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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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IF that was supposed to be a hidden shot or jab at me. You completely missed. I sent @Mod of War a copy of the conversation. My picture is also Of Daredevil aka Matt Murdock or of you want Matt Murdock aka Daredevil.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) will launch PlayStation®5 (PS5™) in several countries in the holiday season of 2020 and will make PlayStation®5 (PS5™) available in North America on November 20, 2020 at a recommended retail price (RRP) of $499 <a href="https://t.co/fe4jKlHmrH">pic.twitter.com/fe4jKlHmrH</a></p>&mdash; Iron Man (@IronManPS5) <a href="">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) will launch PlayStation®5 (PS5™) in several countries in the holiday season of 2020 and will make PlayStation®5 (PS5™) available in North America on November 20, 2020 at a recommended retail price (RRP) of $499 <a href="https://t.co/fe4jKlHmrH">pic.twitter.com/fe4jKlHmrH</a></p>&mdash; Iron Man (@IronManPS5) <a href="">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Oh I get it now. LoL. I apologize I thought it was a reference to me when I post there is talk of Sony Postponing the PS5 event. Please accept my Apology.
 
Oh I get it now. LoL. I apologize I thought it was a reference to me when I post there is talk of Sony Postponing the PS5 event. Please accept my Apology.

Nope I've been making fun of this guy on twitter for the longest time.

Nothing to do with you. And when I do criticize people on GaF I'm direct about it.

Anyways I accept your apology.
 
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I’ll have to go back and find out which video he said it in, as you may already know his podcasts go on for like 2-3 hours and he mentions a lot of stuff. I’ll try digging it out. But my point still stands, he has a history of passing off recycled or already known info claiming he has heard it from sources.
My friend, do not waste your time on this.

That video does not exist because he never claimed to have "inside source" about "HZD 2 having a higher polygon/triangle than all the characters and monsters in the previous game combined" as you said.

Here is what he really says about that: he says it is a "rumor"

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PS. Sorry. You point cant stand if you present a false premise/information.
 
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3liteDragon

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I did the search and got this

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When you think there's only one sexy Cerny in the world...
*sigh* I'll be back on in 10 mins guys
 
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Three Jackdaws

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My friend, do not waste your time on this.

That video does not exist because he never claimed to have "inside source" about "HZD 2 having a higher polygon/triangle than all the characters and monsters in the previous game combined" that you claim.

Here is what he really say about that:

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There is no link bro?

EDIT: got it!
 
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I get that there are protests. but what has gaming to do with it? and Sonys audience is worldwide. I dont care for american politics.

If Sony does decide to delay this...

It's going to be 100% about the business and will have nothing to do with supporting any movement, although they will say it's because of that. In reality, they don't want their event overshadowed by everything else.

They should just stick with the course. They have a date, they announced it in advance, it's not some live E3 showing in downtown LA....it's being broadcast on the internet.

Delaying would be massively stupid.
 
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Three Jackdaws

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My friend, do not waste your time on this.

That video does not exist because he never claimed to have "inside source" about "HZD 2 having a higher polygon/triangle than all the characters and monsters in the previous game combined" as you said.

Here is what he really says about that:

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PS. Sorry. You point cant stand if you present a false premise/information.

I see. I take that part back.
And no my point still stands since I presented multiple premises and only one being false. The other was him saying that the PS5 CPU had a unified cache and that he was “told” the Series X may have it as well. Also that this doesn’t mean PS5 has Zen 3 but will have Zen 3 features. If you watch that segment again he very clearly recycled what RedGamingTech said in his video, who was the original source for that leak.
 
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HAL-01

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If Sony does decide to delay this...

It's going to be 100% about the business and will have nothing to do with supporting any movement, although they will say it's because of that. In reality, they don't want their event overshadowed by everything else.

They should just stick with the course. They have a date, they announced it in advance, it's not some live E3 showing in downtown LA....it's being broadcast on the internet.

Delaying would be massively stupid.
Protests have been on the up and up for the last few days, unless they get somehow resolved by tuesday it will most likely be delayed. World events like this always take priority, thats just how it is.
I do hope they get resolved soon but it doesnt seem like theyre being handled well
 

HawarMiran

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If Sony does decide to delay this...

It's going to be 100% about the business and will have nothing to do with supporting any movement, although they will say it's because of that. In reality, they don't want their event overshadowed by everything else.

They should just stick with the course. They have a date, they announced it in advance, it's not some live E3 showing in downtown LA....it's being broadcast on the internet.

