 is different from everything seen so far and represents a change at all levels.
And forgive me for repeating it but apparently it seems necessary. I have said on countless occasions that theoretical power is NOT important / relevant, what matters is practical efficiency.
I repeat this because it seems that those conversations have been overlooked.
And to remind you that I do not come here to defend anything. I am not a shareholder in any company, and if it were not for the confinement you would still see me less around here. Which perhaps is what many want. So you would not have to assimilate the possible realities that I have come to put on the table. The data is what it is, the XSX GPU is more powerful in theoretical numbers, the results will be something else. Sometimes they will be better and sometimes they will be the same or worse. But I guess it's not what you want to read. And if some people do not like reality or are unable to accept it (which seems perfect to me) let everyone live in their reality. But if you are one of those I have nothing more to talk about because we would all be wasting our time, and I don't want you to waste your time reading directly to me (or indirectly through the interpretations of others). I prefer that you go to do other more interesting things such as perhaps accepting that what they sometimes sell you is not always relevant. NOT ALWAYS. ("not always" means sometimes yes and sometimes no). Or, for example, see the launch of SpaceX in 6 minutes. (https://www.spacex.com/launches/)
And by the way, I'm not the one obsessed with TFs. You always assume that only more TFs can impress you. Well, no. What is impressive about PS5 is not the TFs but many other things. And when I put that gif, what stunned me wasn't exactly the TFs. We developers are not impressed by TFs or GHZs. Logically against more better, but it does not have the relevance that you think. It shouldn't be a measuring stick.
I hope that what I have written has been of some use to you. At least I hope it serves to keep you distracted for the next few hours while I'm going to watch the launch of SpaceX if they don't cancel it again.
In any case do not suffer the others to which I have not yet responded. I will, you are not going to get rid, but I will when I have time. Later tomorrow or when you can.
Especially the response to
Cheers
Thedtrain
Member
So long as 1 of them is socom
I’m kidding, hell yes 2 of those 3 would be gloriousDoes this info have to do purely with Sony or both consoles? If only 1 maybe it can be released in a way that is not likely to cause conflict. I am probably just dreaming though.I honestly do not want to derail this thread into a MS/Sony behind the scenes cat fighting.
I would rather watch people talk about what they think they are going to see come Thursday
FranXico
Member
2 out of 3 would be ok.
Just some evening musings, I assume?
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Would you consider yourself unbiased when comparing the next gen consoles?
When did I say that TF is more important than efficiency? If I have always defended efficiency above theoretical power (the numbers used in packaging). Are you talking about me or are you talking about what others have interpreted (good or bad) about my contributions? Because, as far as I know, I have never claimed that PS5 was going to have 13.8TF (neither GCN nor RDNA nor RDNA2). In any case perhaps you mean the 13.8TF that I have always mentioned as a clear joke that I had with some users. Maybe you didn't read those messages. It's possible. With so many messages it is difficult to keep track of these things and be left alone with what the masses interpret. It is much easier to accuse in a short message without first analyzing the original information or even asking me privately to know if you were shitting it or not. But I am sure your intentions were not bad. I forgive you.
Likewise, let us take advantage of the moment to break down the general theme and put each one in her place (so that each one feels alluded to in what she sees fit).
Let's see, the only thing I have stated about PS5 is that it was not 9.2TF. That was over 10TF. And that at one point in time it was more efficient based on the initial DevKits (which over time has been changing to one side and the other to the point that to this day I continue to defend that the final version of PS5 will continue to be more efficient). What does that mean? Well, with less you get more. And that's it.
I have also said good things about XSX (but those are easily forgotten from what I see).
What's wrong with assuming that one product is more revolutionary than another? It's reality. Why not admit it? What do they pay you?
And what is even worse, is that I am not supposed to talk about TFs in a thread called "Speculation / Analysis / Leaks" where all the time TFs are being talked about and little else. Well, no. There is much more, and that is what I have been trying to tell you since I arrived. That you stop the nonsense of the TFs. Everybody.
Another thing is that you like to talk about theoretical equivalences. Where certainly, if you want to talk about theoretical equivalences then ...
9.2 RDNA2 = 11.5 RDNA = 13.8 GCN
10.3 RDNA2 = 12.9 RDNA = 15.5 GCN
(In 3 months they will come saying that I have said that PS5 has + 15TF)
13.8 was a joke (which I said on different occasions, including the first time where I already said it was an EXAMPLE) based on the happy 9.2 that some loved so much. Since you will not expect me to skip the NDA, and less in a public forum.
