Bullet Club
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Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Fuck yes
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MVG: Is it time for the Nintendo Switch to get an upgrade?
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Long answer: Fuck yes
carlosrox
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I'm technically happy with my Switch but I am always down for more power.
If we have to wait for Switch 2 but if it has the power of a PS4 or more I'd be fine with it. Only a couple more years to go.
Switch is still selling very well and there hasn't even been a price drop yet so I dunno if Nintendo sees the urge quite yet.
If it were up to me we woulda had a Pro already.
If we have to wait for Switch 2 but if it has the power of a PS4 or more I'd be fine with it. Only a couple more years to go.
Switch is still selling very well and there hasn't even been a price drop yet so I dunno if Nintendo sees the urge quite yet.
If it were up to me we woulda had a Pro already.
Mypmarlo
Banned
The only way to update it is to use TegraX2 with couple of gigs of additional memory.
It will give it 1/3 more performance n 2 times faster memory speed while being fully compatible with the old Switch.
If they are to release it.. They probably ll do it fall 2021.
As far as Switch 2 goes... It is gonna be a while cos it need to be able to handle ports from Next Gen and there are no mobile CPU or storage solutions that can handle this for at the very least next 3-4 years.
It probably be highly custom Nvidia chip made specifically for Nintendo.
I expect Switch 2 somewhere around 2024 for 400$ price.
It will give it 1/3 more performance n 2 times faster memory speed while being fully compatible with the old Switch.
If they are to release it.. They probably ll do it fall 2021.
As far as Switch 2 goes... It is gonna be a while cos it need to be able to handle ports from Next Gen and there are no mobile CPU or storage solutions that can handle this for at the very least next 3-4 years.
It probably be highly custom Nvidia chip made specifically for Nintendo.
I expect Switch 2 somewhere around 2024 for 400$ price.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Enthusiasts would say yes, but does that even matter for the Switch's core demographic?
Ulysses 31
Member
Nintendo: "Nah, Switch's selling better than ever."
Bullet Club
Member
People that already have a Switch will buy the new one plus people getting it for the first time will get it. Win-win!
iconmaster
Banned
Switch Pro, any day now
EightBit Man
Member
If it is going to be portable, it will also mean less battery-life. I'd rather see a more powerful and screen-less one for use on television. Pro Controller, and voila...a solid home console.
MisterBrimstone
Member
For those in the know, what is arguably the highest TF they can go on handheld? Never mind the price, just that it has to be the same size (no bezel this time).
MisterBrimstone
Member
This wouldn't work because Nintendo hasn't competed at the same level of power of Sony and Microsoft. It would need a huge gimmick like Wii had.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Absolutely yes. I want a 4Kish/60fps capable machine that can't be undocked. I'd easily pay $500 for it.
However, I dont care for it as much as previously since Cemu more or less scratches my Nintendo itch right now.
However, I dont care for it as much as previously since Cemu more or less scratches my Nintendo itch right now.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If you think that there aren't plenty of people who wouldn't jump on a more powerful Nintendo console, then you are sadly mistaken. Obviously it wouldn't sell as much as the current Switch, but there is a market. Although, Nintendo would probably have to sell it at $500 to make it worth it.
Honestly, not really. The kind of games I play on the switch are not the kind that typically come from the more 'powerful systems'. Not really interested in GTA variants or first person shooters.
Also, how about Nintendo make the classics purchaseable on the Switch again?
Also, how about Nintendo make the classics purchaseable on the Switch again?
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SometimeLaterToday
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With blackjack! And hookers!
Since I use it exclusively as a portable system, the biggest thing I'm disappointed in is how cheap those joycons feel and are, considering all the issues they have. Progress is always good.