Delaying would be massively stupid.
ofcourse it is PR... I am the quickest gun in the wild west. Don't worry
 
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I see. I take that part back.

And no my point still stands since I presented multiple premises and only one being false. The other was him saying that the PS5 CPU had a unified cache and that he was “told” the Series X may have it as well. Also that this doesn’t mean PS5 has Zen 3 but will have Zen 3 features. If you watch that segment again he very clearly recycled what RedGamingTech said in his video, who was the the original source for that leak.
Thank you for acknowledging it.

My friend, you got that part wrong too. We have already talked about it here a few weeks back so there is not point to back there again.

But I do respect you dont trust the guy. I do, 99%.

He claims that Marvell is doing the PS5 storage System.

We will see if he is right or not.

Peace :messenger_heart:
 
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SlimySnake

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I have a question. All these devs telling numerous journalists that the ps5 is this amazing console, and yet Digital Foundry has heard no such thing.

the only thing they got from devs was that its cpu was being downclocked in order to run the gpu at 2.23 ghz.

you would think DF of all people would have devs feeding them these impressions.
 
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Three Jackdaws

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Thank you for acknowledging it.

My friend, you got that part wrong too. We have already talked about it here a few weeks back so there is not point to back there again.

But I do respect you dont trust the guy. I do, 99%.

He claims that Marvel is doing the PS5 storage System.

We will see if he is right or not.

Peace :messenger_heart:
I agree. ✌

But that does remind me, didn’t he claim he had a picture of the Marvel SSD controller or something for the PS5 which he put on the thumbnail for one of his videos?

Edit: I was looking at his Twitter and he stated not to look at those thumbnail pictures because they were placeholders. But I remember you guys were discussing something about this on the thread a few weeks ago.
 
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ethomaz

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I have a question. All these devs telling numerous journalists that the ps5 is this amazing console, and yet Digital Foundry has heard no such thing.

the only thing they got from devs was that its cpu was being downclocked in order to run the gpu at 2.23 ghz.

you would think DF of all people would have devs feeding them these impressions.
Actually DF says the devs choose a profile that downclock the CPU because their engine are made to run on Jaguar cores so they didn’t load the CPU at all.

It has nothing to do with the GPU running at 2.23Ghz.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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How the heck do you leave anything more than a 'like 👍' on someone post that you mighty like/agree with/find funny/or just intriguing ??
That is the only option I get is 'like 👍', am I missing something or need to upgrade my membership... or something?
I have options on my iPad, but if I’m on my PC I can only do thumbs up.

On PC, don't click, put the pointer on the like, then a window will open half a second later with the options.

On phones, hold on it until it opens the options.
 
I agree. ✌

But that does remind me, didn’t he claim he had a picture of the Marvel SSD controller or something for the PS5 which he put on the thumbnail for one of his videos?
My God man. Again? :messenger_grinning_sweat:

No, he did not claim that neither.

That "claim" was posted for a neo user here. That matter was referred to the mods and even MoW edited the original post to delete that fake part.

YOU CAN CHECK THE HISTORY OF THIS THREAD.


You made your point about how you dislike the guy but you really need to be a bit more accurate to present your arguments. We are wasting our time here.

Lets move on.
 
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I have a question. All these devs telling numerous journalists that the ps5 is this amazing console, and yet Digital Foundry has heard no such thing.

the only thing they got from devs was that its cpu was being downclocked in order to run the gpu at 2.23 ghz.

you would think DF of all people would have devs feeding them these impressions.

Digital Foundry really doesn't have a whole lot of industry clout / inside knowledge.

Their claim to fame is basically having some relationship with Microsoft for certain things. I really don't believe they have any legitimate developer sources that are willing to talk to them outside of that.
 
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Three Jackdaws

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My God man. Again? No, he did not claim that neither.

That "claim" was posted for a neo user here. That matter was referred to the mods and even MoW edited the original post to delete that fake part.

YOU CAN CHECK THE HISTORY OF THIS THREAD.


You made your point about how you dislike the guy but you really need to be a bit more accurate to present your arguments. We are wasting our time here.

Lets move on.
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If you want to move then maybe try not calling me out in a patronising way.

My arguments are presented fine, your only comeback seems to be that the information and leaks he comes out with were already known but they clearly weren’t, especially since some of them ONLY came from RedGamingTech.

If he wants to present “leaks” on the next-gen consoles you best believe I and others will attempt to verify the information he comes out with. This is a next-gen discussion thread of course. We don’t want a repeat of what happened with this thread pre-Cerny talk because people on this thread were too gullible, including me.