And yes, for me it is legal to talk about GCN values when all the time you are trying to compare them with PC GPUs and trying to catalog them among the 20xx range. Well, if you want to make numerical equivalences, those exposed would be correct.
What you don't quite understand, and that you have been told a thousand times, is that you CANNOT COMPARE PEARS WITH APPLES. Not seriously. You have every right to do it, but it only serves to pass the time. You cannot compare PCs with Consoles. Never. Unless you do it for fun. Or to try to get an idea of something, but never to affirm anything serious. On PCs and consoles it does not work the same way. They are not exploited in the same way. They are not designed in the same way. They are not personalized in the same way. And they cannot be compared. If you want to do it, you are within your rights, but it is a waste of time.
Now let's go to reality, because talking about theoretical power is fine, but it is pure fantasy everywhere. And what Sony was looking for with PS5 was to make that fantasy come true. That dream". And it has succeeded, it has approached practically perfect efficiency points. Because, excuse me for saying, but did you really believe that the games took advantage of the full potential of your graphics cards? Obviously not, never. Surely it is a reality that some will not be able to bear when the time comes (seen what is seen). But let's be serious. I don't buy a product because of the number it says on the box. I buy a product because of how the games work on it. If you are one of the first, then you are deceived in life. And you know what? That maybe better like this, because that way you will be happier.
But the reality is that this is the theoretical reality. You may like it or not. But it is reality. And I tell you and all developers who touch the system tell you. PS5 is a revolution. And that revolution will have tangible results. Regardless of the TFs.
I will emphasize it for clarity. Saying that something is wonderful does not mean that the other is shit. Siemplente are different. But PS5 is different from everything seen so far and represents a change at all levels.
And forgive me for repeating it but apparently it seems necessary. I have said on countless occasions that theoretical power is NOT important / relevant, what matters is practical efficiency.
I repeat this because it seems that those conversations have been overlooked.
And to remind you that I do not come here to defend anything. I am not a shareholder in any company, and if it were not for the confinement you would still see me less around here. Which perhaps is what many want. So you would not have to assimilate the possible realities that I have come to put on the table. The data is what it is, the XSX GPU is more powerful in theoretical numbers, the results will be something else. Sometimes they will be better and sometimes they will be the same or worse. But I guess it's not what you want to read. And if some people do not like reality or are unable to accept it (which seems perfect to me) let everyone live in their reality. But if you are one of those I have nothing more to talk about because we would all be wasting our time, and I don't want you to waste your time reading directly to me (or indirectly through the interpretations of others). I prefer that you go to do other more interesting things such as perhaps accepting that what they sometimes sell you is not always relevant. NOT ALWAYS. ("not always" means sometimes yes and sometimes no). Or, for example, see the launch of SpaceX in 6 minutes. (https://www.spacex.com/launches/)
And by the way, I'm not the one obsessed with TFs. You always assume that only more TFs can impress you. Well, no. What is impressive about PS5 is not the TFs but many other things. And when I put that gif, what stunned me wasn't exactly the TFs. We developers are not impressed by TFs or GHZs. Logically against more better, but it does not have the relevance that you think. It shouldn't be a measuring stick.
I hope that what I have written has been of some use to you. At least I hope it serves to keep you distracted for the next few hours while I'm going to watch the launch of SpaceX if they don't cancel it again.
In any case do not suffer the others to which I have not yet responded. I will, you are not going to get rid, but I will when I have time. Later tomorrow or when you can.
Especially the response to
Cheers
Gamernyc78
Banned
Welcome to GAF! Just be sure to have your parachute ready in case the train gets derailed accidentally.
We will crash and burn in 4k glory at the speed of light
J_Gamer.exe
Member
It depends if some are going to be silly.
I suppose anything is 'possible'. A flying part in amazing quality with ultra levels of detail and high speed on ps5 could be on the ps4 but with a low res, low assets and low framrate and with cheats like mist so we dont see all the stuff loading in.
But yes realistically not possible at anywhere near that level.
It's a bit like that UE5 demo, scaled back its technically possible on way less capable hardware but might look like a mobile game.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Best gaming exec persona wise hands down and an avid, real gamer.
kuncol02
Banned
Probably (there is chance, that RDNA2 with that many cores is unstable with higher clock). With price of more unpredictable performance and GPU feeding on CPU power (chances of developers choosing CPU over GPU are as big as for Horizon 2 being XBox exclusive). I still want to know how low PS5 clocks go. Especially CPU, because GPU clocks they given us are very high judging by current generation of RDNA cards (much closer to maximum overclock range than base clocks).
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