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radewagon
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I wonder if it would be possible to forego an actual hardware upgrade by releasing, like, some sort of upgrade accessory pack. It could come with Joycons that don't drift and a dock that adds extra functionality to the Switch beyond just extra electrical power w/HDMI output. I'm thinking something like what Razer did a while back by offering external graphics card support to some of its laptops. They could probably even get away with just adding some sort external anti-aliasing solution (like the mClassic but with an algorithm specifically tuned to the Switch's library of games) right into the dock itself. Bonus points if they can get their external anit-aliasing solution to scale up the image to 4K.
Not an upgrade, but a new product.
Nintendo should shorten Switch lifespan and release a Switch 2 closer to PS5 and XSX specs as soon as possible, to reduce the gap and have the best third party support possible.
It's not the first time Nintendo put out of market a successful product, see GBA.
Nintendo should shorten Switch lifespan and release a Switch 2 closer to PS5 and XSX specs as soon as possible, to reduce the gap and have the best third party support possible.
It's not the first time Nintendo put out of market a successful product, see GBA.
93xfan
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very true. Hope the next system can at least output at 4K (I don’t expect native) so sub 1080p games arent scaled twice to on a 4K tv. It’d also be awesome if it supports VRR.
diffusionx
Gold Member
We all know the Switch is struggling to keep up. However, to the best of my knowledge there is no upgrade path for Switch 2 now, Nvidia's latest Tegra chips are more for ML and automation.
Well, the most powerful GPU on the market today, that costs $1200, and is more powerful than either next-gen console, can't do 4K/60fps at ultra on new games, so I'm not sure $500 is going to cut it.
Well, the most powerful GPU on the market today, that costs $1200, and is more powerful than either next-gen console, can't do 4K/60fps at ultra on new games, so I'm not sure $500 is going to cut it.
NeoIkaruGAF
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Enough said.
JareBear: Remastered
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I have been begging for a Switch Pro model for awhile. It would be nice for some of these big exclusives to run at higher resolutions, at the least.
gamerforever
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I wouldn’t mind a switch pro sold in limited numbers for £599. 1080p screen, 1440p docked. Boost mode to get all games’ resolutions increased by 100%.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Why does it ALWAYS have to be explained that you cannot compare power between consoles and PCs? There is no comparison. Games on consoles can get coded to the metal and that yields a lot of extra performance that you can't get on PC, where the GPU/CPU/memory have to compete with many other tasks to even run. How is this NOT common knowledge by now?
Consoles that are up and coming are expected to be able to run games at around 4K/60 -120 fps and the GPU in those, on paper, is not as powerful a 2080 Ti.
On top of that and here is perhaps the most important thing:
Switch games are designed to run on Switch hardware and therefore don't require anywhere remotely close to the level of processing power required to run them at 4K/60 that say something like Assassins Creed: Valhalla would.
A more powerful console is absolutely doable and heck a $400 non-handheld one could probably get games running at close to 4K/60 fps.
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NOLA_Gaffer
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No. The Switch and its software are selling phenomenally well.
Let it have its typical 5 to 7-year cycle and then replace the hardware. No need to make things complicated with half-step upgrades at this point.
The 3DS wasn't selling nearly as well as the Switch is now and the N3DS was an attempt to reinvigorate the 3DS market. It's not really necessary for the Switch.
Let it have its typical 5 to 7-year cycle and then replace the hardware. No need to make things complicated with half-step upgrades at this point.
The 3DS wasn't selling nearly as well as the Switch is now and the N3DS was an attempt to reinvigorate the 3DS market. It's not really necessary for the Switch.
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Fbh
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Pokemon Sword & Shield is an absolute graphical travesty. Animal Crossing New Horizons actually looks pretty damn nice.
If more games were as polished as Animal Crossing, I actually would be a lot more content with the Switch's power
AC definitely has the more polished and nicer look.
I'm just saying when your are selling like 17 million units of a game that looks like this:
You might not be so desperate for more power.
Rat Rage
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I don't give a fuck about specs anymore. As long as the games are good and fun, I'm fine? Luckily I'm not a 12 year old and can appreciate a lot of different kinds of graphics. Diminishing returns are real. To me, graphics look good across the board, or rather there are a lot of good looking games already available and also quite a few bad looking ones that - on the other hand - I feel are not limited by hardware, but rather by development skill.