This discussion is past being productive. So this is the last time I’ll discuss it with people who get too emotional over such nonsense.
You have presented 3 arguments.

2 are fakes. SEE ABOVE!

The other one is ill founded and wrong.
We (you and me) have talked about it in this thread already but today you brought it back and I am not going to repeat myself.

You can spread all the bullshit you want, it is still wrong.

I have been fucking polite in my replies to your FAKE ARGUMENTS but this goodwill is over.
 
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What in the holy hell. WHY! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
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I have a question. All these devs telling numerous journalists that the ps5 is this amazing console, and yet Digital Foundry has heard no such thing.

the only thing they got from devs was that its cpu was being downclocked in order to run the gpu at 2.23 ghz.

you would think DF of all people would have devs feeding them these impressions.
I trust in guys like John and Richard (Alex only when talk about games in PC) but yeah I also have the same question.

I mean is probably Sony had problem is maintain its clocks for the first versions of the dev kit but is not logic to think than
something you heard from a third dev in an early phase of the dev kits still be true later.

I am thinking they just specially Ricard are sceptic about if the bandwidth and other stuff in PS5 is relevant as other dev said so for this reason he
won't repeat when they heard something similar.

I mean is okay if you don't want to repeat something good before you see it with your eyes the problem is when one of the members love to
insist than the SSD will not improve nothing related to the graphics (you know who) and then saw the demo of Epic and saw that was not true.

I mean its analisis are the best we have but any of this guys is a dev currently working in the industry for AAA game so one thing is analize other
is believe you understand the dev kits from both sides without even work in them.

Any person is bias doesn't matter what but when one the biggest companies in the world invited by second time to reveal its new console paid all
related to you travel and the other only give an interview with its Architect is probably you without intention make you see better one side and believe
more easily all the good stuff from one side.

Like believe without question from part of Richard than have games created for two generations of consoles will not affect the goals of each first party
(John was not agree) while you ask the uncomfortable questions to the other side, remember he asked to Cerny about the minimum clock number if
a heavy workload happens for long period of time, Cerny replied that kind of workload is not realistic and doesn't exists even in PS4, I don't know why
Richard ask that question if already should know that kind of workload are far to be common even in AAA game.

Other example of that is the demo of Gears 5 in XSX DF believe 100% that demo was exactly as Xbox said, a demo with higher settings than ultra in pc
running even with RT running to 60 fps but instead you doubt when Epic says that level of fidelity was only possible in PS5 for the architecture of the SSD/IO.

Note: I remember when Alex said in all certainty that the framerate could not be released in the viewport of Unreal, I almost fall of my chair
laughing when I read that, any person who works with Unreal Engine knows how to release that limit of framerate but looks like Alex only run tech demos
in his PC.
 
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Digital Foundry really doesn't have a whole lot of industry clout / inside knowledge.

Their claim to fame is basically having some relationship with Microsoft for certain things. I really don't believe they have any legitimate developer sources that are willing to talk to them outside of that.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm guessing some devs probably don't appreciate DF picking apart their work and pointing out every flaw, basically fueling console wars and making their work harder.
 

FeiRR

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Protests have been on the up and up for the last few days, unless they get somehow resolved by tuesday it will most likely be delayed. World events like this always take priority, thats just how it is.
I do hope they get resolved soon but it doesnt seem like theyre being handled well
Nothing stops "world events" from happening if those bad things occur outside of the USA. I don't want to start on politics, just an observation.
 
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French caption reads "Do we finally have design leak. Ps5 design with what appears to be silhouette of Jim Ryan on the bottom right corner?" Sorry if the translation is bit off my French is rusty.
Yeah I read the translation, I’m not sure though
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definitely looks like Shuhei Yoshida not Jim Ryan. Also console colour and overall aesthetic does not match the Dualsense controller deisgn🤔.
 
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HAL-01

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Was this posted?

Thats super fake. If you were a set designer you'd be fired for placing two spotlights aimed at nothing shining directly into the camera, and obstructing the screen.
Plus if you look at the floor you will see 3 lights reflected, however the biggest reflection in the middle comes from nowhere, as the original content of the screen was replaced with a fake ps5
 

MrPotato

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Thats super fake. If you were a set designer you'd be fired for placing two spotlights aimed at nothing shining directly into the camera, and obstructing the screen.
Plus if you look at the floor you will see 3 lights reflected, however the biggest reflection in the middle comes from nowhere, as the original content of the screen was replaced with a fake ps5
Tidux(yes that "insider") is claiming on Twitter that this is not real.
 
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