That being said, I won't complain about better hardware, as long as devs know how to use it properly.
That being said, I won't complain about better hardware, as long as devs know how to use it properly.
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Jubenhimer
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A Switch Pro would be nice. Good as the Switch is, it still has its limits. A Pro model that can run games at higher resolutions and frame rates. Plus faster loading times for many games could be a welcome addition to the family. This is Nintendo we're talking about though, so obviously more power alone won't be the shtick.
MisterBrimstone
Member
That's not at all what I was saying. I'm saying Nintendo does not do that anymore. They went the gimmick angle.
MAtgS
Member
& then no one would have reason to buy it. Switch sold because it is a hybrid. Why do some people not get that?
EightBit Man
Member
But the Switch Lite already broke that concept. So, why not give people three options: hybrid, handheld, and console version?
Vawn
Banned
You can't judge a Nintendo product's value by price drops. The Wii U never got one.
carlosrox
Banned
I mean true, but that was a completely different situation.
samporter
Banned
I don't think upgrading the Nintendo Switch hardware to have more performance is a good move for Nintendo or its consumers. The userbase would be split and an extra version of the system will send a confusing message to current and potential buyers. Games would need to be designed for portable, dock, and extra performance dock modes, which will certainly not make the system easier to understand.
Nintendo's strength lies in its first party IP's, not graphical capabilities. They are capable of creating beautiful and stylish looking games without needing the latest technology. At this point, releasing a more powerful version will not help it appeal to people who are on the fence about buying since almost all of the best games were already released. Most of Nintendo's first party IPs can be pretty well created with the current switch hardware. The best move for Nintendo is just ride the Switch into the next-gen cycle, and then release a completely new system midway into the cycle.
Nintendo's strength lies in its first party IP's, not graphical capabilities. They are capable of creating beautiful and stylish looking games without needing the latest technology. At this point, releasing a more powerful version will not help it appeal to people who are on the fence about buying since almost all of the best games were already released. Most of Nintendo's first party IPs can be pretty well created with the current switch hardware. The best move for Nintendo is just ride the Switch into the next-gen cycle, and then release a completely new system midway into the cycle.
Quantum253
Member
With all Nintendo's past hardware reiterations, I'd be interested in seeing where they're going with the Switch. I've been holding off on picking one up because of this. I waited for the DS lite before jumping in and ended up loving that handheld. Of course, the Wii and WiiU didn't have very many hardware variations so the Switch might follow suite. The handheld side had (DS Lite, DSi, XL, 3DS, 2DS, etc.). It'll be interesting now the Switch pretty much takes the market share for handhelds. I've looked at the Switch Lite and not sure if $100 difference is worth losing TV functionality. I'd be down replacing my handhelds with a Switch, but keep holding out............Of course if Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 HD remake comes out, I might have to jump in.
Chittagong
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Nintendo’s knack for choosing the dead end architectures with no evolution path is almost uncanny. Silicon Graphics, PowerPC, PICA 200, Tegra.
The most incredible thing is that this seemingly prophetic ability to pick doomed architectures long predated their lust of ‘withered technology’, it also applied for the most cutting edge tech they picked.
So I would say that the biggest obstacle for a follow up for Switch is finding a tecnhology that is even more dead end than Tegra is.
The most incredible thing is that this seemingly prophetic ability to pick doomed architectures long predated their lust of ‘withered technology’, it also applied for the most cutting edge tech they picked.
So I would say that the biggest obstacle for a follow up for Switch is finding a tecnhology that is even more dead end than Tegra is.
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alucard0712_rus
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Switch needs "Performance mode" setting already, at least for newer revisions.
It's not a question of "abstract" power - its about hitting native resolution most of the time.
It's not a question of "abstract" power - its about hitting native resolution most of the time.